============================================================== Guild: Direct Messages Channel: Group / brazil ============================================================== [10-Dec-20 02:33 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright y'all, we have 5 days to warn Lister about/expose Lister's port for being open source-infrighting, since Polyzium won't be avaiable for a long time after those 5 days. [10-Dec-20 02:35 PM] Frax314#7488 Added a recipient. [10-Dec-20 02:36 PM] polyzium#0481 It is most likely that he's been bullshitting about the "emulation" thing (to avoid licensing issues) [10-Dec-20 02:37 PM] polyzium#0481 And he's frankensteining GZ and Zandronum together [10-Dec-20 02:39 PM] Frax314#7488 Added a recipient. [10-Dec-20 02:41 PM] Frax314#7488 So lemme present everyone to everyone: Kensuke21, a good guy who I know we can trust, Romero's B!tch who is an outsider from anything Complex Doom we can trust, and iSpook, developer of Project Complexity and thus more or less directly involved in this bullshit saga [10-Dec-20 02:41 PM] Frax314#7488 Plus Polyzium and his friend Ristovski [10-Dec-20 02:42 PM] polyzium#0481 Ristovski, a buddy of mine who's into reverse engineering, which is the ultimate strike to Lister [10-Dec-20 02:42 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Evening gents [10-Dec-20 02:43 PM] Frax314#7488 If Lister doesn't lay to evidence that his port is not legit to sell, we'll get Ristovski's help [10-Dec-20 02:44 PM] Frax314#7488 But our first course of action rn is in the first message [10-Dec-20 02:44 PM] polyzium#0481 **Use/create your alt accounts** [10-Dec-20 02:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Well only polyzium really needs one for now. Maybe me too but I already do have a few [10-Dec-20 02:58 PM] Ristovski#2694 What sort of emulation though? [10-Dec-20 02:58 PM] Frax314#7488 He claims he rewrote Doom from scratch while still making it compatible [10-Dec-20 02:58 PM] polyzium#0481 He refuses to discuss this further [10-Dec-20 03:00 PM] Frax314#7488 You can smell the bs from a mile 'way [10-Dec-20 03:02 PM] Ristovski#2694 Yeah, that would be way too much work imo. Does anyone know how proficient he is in actual development? I mean I guess he could rewrite parts/obfuscate the code _enough_ to make it look like it's not the original one, but I doubt that as well [10-Dec-20 03:03 PM] Frax314#7488 We have no direct knowledge of *programming* expertise, but he is an impressive modder in Zandronum's limitations and forked Zandronum to fix some desyncs in it [10-Dec-20 03:03 PM] Ristovski#2694 Mhm, I see. [10-Dec-20 03:05 PM] Frax314#7488 We're pretty much in the dark regarding how much he's lying and how much he's telling the truth regarding his port [10-Dec-20 03:08 PM] Frax314#7488 But I can assure you all it's real and very much an advancement over GZDoom and Zandronum regardless of mini-features [10-Dec-20 03:09 PM] Ristovski#2694 Guess we will find out once it gets released [10-Dec-20 03:10 PM] Frax314#7488 If it gets released. [10-Dec-20 03:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Since right now we're gonna try stopping its development in the first place [10-Dec-20 03:11 PM] Frax314#7488 But knowing Li$ter, it's a coin flip [10-Dec-20 03:11 PM] Ristovski#2694 Yeah, hopefully it doesn't see the light of day lol [10-Dec-20 03:18 PM] Frax314#7488 Best case scenario of this measure is him choosing to release it for free and just for the fame of it however [10-Dec-20 03:18 PM] Frax314#7488 But that won't happen, considering the man's pettiness [11-Dec-20 01:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Look at this boastful asshole, this is who we're trying to topple {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/786909226991616010/20201211_115318.jpg [11-Dec-20 02:24 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 uh... [11-Dec-20 02:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Ugly shit ikr [11-Dec-20 02:24 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 If that's the case, then why not just leave him do his shit and then wait for others to ruin him for life? [11-Dec-20 02:25 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Because there's a good chance no one else that could do it, will. [11-Dec-20 02:25 PM] Frax314#7488 Because stuff will go exactly as planned by him, imo [11-Dec-20 02:26 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Honestly, anyone who uses Butthead in their profile pic are throwing up immediate red flags [11-Dec-20 02:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Even if the Doom community will boycott Listeronum, there will still be the sheer fact of its existance and pricing [11-Dec-20 02:28 PM] Frax314#7488 So it must be either stopped, leaked, or forced to be free and open source [11-Dec-20 02:28 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Mark's method for his game is good though [11-Dec-20 02:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Pirate Bay release yeah [11-Dec-20 02:29 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Steam and Pirate Bay [11-Dec-20 02:29 PM] Frax314#7488 Super Meat Boy style [11-Dec-20 02:31 PM] Frax314#7488 But the problem is [11-Dec-20 02:31 PM] Frax314#7488 This isn't a full game [11-Dec-20 02:31 PM] Frax314#7488 It's a source port [11-Dec-20 02:31 PM] Frax314#7488 You make a patreon for this shit at most [11-Dec-20 02:33 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 if you mean for the thing we try to stop, yes But in Mark's case, don't think so [11-Dec-20 02:33 PM] Frax314#7488 Yes I mean for Listeronum [11-Dec-20 02:33 PM] iSpookulon#6763 That and a good majority of the code he's using isn't his, which makes what he's doing quite illegal. You COULD probably send Bethesda a letter about what's going on when its released, because they own Zenimax, who owns ID. [11-Dec-20 02:33 PM] Frax314#7488 Yes, it likely breaks open source rules [11-Dec-20 02:34 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Well that and he's trying to sell something based on their code, which is a huge no-no. [11-Dec-20 02:34 PM] Frax314#7488 Also... there is another thing I must inform y'all of. Hold on a second. [11-Dec-20 02:34 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Other way around. Bethesda and Id are both subsidiaries of Zenimax [11-Dec-20 02:35 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Which itself is now owned by Microsoft [11-Dec-20 02:35 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Oh. [11-Dec-20 02:35 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 just report him to id and Beth and shit's done lmao [11-Dec-20 02:35 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Well close enough. [11-Dec-20 02:36 PM] Frax314#7488 ```It will be... Besides i am thinking about making Li$TeRonum official port``` ```I called to Microsoft not many days ago,which are owners of Zebimax,which are owners of Bethesda``` [11-Dec-20 02:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Be afraid. [11-Dec-20 02:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Be very afraid. [11-Dec-20 02:36 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Zebimax [11-Dec-20 02:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, Zenimax can't do shit about this [11-Dec-20 02:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Listeronum is effectively inattackable copyright-wise [11-Dec-20 02:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Only open source can save us [11-Dec-20 02:37 PM] iSpookulon#6763 🤔 I... am doubtful [11-Dec-20 02:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Emulators and ports can be sold [11-Dec-20 02:37 PM] Frax314#7488 See Delta Touch [11-Dec-20 02:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Quad Touch [11-Dec-20 02:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Etc [11-Dec-20 02:37 PM] Frax314#7488 3dSenVR for a non-mobile example... [11-Dec-20 02:40 PM] Frax314#7488 We are fucked unless Polyzium finds a correct caveat aganist it [11-Dec-20 02:43 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Also his sub goals are also troublesome because depending on what mod the perosn is playing, he's charging money for things with stuff in them that doesn't belong to him (example: if someone is playing ZDW) [11-Dec-20 02:44 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Aye [11-Dec-20 02:44 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 It's some twisted form of reverse price-gouging [11-Dec-20 02:45 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Yep. [11-Dec-20 02:45 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Increasing competitor prices to drive consumers towards your own cheaper product [11-Dec-20 02:46 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 There's probably an actual title for this, though "reverse-price gouging" is the closest I could come up with [11-Dec-20 02:48 PM] Frax314#7488 See here is the thing [11-Dec-20 02:48 PM] Frax314#7488 There are three lists [11-Dec-20 02:48 PM] Frax314#7488 A whitelist, the mods you can play normally without sub [11-Dec-20 02:49 PM] Frax314#7488 All other wads that require a single sub, therefore it only being unlocking a feature [11-Dec-20 02:49 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 tell Graf about this and watch Hell unleashed [11-Dec-20 02:50 PM] Frax314#7488 And a blacklist, and each mod of the blacklist has to be bought with a ridiculous sub (CF, PC etc.) [11-Dec-20 02:50 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Oh so PC's on that lst already. 🤔 [11-Dec-20 02:50 PM] Frax314#7488 And he will definitely take THOSE subs down if asked to... [11-Dec-20 02:50 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Ask him how he's gonna track the mod stuff. [11-Dec-20 02:51 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I'd be fully willing to try and subvert that shit. [11-Dec-20 02:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Content-based [11-Dec-20 02:53 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Will he answer _what_ content specifically. [11-Dec-20 03:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Probably not, he'd just say it's a "surprise". [11-Dec-20 03:37 PM] Frax314#7488 But I can make an educated guess that it'll check for specific actor names, GLDefs, MAPINFO, and if it find 2 or more instances of "suspect" stuff it will trigger [11-Dec-20 03:37 PM] Frax314#7488 And filenames as first recursion, likely [11-Dec-20 03:41 PM] Frax314#7488 I doubt he will fuck up *this* one thing [11-Dec-20 03:41 PM] Frax314#7488 We are not telling Graf, ever [11-Dec-20 03:41 PM] Frax314#7488 For any reason [11-Dec-20 03:42 PM] Frax314#7488 It would be some mass hysteria fuel [11-Dec-20 03:45 PM] Frax314#7488 If Polyzium gets Listeronum to be open source, everything will play out as it should and Lister may eventually get canceled and the port forked by less... emotional people [11-Dec-20 07:15 PM] Ristovski#2694 lmao, what an asshole [11-Dec-20 07:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Yep. [12-Dec-20 08:19 PM] polyzium#0481 Hi guys [12-Dec-20 08:19 PM] polyzium#0481 Im in the miliyary [12-Dec-20 08:19 PM] polyzium#0481 Military [12-Dec-20 08:20 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Welp. [12-Dec-20 08:20 PM] polyzium#0481 Smartphones have been confiscated from us [12-Dec-20 08:20 PM] polyzium#0481 I found a guywith one [12-Dec-20 08:20 PM] polyzium#0481 Im alive and doing well [12-Dec-20 08:20 PM] polyzium#0481 Let people know [12-Dec-20 09:06 PM] Frax314#7488 Damn, I'm sorry for you polyzium [12-Dec-20 09:06 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Indeed. [12-Dec-20 09:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Guess we have no current options regarding the thing until it releases, either. [12-Dec-20 09:57 PM] Frax314#7488 Welp time to endure those meanasses again [13-Dec-20 01:21 AM] Frax314#7488 Fuck this [13-Dec-20 01:21 AM] Frax314#7488 I'm telling Li$ter how stuff is right now [13-Dec-20 01:21 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 Wut? [13-Dec-20 01:22 AM] Frax314#7488 That he can't sell the port [13-Dec-20 01:22 AM] Frax314#7488 By GPL 2 license [13-Dec-20 01:28 AM] Frax314#7488 I don't think I will be able to *convince* him [13-Dec-20 01:28 AM] Frax314#7488 But this sword of Damocles will be heavy on him [13-Dec-20 01:28 AM] Frax314#7488 And we may strike later if he refuses this truth [13-Dec-20 12:42 PM] Frax314#7488 Of course, asshole thinks he won't be affected by it [13-Dec-20 12:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Ace Attorney Li$ter breakdown #1 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/787616518434455552/20201213_104523.jpg [13-Dec-20 12:47 PM] iSpookulon#6763 https://tenor.com/view/emoji-thinking-gif-8387963 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/emoji-thinking-gif-8387963 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/lneGVS-SsrRJAQbRDOO69f3Bpxy85KIS1cOYmhh0m8w/https/media.tenor.co/images/e64768b176067f2efad83c2922df5d02/tenor.png [13-Dec-20 12:48 PM] Frax314#7488 ZDF has us covered [13-Dec-20 12:48 PM] Frax314#7488 They will figure it out in a sec [13-Dec-20 12:49 PM] Frax314#7488 And they will strike it somehow [13-Dec-20 12:50 PM] Frax314#7488 We made some progress because now he cannot say "I did not know" [13-Dec-20 12:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Nice and tasty **compromising evidence**™️ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/787617620887207966/20201213_105046.jpg [13-Dec-20 12:52 PM] iSpookulon#6763 https://tenor.com/view/think-emoji-thonk-meme-gif-11987871 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/think-emoji-thonk-meme-gif-11987871 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/sk0F4zUluEjMhZt3BxtjlBtbCAyndJ3_eUbnbdE6Zwk/https/media.tenor.co/images/6a08d386a15f57a351391843eed16e0f/tenor.png [13-Dec-20 12:52 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Yeah that's all I got [13-Dec-20 12:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Is it that hard to understand? [13-Dec-20 12:52 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Aside from: Contact Zenimax, contact Graf, contact Mifu, give them all notices and give them copies. [13-Dec-20 12:53 PM] iSpookulon#6763 No, it's just what else is there to say? Lister's being a _fucking moron_ Right now. [13-Dec-20 12:54 PM] Frax314#7488 1. Zenimax can't do shit. Listeronum does not infright *copyright, only open source.* 2. WE ARE NOT CONTACTING GRAF. IT COULD SPELL DISASTER. 3. Inviting Mifu here could help, but... later I guess. 4. It has DRM. We just can't give copies to anyone except Ristovski. 5. Yep, Lister is being a fucking moron right now. [13-Dec-20 12:55 PM] Frax314#7488 I love how Lister could have the whole Doom world in his hands but his pettiness and hubris will fell him. [13-Dec-20 12:55 PM] iSpookulon#6763 YOU KINDA HAVE TO CONTACT GRAF, IF HE'S USING GZDOOM CODE IT'S KIND OF GRAF'S SHIT HE'S YOINKIN' [13-Dec-20 12:56 PM] Frax314#7488 If we told Graf, he'd go and tell ZDF *it's an hoax and a scam,* which it isn't. [13-Dec-20 12:57 PM] iSpookulon#6763 🤔 I mean fair. [13-Dec-20 12:57 PM] Frax314#7488 He is too much of a chicken. A public post in ZDF detailing everything would be much better. [13-Dec-20 12:57 PM] Frax314#7488 But that's to be if *Lister ostracizes me in any way.* [13-Dec-20 12:57 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Hm. [13-Dec-20 12:57 PM] Frax314#7488 Or if we realize it's the best course of action [13-Dec-20 01:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, iSpook, in the latter case [13-Dec-20 01:09 PM] Frax314#7488 I obviously can't write it myself [13-Dec-20 01:09 PM] Frax314#7488 I've seen Li$ter is damn good at identifying written stuff [13-Dec-20 01:09 PM] Frax314#7488 And I don't wanna risk for sure [13-Dec-20 01:20 PM] Frax314#7488 We'll have to think about this [13-Dec-20 01:20 PM] Frax314#7488 I surely do not want to send *you* for obvious reasons [15-Dec-20 03:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Added a recipient. [15-Dec-20 03:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Added a recipient. [15-Dec-20 03:08 PM] Fluffy#5319 Sup [15-Dec-20 03:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Following a notice from polyzium in HM's Discord server, I gotta add those two :P [15-Dec-20 03:09 PM] shotfan#6872 Hello. [15-Dec-20 03:09 PM] shotfan#6872 I see some people from Project Brutality server. [15-Dec-20 03:10 PM] Frax314#7488 I got Kensuke on board cuz I trust him [15-Dec-20 03:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Added a recipient. [15-Dec-20 03:10 PM] Raov#2531 a [15-Dec-20 03:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Also the informer himself [15-Dec-20 03:10 PM] Ristovski#2694 Oh its Raov, hi [15-Dec-20 03:10 PM] Raov#2531 the only guy who got contact to poly btw [15-Dec-20 03:10 PM] Raov#2531 he in da army [15-Dec-20 03:10 PM] Raov#2531 and hi ristovski [15-Dec-20 03:11 PM] Frax314#7488 Polyzium left us a note and in HM Discord too, but he didn't mention Li$ter at all then [15-Dec-20 03:11 PM] Frax314#7488 So yeah new ones read the message history if you will [15-Dec-20 03:12 PM] Frax314#7488 For details™️ [15-Dec-20 03:14 PM] iSpookulon#6763 🤔 [15-Dec-20 03:14 PM] Raov#2531 okay did a quick readup [15-Dec-20 03:14 PM] Raov#2531 are there any binaries of the port? [15-Dec-20 03:15 PM] Raov#2531 might be able to decompile and try comparing with open source code [15-Dec-20 03:15 PM] Frax314#7488 No [15-Dec-20 03:15 PM] Frax314#7488 It is still not released [15-Dec-20 03:15 PM] Frax314#7488 Early 2021 is the planned release period [15-Dec-20 03:16 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 just say something on twitter and he'll get cancelled [15-Dec-20 03:16 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 that's how things work right? [15-Dec-20 03:16 PM] Raov#2531 not in foss world [15-Dec-20 03:16 PM] Raov#2531 basically nobody is gonna pick it up i bet [15-Dec-20 03:17 PM] Raov#2531 unless by some miracle elon or someone huge in that area picks it up [15-Dec-20 03:17 PM] Frax314#7488 If that worked [15-Dec-20 03:17 PM] Frax314#7488 No one would be playing Brutal Doom in 2020 :P [15-Dec-20 03:17 PM] Raov#2531 exactly [15-Dec-20 03:18 PM] Frax314#7488 Canceling is a messier process than it seems [15-Dec-20 03:18 PM] Raov#2531 we got a very small userbase to be even half worth it [15-Dec-20 03:18 PM] Frax314#7488 Especially in a weirdly-shaped community like Doom's [15-Dec-20 03:18 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 tell Putin about his plan No one can do anything without the President's permission [15-Dec-20 03:18 PM] Frax314#7488 Kekw [15-Dec-20 03:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Also [15-Dec-20 03:20 PM] Frax314#7488 We, like, BARELY managed to avoid detection in HM Discord. Li$ter has a drone account in it, which is also shared by others of his [15-Dec-20 03:21 PM] Frax314#7488 It's basically a real spy organization [15-Dec-20 03:21 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 did you mention about the whole thing? [15-Dec-20 03:21 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 just don't talk [15-Dec-20 03:21 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 talk about HM stuff [15-Dec-20 03:21 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 or memes [15-Dec-20 03:21 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 or how HUGO FUCKED UP ETERNAL FFS [15-Dec-20 03:21 PM] Frax314#7488 We wiped out the talk [15-Dec-20 03:22 PM] shotfan#6872 It was up for 15 minutes or so [15-Dec-20 03:22 PM] shotfan#6872 ``HUGO FUCKED UP ETERNAL FFS`` ??? [15-Dec-20 03:22 PM] Frax314#7488 But it was pretty damn... explicit, if you get what I mean, HM Discord is usually a neutral zone so to speak [15-Dec-20 03:22 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 some levels have monster replacements [15-Dec-20 03:22 PM] Raov#2531 might be enough if he has a logger and was online on that acc [15-Dec-20 03:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Bit of a far away joke Kensuke [15-Dec-20 03:23 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 tho this about spies and everything [15-Dec-20 03:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, I could've not been online at this time [15-Dec-20 03:23 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 sounds like it's from some spy movie or even a mafia movie [15-Dec-20 03:23 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 or irl mafia stuff [15-Dec-20 03:23 PM] shotfan#6872 ``have monster replacements`` Did he fuck up the Prowler perchance? [15-Dec-20 03:24 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 The Holt's Slayer gate starts with 3 archviles now [15-Dec-20 03:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Which means... welp, it would've at least gone on Lister's cringe compilation/metaphorical hitlist [15-Dec-20 03:24 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 and a possessed marauder [15-Dec-20 03:24 PM] shotfan#6872 @KENSUKE21 I believe that everyone in Russia has ties to mafia [15-Dec-20 03:24 PM] Raov#2531 false [15-Dec-20 03:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Kek Mafioso Polyzium [15-Dec-20 03:24 PM] Raov#2531 i dont [15-Dec-20 03:24 PM] shotfan#6872 kek [15-Dec-20 03:24 PM] Raov#2531 w [15-Dec-20 03:25 PM] shotfan#6872 ``Lister's cringe compilation/metaphorical hitlist`` I am sooooo scared [15-Dec-20 03:25 PM] Frax314#7488 Honestly the LSD community is a bit of a mafia [15-Dec-20 03:25 PM] Frax314#7488 In a small sense [15-Dec-20 03:25 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 ask Lister if he likes Russian Lolita If he says yes, run Run very fast [15-Dec-20 03:25 PM] shotfan#6872 He can rage at me in Cyrillic for all I care... I do not know Russian anyway 😄 [15-Dec-20 03:25 PM] Raov#2531 i do [15-Dec-20 03:26 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 tmw I know Russian [15-Dec-20 03:26 PM] Raov#2531 and i can fight back [15-Dec-20 03:26 PM] Raov#2531 лол удачи [15-Dec-20 03:26 PM] shotfan#6872 I meant Lister of course lol [15-Dec-20 03:26 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 tho I can read only [15-Dec-20 03:26 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 I have long forgotten how 2 speak and write [15-Dec-20 03:26 PM] Frax314#7488 Those who appear there are forbidden to buy his port, and he'd have questioned me since I always billed HM Discord as a place far away from the CD drama [15-Dec-20 03:27 PM] shotfan#6872 I can try to figure out something by hearing, but written Russian is in that alien script and we are using text communication around here, so [15-Dec-20 03:27 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Polish are chad slavs [15-Dec-20 03:27 PM] Raov#2531 serbia [15-Dec-20 03:27 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 stronk [15-Dec-20 03:27 PM] iSpookulon#6763 ~~Remove kebab.~~ [15-Dec-20 03:27 PM] shotfan#6872 When we are not busy drinking ourselves to death, yes [15-Dec-20 03:27 PM] shotfan#6872 lmao [15-Dec-20 03:28 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~This thread got alt-right fast~~ [15-Dec-20 03:28 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 ***Eat kebab*** [15-Dec-20 03:28 PM] iSpookulon#6763 ~~Nah. I'm not alt-right. I just meme.~~ [15-Dec-20 03:28 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~IT WAS A PRANK BRO~~ [15-Dec-20 03:28 PM] Raov#2531 eat shawarma [15-Dec-20 03:28 PM] Raov#2531 actually good [15-Dec-20 03:28 PM] shotfan#6872 seaworms? [15-Dec-20 03:28 PM] Raov#2531 nah [15-Dec-20 03:28 PM] Raov#2531 meat with some vegetables and sauce rolled up in pita [15-Dec-20 03:29 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Also [15-Dec-20 03:29 PM] Frax314#7488 Honestly only thing we have to fear is that anyone of Lister's gets to know there even is an effort aganist the port, even if we fail entirely it would just be destiny at that point [15-Dec-20 03:29 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Oh look, time for me to try and hop onto this list. :V [15-Dec-20 03:29 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 so we just try not to get caught [15-Dec-20 03:29 PM] Raov#2531 metaphorical hitlist [15-Dec-20 03:29 PM] Raov#2531 i cant [15-Dec-20 03:29 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [15-Dec-20 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 5 posts in a row have your quotes [15-Dec-20 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Kek [15-Dec-20 03:30 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 can't you report his Server for some shady shit? [15-Dec-20 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Nope [15-Dec-20 03:30 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 or that won't solve anything? [15-Dec-20 03:30 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 damn [15-Dec-20 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean [15-Dec-20 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 I did [15-Dec-20 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 I did report them to Discord [15-Dec-20 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 But... nothin'. [15-Dec-20 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 I described it in detail [15-Dec-20 03:31 PM] Frax314#7488 The situation, the people [15-Dec-20 03:31 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Uploading LSD sourceport whilst high on LSD on LSD website for LSD fans to pay for LSD [15-Dec-20 03:31 PM] Raov#2531 lsdception [15-Dec-20 03:31 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 tell them they have children [15-Dec-20 03:31 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Hey Frax-Bax. [15-Dec-20 03:31 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Question. [15-Dec-20 03:31 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Since you're a spy and close to L1st3r the S1st3r-F1st3r: [15-Dec-20 03:32 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [15-Dec-20 03:32 PM] Frax314#7488 Yea? [15-Dec-20 03:32 PM] iSpookulon#6763 A while ago a group decided to fuck with both Nash's and Admiral's discords. With Nash's they spammed racist shit and gore pictures. Was LSF involved with this? [15-Dec-20 03:33 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 the maker of Nashgore? [15-Dec-20 03:33 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Yeah [15-Dec-20 03:33 PM] Frax314#7488 I see no reason they would even know Nash [15-Dec-20 03:33 PM] iSpookulon#6763 A group hit that discord [15-Dec-20 03:33 PM] Frax314#7488 Since they don't hang around ZDF [15-Dec-20 03:33 PM] iSpookulon#6763 It didn't really bother me... except one picture [15-Dec-20 03:33 PM] Frax314#7488 They do have a beef aganist Admeral though [15-Dec-20 03:33 PM] iSpookulon#6763 One picture of some guy without a face, which made me feel like that it was ACTUALLY cursed. [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 do you have the photo in question? [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] Raov#2531 oh jesus [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] iSpookulon#6763 No [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] Frax314#7488 d o n t [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 fuck [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] Fluffy#5319 That happened in the thinker station as well [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 wanted to see it [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] Frax314#7488 Y THO [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I wouldn't save it because _it actually made me feel uncomfortable_ [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 was it CGI face? [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] Fluffy#5319 And saw that exact same face lol [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] Fluffy#5319 Then lost my goddam appetite [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] iSpookulon#6763 It made ME, someone who spent their childhood and teen years looking at images of real gore, uncomfortable. [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] shotfan#6872 Slenderman? [15-Dec-20 03:34 PM] iSpookulon#6763 No [15-Dec-20 03:35 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 oh OH Was it the guy that lost his face cause of mold? [15-Dec-20 03:35 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 cause he lost his face cause of it [15-Dec-20 03:35 PM] iSpookulon#6763 It was an image of a REAL human face, it looked like it was removed via injury. [15-Dec-20 03:35 PM] Frax314#7488 Tell me, were the attacks on Admeral and Nash synced? [15-Dec-20 03:35 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 either he or someone else [15-Dec-20 03:35 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Yes, yes it was. [15-Dec-20 03:35 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 bruh [15-Dec-20 03:35 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Look. It was the early days of the net, I didn't know any better. [15-Dec-20 03:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Regardless [15-Dec-20 03:36 PM] Fluffy#5319 Btw, anyone know who kev#7284 is? [15-Dec-20 03:36 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I do not. [15-Dec-20 03:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Lister at least claims to be as in the dark as us regarding the various raids [15-Dec-20 03:36 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 synced attacks however is sus [15-Dec-20 03:36 PM] Raov#2531 can confirm [15-Dec-20 03:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Because his goons do it [15-Dec-20 03:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Not him [15-Dec-20 03:37 PM] shotfan#6872 it was drones bro [15-Dec-20 03:37 PM] Fluffy#5319 There's still a chance it could be some other group [15-Dec-20 03:37 PM] shotfan#6872 I am a paragon of peace [15-Dec-20 03:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Again I don't know about Admeral's but Nash? Makes no sense [15-Dec-20 03:37 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Yeah IDK I was just curious. [15-Dec-20 03:37 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister is rather active in the Brutal Doom Schism channel. [15-Dec-20 03:37 PM] Fluffy#5319 But it's odd that the Tinker Station got hit first with those images, then Nash and Admeral later [15-Dec-20 03:38 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 blyat [15-Dec-20 03:38 PM] shotfan#6872 I cannot read the shit he writes in Cryillic, you can go there and monitor if you are inclined for that. [15-Dec-20 03:38 PM] Fluffy#5319 Tinker Station is the server for Lexicon, Afina and Invuled [15-Dec-20 03:38 PM] Frax314#7488 It'd be odd if he lied to me after other stuff he gave me [15-Dec-20 03:38 PM] Raov#2531 *literally learning all the shit that has happened through yall, im barely even involved in doom* [15-Dec-20 03:38 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 imagine Lister losing this war And it happens during winter [15-Dec-20 03:38 PM] Raov#2531 you can send me whatever he writes i can translate [15-Dec-20 03:38 PM] Frax314#7488 It's just him gloating about how he has the moral high ground on Clusterfuck and yada yada [15-Dec-20 03:38 PM] Frax314#7488 Irony [15-Dec-20 03:39 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Russia defeated during winter [15-Dec-20 03:39 PM] shotfan#6872 Seems about the same as the English posts he makes there. [15-Dec-20 03:39 PM] Raov#2531 russian defeating a russian [15-Dec-20 03:39 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Mafia rebels with a dream defeat a Blyatman that wants to abuse source ports [15-Dec-20 03:39 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I remember being in both Schism and Ali's hub. [15-Dec-20 03:39 PM] shotfan#6872 He was also butthurt when somebody mentioned community drama in the description of Complex Doom on TV Tropes. [15-Dec-20 03:40 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Then I saw L1st3r in both. [15-Dec-20 03:40 PM] shotfan#6872 He literally posted on the server and demanded an answer to who did the edit. [15-Dec-20 03:40 PM] shotfan#6872 Nobody answered because, who the fuck even cares? [15-Dec-20 03:40 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I'm just happy Complexity was on the article. [15-Dec-20 03:40 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 was the edit funny? [15-Dec-20 03:40 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 cause if it's a funny [15-Dec-20 03:40 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 it's a funni [15-Dec-20 03:40 PM] shotfan#6872 Straight-faced. [15-Dec-20 03:41 PM] shotfan#6872 But funny in context, yes. XD [15-Dec-20 03:41 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 he got anger cause of a funni [15-Dec-20 03:41 PM] iSpookulon#6763 L1st3r is just mad because no one will play LSD because of it's stigma. [15-Dec-20 03:42 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 in order to win we must embrace обезьяну [15-Dec-20 03:42 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 all I do is Smooth Doom or Chocolate Doom [15-Dec-20 03:42 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 got bored of mods [15-Dec-20 03:42 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah he is getting as many ModDBlets on his side as he can [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] iSpookulon#6763 🤔 As if that'll help. [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] Raov#2531 embrace обезьяну (embrace monke) reject модернизм (reject modernity) [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 да [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] Frax314#7488 And I mean of the type who when seeing Hunter's Moon ask for monster pack [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 we are monke [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, I gotta tell y'all a secret... [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] Raov#2531 ? [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Can you guys throw english translations in () after your Russian? IDFL google translating it. [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] Raov#2531 yep [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] Frax314#7488 I made the Complex Doom article. Just to piss Lister & Eagle off. [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 ok [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 да (yes) [15-Dec-20 03:43 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Thanks. [15-Dec-20 03:44 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 no worries [15-Dec-20 03:44 PM] Frax314#7488 Then I blatantly lied to Lister I didn't make it courtesy of my TV Tropes account being Dylan Dog themed [15-Dec-20 03:44 PM] Frax314#7488 Kek [15-Dec-20 03:44 PM] shotfan#6872 lmao [15-Dec-20 03:44 PM] shotfan#6872 I sensed something [15-Dec-20 03:44 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Giuda Ballerino !!!! Madlad [15-Dec-20 03:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Ha, who else would spend time and effort on a trope article on a Doom mod [15-Dec-20 03:45 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Marx [15-Dec-20 03:45 PM] Frax314#7488 I am gonna polish it later {Reactions} 🇵🇱 (3) [15-Dec-20 03:45 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Groucho Marx [15-Dec-20 03:46 PM] Frax314#7488 I made it simply because there is no written immortalization of Complex Doom anywhere else on the net [15-Dec-20 03:47 PM] Frax314#7488 That's why I made both a Main and Awesome page [15-Dec-20 03:47 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Awesome page? [15-Dec-20 03:47 PM] Frax314#7488 TV Tropes articles have more than one page [15-Dec-20 03:48 PM] Frax314#7488 And I also made one for the awesome moments [15-Dec-20 03:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Because Complex Doom wasn't all gloom, we had good times in it as well in the end... [15-Dec-20 03:48 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Link the awesome moments, please. [15-Dec-20 03:50 PM] Frax314#7488 https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Awesome/ComplexDoom More than a bit spartan and cringe rn, though. {Embed} https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Awesome/ComplexDoom Complex Doom / Awesome - TV Tropes A page for describing Awesome: Complex Doom. Killing your first Legendary, ever or in a single run, is a great feeling. Doubly so if you did it without … https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/D3KvwU5u3MOciU8oLqbB7SZvWBxPsyZqLuVQDg1hXds/https/static.tvtropes.org/logo_blue_small.png [15-Dec-20 03:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Will be better in the long run [15-Dec-20 03:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Honestly idk HOW Li$ter got to it, I doubt any of those gorillas read TV Tropes daily [15-Dec-20 03:52 PM] Frax314#7488 But as I had hoped he did [15-Dec-20 04:29 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Just wanted to mention something about that Awesome page [15-Dec-20 04:29 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Don't forget about TVT's policy on Zero-Context examples [15-Dec-20 04:29 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/ZeroContextExample?from=Administrivia.ZeroContextExamples {Embed} https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/ZeroContextExample?from=Administrivia.ZeroContextExamples Zero-Context Example / Administrivia - TV Tropes A Zero-Context Example is an example that fails to do the most important thing an example should do: explain how and why it fits the trope. All examples … https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/D3KvwU5u3MOciU8oLqbB7SZvWBxPsyZqLuVQDg1hXds/https/static.tvtropes.org/logo_blue_small.png [15-Dec-20 04:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Awesome moments count as examples? Admittedly I did not research much for them. [15-Dec-20 04:31 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 While this moreso applies to trope examples than entries on the YMMV subpages, its best if you can still provide context as to *why* something is awesome than just stating it is on its own. [15-Dec-20 04:31 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I.e. [15-Dec-20 04:31 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Saying "Killing your first Legendary, ever or in a single run, is a great feeling." is fine [15-Dec-20 04:31 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Though it'd read a lot nicer if you went into greater depth as to *why* its a great feeling [15-Dec-20 04:33 PM] Frax314#7488 I'll ask you when I'll be polishin' it up then [15-Dec-20 04:34 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Also, probably worth beefing up the header description on the main Complex Doom article, such as going a bit into the mod's history and providing an overview for the changes it applies to Doom [15-Dec-20 04:35 PM] iSpookulon#6763 ^ [15-Dec-20 04:54 PM] Frax314#7488 Definitely. [18-Dec-20 01:41 PM] Frax314#7488 Bad news [18-Dec-20 01:41 PM] Raov#2531 huh? [18-Dec-20 01:41 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Uh? [18-Dec-20 01:41 PM] iSpookulon#6763 What did you do. [18-Dec-20 01:42 PM] Frax314#7488 Me? Nothing. But Lister might try to start a hype campaign for his port shortly before its release, which is bad -- we cannot do anything in that moment. [18-Dec-20 01:42 PM] Ristovski#2694 Hmm [18-Dec-20 01:42 PM] Raov#2531 hm [18-Dec-20 01:42 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Well fuck. [18-Dec-20 01:42 PM] Raov#2531 how much time we got? [18-Dec-20 01:42 PM] Frax314#7488 You'll have to fasten your seatbelts, cuz it will be one hell of a ride if he gets into ModDB's front pages [18-Dec-20 01:42 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Well. You guys can't do anything. I can't really do anything anyways. [18-Dec-20 01:43 PM] Frax314#7488 Assume March for now, probably the safest to assume [18-Dec-20 01:44 PM] Raov#2531 relayed to poly [18-Dec-20 01:44 PM] Frax314#7488 The problem here is that many people will be seeing it in action before release, which means they might just buy [18-Dec-20 01:44 PM] Frax314#7488 And we'll have to act quicker and louder [18-Dec-20 01:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Which we will only be able to do after release [18-Dec-20 01:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Worse yet, ZDF may throw a collective fit [18-Dec-20 01:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Which means trouble, lots of trouble [18-Dec-20 01:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Worst case scenario they might not even accept a leaked port. [18-Dec-20 01:56 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 A leak of a port that one would otherwise need an exorbitant amount of money to use otherwise? Who on Earth would turn that down. [18-Dec-20 01:57 PM] Frax314#7488 Yknow, tainted by the sins of its fathers and whatnot. ZDF is immature enough :P [18-Dec-20 01:57 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean they will boycott any form of Listeronum [18-Dec-20 01:57 PM] Frax314#7488 Regardless of how it gets leaked forked etc [18-Dec-20 01:57 PM] iSpookulon#6763 ... [18-Dec-20 01:57 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I mean. [18-Dec-20 01:57 PM] Frax314#7488 Which is possible, but hey, just worst case scenario [18-Dec-20 01:58 PM] iSpookulon#6763 It's not immature to boycott shit involving a known doxxer and raider. [18-Dec-20 01:58 PM] Frax314#7488 But it is if said shit was turned for good. [18-Dec-20 01:58 PM] Frax314#7488 And mantained by more responsible fellows. [18-Dec-20 01:59 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I mean. Fair [18-Dec-20 01:59 PM] Frax314#7488 With that out of the way [18-Dec-20 02:00 PM] Frax314#7488 What's sure, at least from my POV is that Graf will someway obstruct or hate the leaked port's possible success at least to some extent [18-Dec-20 02:01 PM] Frax314#7488 I hope not at all, but I do have this feel [18-Dec-20 02:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Considering he's been the KOTH of Doom modding so far [18-Dec-20 02:07 PM] Frax314#7488 And this would come from absolutely nowhere [18-Dec-20 02:37 PM] Raov#2531 from poly: "fucking ridiculous.He treats his sourceport as a product" [18-Dec-20 02:38 PM] Frax314#7488 Yep. [18-Dec-20 04:10 PM] shotfan#6872 What is the problem with the promotional campaign? [18-Dec-20 04:10 PM] shotfan#6872 How does that change anything? [18-Dec-20 04:12 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 If anything, depending on whether he proudly advertises the price or not, it could potentially cause things to go pretty bad for him [18-Dec-20 04:13 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, that is what I would first. [18-Dec-20 04:13 PM] shotfan#6872 More noise for him actually means more trouble. [18-Dec-20 04:13 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Either he hides the price and people lambast him for springing the paywall from out of nowhere. [18-Dec-20 04:13 PM] shotfan#6872 Apparently he is *really* that dense to think he can get away with selling a sourceport. [18-Dec-20 04:14 PM] shotfan#6872 (*what I would think first) [18-Dec-20 04:14 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Or, he proudly flaunts the exorbitant prices without a hint of self awareness, prompting the following mass reaction from the community: [18-Dec-20 04:15 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 https://tenor.com/view/futurama-laugh-hahaha-gif-7303390 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/futurama-laugh-hahaha-gif-7303390 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/2P-47dwN4rI38IVdwoaaKal-RpZCbOvjbHO6v9INm5k/https/media.tenor.co/images/619cd67522c6c48e7a6352d12111103e/tenor.png [18-Dec-20 04:16 PM] shotfan#6872 Yup, I predict the second timeline 😄 [18-Dec-20 04:24 PM] Frax314#7488 You understimate the denseness of ModDB [18-Dec-20 04:27 PM] shotfan#6872 Then we need to bring a rock drill XD [18-Dec-20 04:30 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I mean, this is a paid source port that's doing some seriously underhanded tactics like price gouging [18-Dec-20 04:30 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 One can only be so dense until they have to be legally declared brain-dead [18-Dec-20 04:35 PM] shotfan#6872 By the way @HeisenDrive [18-Dec-20 04:35 PM] Frax314#7488 We'll see [18-Dec-20 04:35 PM] shotfan#6872 Is the PDA project for Project Brutality still in development? [18-Dec-20 04:45 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I believe so [18-Dec-20 04:47 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 You can still comment-edit it so long as you've got the link to it. [18-Dec-20 04:48 PM] shotfan#6872 I see, thanks for the news. [19-Dec-20 11:36 AM] Frax314#7488 BREAKING NEWS [19-Dec-20 11:36 AM] Frax314#7488 Anime Punk, one of Lister's, once raided the Secreta Lounge [19-Dec-20 11:38 AM] iSpookulon#6763 🤔 [19-Dec-20 11:38 AM] iSpookulon#6763 But why [19-Dec-20 11:38 AM] Frax314#7488 *Because Dusted is a member there.* [19-Dec-20 11:38 AM] Frax314#7488 Or so I suspect [19-Dec-20 11:38 AM] iSpookulon#6763 God [19-Dec-20 11:39 AM] Frax314#7488 Got the news from Bulalo in QCDE Discord, PMd him for details [19-Dec-20 11:39 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Does L1st3r not know that Dusted doesn't work on CF anymore? [19-Dec-20 11:39 AM] Frax314#7488 He is supremely petty [19-Dec-20 11:39 AM] Frax314#7488 As I said [19-Dec-20 11:40 AM] Frax314#7488 He will continue even after all is supposedly done and finished [19-Dec-20 11:41 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Wowie. [19-Dec-20 11:41 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Let me get something from Dusted [19-Dec-20 11:41 AM] Frax314#7488 And besides, Anime Punk is an actual member of his Discord [19-Dec-20 11:41 AM] Frax314#7488 And he may have acted on his own [19-Dec-20 11:41 AM] Frax314#7488 Considering they're such drones [19-Dec-20 11:46 AM] iSpookulon#6763 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789775556622680094/unknown.png [19-Dec-20 11:46 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Ah. [19-Dec-20 11:46 AM] Frax314#7488 Yes, I heard Dusted is walking off everything Complex for good. [19-Dec-20 11:46 AM] Frax314#7488 It's a one sided siege. [19-Dec-20 11:47 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Yep. [19-Dec-20 11:47 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Honestly he should focus his efforts more on me than dusted. [19-Dec-20 11:48 AM] Frax314#7488 Well, apart from open snark, you haven't slighted him nearly as much [19-Dec-20 11:48 AM] Frax314#7488 From his POV [19-Dec-20 11:49 AM] Frax314#7488 Also, this new fact sheds light a little on a detail: his drones might effectively go out of their way to raid servers [19-Dec-20 11:49 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Whenever I get the sprites for the new RL, I'm remaking his stupidAF nuke launcher. [19-Dec-20 11:49 AM] Frax314#7488 Ery nice. [19-Dec-20 11:51 AM] Frax314#7488 Alright so what do I do Do I keep Bulalo in the dark or let him in? [19-Dec-20 11:51 AM] Frax314#7488 🤔 [19-Dec-20 11:51 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Gradually question him until you figure out whether he's chill or not. [19-Dec-20 11:53 AM] Frax314#7488 Oh chill he is Just... we already have 3 neutral outsiders [19-Dec-20 11:53 AM] iSpookulon#6763 I mean. I can step out if you want him. It's fine. [19-Dec-20 11:54 AM] Frax314#7488 Bruh don't ya *dare* I need you for knowledge cuz I saw too much from LSD and too little from CF + I need info from PC Discord at all times, if it gets raided or anything [19-Dec-20 11:56 AM] Frax314#7488 Ah fuck it the more people the merrier, shouldn't it be? [19-Dec-20 11:56 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Yeah. [19-Dec-20 12:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Tellin' him [19-Dec-20 12:26 PM] Frax314#7488 Added a recipient. [19-Dec-20 12:26 PM] Frax314#7488 There he is [19-Dec-20 12:26 PM] Raov#2531 welcome [19-Dec-20 12:26 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 No wait I don't want to go to BraziL AGGGGGGGGGH [19-Dec-20 12:27 PM] Raov#2531 Changed the channel name. [19-Dec-20 12:27 PM] Raov#2531 welcome to brazil [19-Dec-20 12:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Kek [19-Dec-20 12:27 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *Shotfan and Romero's Bitch are here too?* [19-Dec-20 12:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah. [19-Dec-20 12:27 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *And that guy I met in the Secreta Lounge but apparently left?* [19-Dec-20 12:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I meant @iSpookulon [19-Dec-20 12:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Lol. Make yerself comfortable, I gotta go offline. Don't do funny stuff [19-Dec-20 12:28 PM] Raov#2531 From polyzium: "wtf,these guys have gone TOO far.What a desperate attempt to "outshine" other work.Fuck these guys." [19-Dec-20 12:28 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I wasn't vibing with certain things Secreta was representing so I left. [19-Dec-20 12:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oof moment [19-Dec-20 12:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Well glad this isn't a straight up Discord server because I have about 10000 already [19-Dec-20 12:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *huh...* [19-Dec-20 12:29 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Kinda wish it was for the simple fact that I can't edit notification sounds without turning them off entirely. 🤔 [19-Dec-20 12:29 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Yeah. [19-Dec-20 12:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 well [19-Dec-20 12:30 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Dusted left CF behind after he made that "End of Clusterfuck" video. [19-Dec-20 12:30 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Then I came back around with Complexity 2.0 [19-Dec-20 12:30 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 glad he did. It prevented any more drama to... *oh wait* *remembers Anime Punk raiding Secreta* *right...* [19-Dec-20 12:31 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Yeah. [19-Dec-20 12:32 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 How large is this LSD gang Frax talked about? [19-Dec-20 12:32 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I don't have exact numbers. I just know they're invasiveAF [19-Dec-20 12:32 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Like, large enough that they have members all over the official Doom, Spicy Demons, Secreta, EOA, D3ath's Mod Network, HDest, and QCDE Discords? [19-Dec-20 12:33 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Wait, they're in HDest too? [19-Dec-20 12:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 no I mean like [19-Dec-20 12:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Is it possible that Lister's gang lurks about in all those mentioned Discords? [19-Dec-20 12:34 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Probably, yeah. [19-Dec-20 12:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And if someone slips a *sliver* of info you guys would be fucked? [19-Dec-20 12:34 PM] iSpookulon#6763 They're also in Ali's server (Hellrider guy) and Schism's server too. [19-Dec-20 12:34 PM] iSpookulon#6763 And Yeah. [19-Dec-20 12:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 goddamn [19-Dec-20 12:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Have all of you just been flamed from the CD Discord? [19-Dec-20 12:35 PM] iSpookulon#6763 CD discord? [19-Dec-20 12:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I mean [19-Dec-20 12:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 CD community [19-Dec-20 12:35 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Oh. [19-Dec-20 12:36 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I guess? LIster and his flunkies took issue because I did this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6uXyQTacxM&t=1s {Embed} iSpookulon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6uXyQTacxM&start=1s Spook's testing sessions #68686968420 - Beacons errywhere Ever wanted to play a better version of LSD? or a game that's actually well put together and ISN'T just a copypaste job? Well now you can with Complexity! In the base version, there are three beacons: Normal - These spawn normal marine buddies (Can only get them out of crates RN, that and very rare spawns form top tier zombies) Ammo - These spa... https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/1qJiJYRlP_cVNAUe16JICSJvbin212Ou99KSRsOZmk0/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/e6uXyQTacxM/maxresdefault.jpg [19-Dec-20 12:36 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 This is some dark web shit About a sourceport for grandpa's shooter game [19-Dec-20 12:37 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Yeah, it's some petty-crazy shit. [19-Dec-20 12:37 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I refuse to believe most competent modders and dignified Doomers would shill 20-30$ for a sourceport [19-Dec-20 12:38 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But... I guess if it's perfect then... [19-Dec-20 12:38 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *Anyone* would shill for it [19-Dec-20 12:38 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I doubt it's _perfect_ [19-Dec-20 12:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But it will be *advanced* [19-Dec-20 12:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 If he could make actor logic to optimize *Nuts*, then we'd all be fucked [19-Dec-20 12:40 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I've heard Zscript might be involved, which is really making me doubt, in all honesty. [19-Dec-20 12:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hmm [19-Dec-20 12:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ZScript... forked from Zandronum... [19-Dec-20 12:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 That's pretty crazy [19-Dec-20 12:41 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Yep. [19-Dec-20 12:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Have any of you even tried the thing yet? [19-Dec-20 12:47 PM] iSpookulon#6763 It's not out, and honestly I'm saving my money for a place to stay [19-Dec-20 12:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ah [19-Dec-20 12:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Do uh... all of you happen to be European [19-Dec-20 12:49 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I'm American. [19-Dec-20 12:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh [19-Dec-20 12:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I think I'm the only Asian here [19-Dec-20 12:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 The rest of the guys sound really Slavic/Russian [19-Dec-20 12:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And Frax is an Italian [19-Dec-20 12:51 PM] Raov#2531 why did i just think of saying oui oui baguette like hes french or smth [19-Dec-20 12:51 PM] iSpookulon#6763 .... Ha [19-Dec-20 12:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 lel [19-Dec-20 01:14 PM] Frax314#7488 140 members on their Discord. [19-Dec-20 01:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Forked from GZDoom with new netcode. [19-Dec-20 01:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Only instances of Zandronum is in the Zandro-specific and/or GZ-deprecated features [19-Dec-20 01:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Naturally, mods like ZMovement will desync still [19-Dec-20 01:17 PM] Frax314#7488 But anything that won't = fair game to be used in c/s netcode [19-Dec-20 01:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Which meeeeeeaaaaaans... [19-Dec-20 01:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Stuff like Project Complexity, Hideous Destructor and Hunter's Moon would get a free c/s netcode if we leak it [19-Dec-20 01:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeeeeeeeeeeep. [19-Dec-20 01:30 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Pretty much. [19-Dec-20 01:39 PM] Frax314#7488 I swear it was less like this before [19-Dec-20 01:40 PM] Frax314#7488 Lister's getting haughty since his port reached a certain state [19-Dec-20 01:43 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean he was always a petty asshole [19-Dec-20 01:43 PM] Frax314#7488 But now? Gee [19-Dec-20 01:59 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Yowza [19-Dec-20 02:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 If this little heist you guys are planning ever fails, I could only really see two outcomes: 1. Everyone will be moved (read: scammed) into playing this so called miracle sourceport and it hypnotizes everyone into trying it 2. Everyone laughs their ass off that someone tries to sell them a sourceport [19-Dec-20 02:03 PM] Frax314#7488 1 won't happen [19-Dec-20 02:04 PM] Frax314#7488 2... no one will be laughing about a good ass sourceport is behind a paywall [19-Dec-20 02:04 PM] Frax314#7488 Which is why we're gonna try to force him to take it down by GPL 2 infrightment if the leak fails [19-Dec-20 02:06 PM] Frax314#7488 None will be happy if we fail the leak, not gonna lie to y'all [19-Dec-20 02:06 PM] Frax314#7488 Most we could do would be restore the status quo [19-Dec-20 02:07 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I meant at the prospect that some ***BRAINLET*** thought he could scoot on by and sell something that should be free But yeah feature wise most people would be pissed [19-Dec-20 02:08 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I... don't really care. But it is a great injustice to others that do that the supposed Holy Grail of Doom modding is locked behind some EA tomfuckery [19-Dec-20 02:09 PM] Frax314#7488 The price is ridiculous and scandalous, by the way. [19-Dec-20 02:09 PM] Frax314#7488 Not even going to post it for y'alls sanity. [19-Dec-20 02:09 PM] Raov#2531 wait we know the price already? [19-Dec-20 02:09 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 What's the non-LSD supporter proce anyways? [19-Dec-20 02:09 PM] Frax314#7488 20$ [19-Dec-20 02:09 PM] Raov#2531 bruh [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Frax314#7488 *yes LSD group only gets 5$ discount, what a cheapskate* [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I could get Doom 2016 for that price [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Frax314#7488 But that's the **base price** [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I mean... [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Raov#2531 i could get- [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Raov#2531 bruh [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Raov#2531 bruh [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Frax314#7488 There's MORE [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Raov#2531 for fucking real? [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Frax314#7488 For fucking real. [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *Doom 2016 compared to a good-ass sourceport...* [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *that could play a shitload of TCs and mods* [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Raov#2531 can i say the nword once [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Frax314#7488 I'm really only paying for it for the possibility of leak. [19-Dec-20 02:10 PM] Frax314#7488 No [19-Dec-20 02:11 PM] Raov#2531 ok [19-Dec-20 02:11 PM] Frax314#7488 Lol [19-Dec-20 02:11 PM] Raov#2531 i dont got no other words than that lol [19-Dec-20 02:11 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I mean, that would be insane in a good way, if not for the fact that, you know... *this shit's meant to be free* [19-Dec-20 02:11 PM] Raov#2531 literally [19-Dec-20 02:11 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 So it's like if Doom 2016 was free but they made it paid [19-Dec-20 02:11 PM] Raov#2531 who would pay $20 BASE [19-Dec-20 02:11 PM] Raov#2531 for a sourceport [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Can one pin messages in a group chat? [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Raov#2531 yes [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Maybe I should reveal the stupid prices [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Lemme write em down... [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 HOLD ON [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***PRICES???*** [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Raov#2531 yes [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Raov#2531 $20 [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Yep. [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Raov#2531 B [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Raov#2531 A [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Raov#2531 S [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Raov#2531 E [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***FOR A SINGLE SOURCEPORT???*** [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Raov#2531 yes [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Raov#2531 and thats, again, base price [19-Dec-20 02:12 PM] Raov#2531 this is actually bullshit [19-Dec-20 02:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Wait so there's more than the 20$ price tag?? [19-Dec-20 02:13 PM] Raov#2531 yes [19-Dec-20 02:13 PM] Raov#2531 at least according to frax [19-Dec-20 02:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Bloody hell [19-Dec-20 02:13 PM] Raov#2531 imma relay this shit to poly holy fuck [19-Dec-20 02:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 What military is he drafted in btw? [19-Dec-20 02:13 PM] Raov#2531 russian [19-Dec-20 02:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I'm not used to modern day drafts [19-Dec-20 02:13 PM] Raov#2531 40km away from his hometown [19-Dec-20 02:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Russia must be a funky place [19-Dec-20 02:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 That alone probably got me flagged by the KGB [19-Dec-20 02:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 That got me flagged by the KGB twice [19-Dec-20 02:14 PM] Raov#2531 *knock knock knock* KGB OPEN UP [19-Dec-20 02:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *that* got me flagged by them thrice [19-Dec-20 02:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Hey Raov your name sounds Slav too [19-Dec-20 02:15 PM] Raov#2531 real name is ivan btw [19-Dec-20 02:15 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 That's *even more Slav* [19-Dec-20 02:15 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Lmao [19-Dec-20 02:15 PM] iSpookulon#6763 _Resnov--_ [19-Dec-20 02:15 PM] Raov#2531 thats because [19-Dec-20 02:15 PM] Raov#2531 ***i t b e l i k e t h a t*** [19-Dec-20 02:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *Soviet Union anthem starts blaring* [19-Dec-20 02:16 PM] iSpookulon#6763 ~~What do the numbers mean--~~ [19-Dec-20 02:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 They mean "ur mom" [19-Dec-20 02:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Gottem [19-Dec-20 02:16 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Nou. [19-Dec-20 02:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Dammit nOOOOOOOOOO *explodes* [19-Dec-20 02:16 PM] iSpookulon#6763 _Ya Fuggin fillingless jelly donut_ [19-Dec-20 02:19 PM] Frax314#7488 (pinned) Base sourceport that can run a whitelist of Lister's mod LSD and Project Brutality + Lister's favorite wads - 20$, 15$ for LSD community veterans. Ability to play most other mods - TBD (between 15$~25$) dollars *a month.* Ability to play blacklisted mods, that is, everything Lister hates like Project Complexity and CF: **25$ per blacklisted mod,** ***a month.*** [19-Dec-20 02:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Pinned a message. [19-Dec-20 02:19 PM] Frax314#7488 None will buy the full package, it's clear [19-Dec-20 02:19 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***TWENTY FIVE FUCKING DOLLARS???*** [19-Dec-20 02:20 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *horribly impersonates Serious Sam* IT'S A RIPOFF [19-Dec-20 02:21 PM] Frax314#7488 I am only going to buy the fifteen buck base because if we reverse engineer we don't have to buy anything else anyway [19-Dec-20 02:21 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Hey Frax how again did you conclude that Anime Punk was there to raid the Secreta Lounge again? [19-Dec-20 02:22 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Because prior to when he posted all the anti-BLM nonsense he was pretty chill [19-Dec-20 02:22 PM] Raov#2531 WHAT [19-Dec-20 02:22 PM] Raov#2531 THE [19-Dec-20 02:22 PM] Raov#2531 FUCK [19-Dec-20 02:22 PM] Raov#2531 is this billing system [19-Dec-20 02:22 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Are you referring to your house or to the sourceport [19-Dec-20 02:22 PM] Frax314#7488 1. People have been PM'd with that kind of dungpost before, like ex-CF dev Mr. Satan [19-Dec-20 02:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But this was in the offtopic [19-Dec-20 02:23 PM] Frax314#7488 So? [19-Dec-20 02:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Changes little [19-Dec-20 02:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 There wasn't really any indication that he was planning to raid [19-Dec-20 02:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Maybe Dusted already blocked Anime Punk [19-Dec-20 02:23 PM] Frax314#7488 And he wanted to send a message to his defenders any way [19-Dec-20 02:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Everyone just confronted him on his views on BLM because he was acting sus then he snapped [19-Dec-20 02:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Secreta Lounge moment [19-Dec-20 02:23 PM] Frax314#7488 I see then... [19-Dec-20 02:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Prior to that nothing else seemed out of the ordinary [19-Dec-20 02:24 PM] Frax314#7488 But I believe Anime Punk was there because Dusted was there anyhow [19-Dec-20 02:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Minus that one time he barged into Marisa and Allie ending their relationship to talk about BW [19-Dec-20 02:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I mean tbf it shouldn't have been public but I digress [19-Dec-20 02:24 PM] Frax314#7488 k no more [19-Dec-20 02:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Ok [19-Dec-20 02:25 PM] Frax314#7488 I dun wanna hear about Secreta Lounge moments anymore aaaaaaaaaaa [19-Dec-20 02:25 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Hey I have a concern [19-Dec-20 02:26 PM] Frax314#7488 Also @Raov relay the prices to Polyz if you will, I had not told him yet [19-Dec-20 02:26 PM] Raov#2531 yes i will [19-Dec-20 02:27 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Since the plan is to crack a product, wouldn't sueing someone be two-way? If you don't succeed in leaking the sourceport then you can sue them on violation of GPL 2, but if you *do* leak it then isn't it completely legal for Lister to sue you, Ristovski, and alibis (including more uninvolved but allied people like me and Romero's Bitch) on the grounds of theft? [19-Dec-20 02:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Lister doesn't have the balls or means to sue us [19-Dec-20 02:28 PM] Raov#2531 it would be technically [19-Dec-20 02:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Besides we will only threaten legal action [19-Dec-20 02:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Wait you people have money for legal action? [19-Dec-20 02:28 PM] Raov#2531 but license violation should have more weight [19-Dec-20 02:28 PM] Raov#2531 still, an attorney would be nice here [19-Dec-20 02:28 PM] Frax314#7488 It will be an absolute last resort to sue them for real [19-Dec-20 02:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Or will we have to equip the AK-47s and threaten **il**legal action [19-Dec-20 02:29 PM] Raov#2531 oh fuck yeah [19-Dec-20 02:29 PM] Raov#2531 i am willing to do OSINT on lister btw [19-Dec-20 02:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 (This is a joke do not actually-wait no stop what are you doing oh god oh fuck) [19-Dec-20 02:29 PM] Frax314#7488 Like lol Why should we trouble the courts for a fucking Doom sourceport thingy But I guess we could do that as the ultimate measure [19-Dec-20 02:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Also [19-Dec-20 02:30 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Imagine the leak fails, and we couldn't grab our hands on Lister Then a few days later someone else from the Doom community manages to crack it [19-Dec-20 02:30 PM] Frax314#7488 We will leak it under a pseudonym, naturally [19-Dec-20 02:31 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 So we don't get sued? [19-Dec-20 02:31 PM] Frax314#7488 I wouldn't even be mad kekw [19-Dec-20 02:31 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Kekw [19-Dec-20 02:32 PM] Frax314#7488 I want Lister to suspect the rest of the group but not me [19-Dec-20 02:32 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Ok cool I get to take the bullet [19-Dec-20 02:32 PM] Frax314#7488 So... Пустула [19-Dec-20 02:32 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I thought you weRe ITalIan [19-Dec-20 02:32 PM] Frax314#7488 Because they're 90% russians [19-Dec-20 02:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Oh that's the pseudonym? [19-Dec-20 02:33 PM] Frax314#7488 I was gonna have polyzium help me write in russian [19-Dec-20 02:33 PM] Frax314#7488 But typical butchered english with )s and )))s might work too [19-Dec-20 02:33 PM] Raov#2531 yall got me doe [19-Dec-20 02:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I mean, if we're lucky enough America starts war with Russia that cripples their economy and infrastructure so yall may not even have to lay a finger [19-Dec-20 02:34 PM] Frax314#7488 Ah right [19-Dec-20 02:34 PM] Raov#2531 damn shaty [19-Dec-20 02:34 PM] Frax314#7488 You could help me too [19-Dec-20 02:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But that comes at the risk of losing the nice russian fellows [19-Dec-20 02:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And no one would want that right [19-Dec-20 02:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And of course uh [19-Dec-20 02:34 PM] Raov#2531 i aint ready to die yet bruv [19-Dec-20 02:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Extreme war to prevent corrupt Doom sourceport practices to come about is probably more mental than the boomer shooter character named Mental [19-Dec-20 02:36 PM] Frax314#7488 ~~This time the deathmatch is real~~ [19-Dec-20 02:36 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Inb4 the British invade Italy and Germany because of force of habit [19-Dec-20 02:36 PM] Raov#2531 "oop sorry force of habit" [19-Dec-20 02:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Kekw [19-Dec-20 02:37 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *accidentally slaughters 80% of the population* [19-Dec-20 02:37 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 What happens to this group chat after you guys successfully leak/sue the sourceport? [19-Dec-20 02:38 PM] Frax314#7488 We stay, of course...? [19-Dec-20 02:38 PM] Frax314#7488 Пустула must stay alive :P [19-Dec-20 02:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Man I'm too young and too Asian to be part of a dark web group [19-Dec-20 02:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And I assume you yeeted me into Brazil as insurance so my ass stays quiet [19-Dec-20 02:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Started a call that lasted 0 minutes. [19-Dec-20 02:40 PM] Raov#2531 bruh [19-Dec-20 02:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 My bad [19-Dec-20 02:40 PM] Raov#2531 np [19-Dec-20 02:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Meant to check pins [19-Dec-20 02:40 PM] Frax314#7488 What arrives in Brazil [19-Dec-20 02:40 PM] Frax314#7488 Stays in Brazil [19-Dec-20 02:40 PM] Frax314#7488 First rule of Brazil [19-Dec-20 02:40 PM] Frax314#7488 🔫 [19-Dec-20 02:41 PM] Raov#2531 prices relayed to poly [19-Dec-20 02:41 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Oh god there actually isn't a leave server button hELP [19-Dec-20 02:41 PM] Raov#2531 took 3 messages [19-Dec-20 02:41 PM] Frax314#7488 Anyway do not fear much, we are not exposed to anything in any way [19-Dec-20 02:41 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Inb4 we are exposed to anything in any way [19-Dec-20 02:41 PM] Frax314#7488 Jahfhajfh [19-Dec-20 02:41 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [19-Dec-20 02:41 PM] Raov#2531 when you Jahfhajfh [19-Dec-20 02:42 PM] Frax314#7488 Merely, we must all stay quiet about our involvment with the leaked port, and say we "just play on it cuz it's good'n'free". [19-Dec-20 02:42 PM] Frax314#7488 C A P I C H E [19-Dec-20 02:43 PM] Frax314#7488 🔫 [19-Dec-20 02:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Although when the time does come to make shit hit the fan I'd like to at least leave quickly so I don't accidentally get entangled with the Russian Mafia [19-Dec-20 02:43 PM] Frax314#7488 Lolwat [19-Dec-20 02:43 PM] Raov#2531 right click group -> leave group [19-Dec-20 02:43 PM] Raov#2531 easy [19-Dec-20 02:43 PM] Frax314#7488 This aint that big anyway [19-Dec-20 02:43 PM] iSpookulon#6763 You guys are a chatty bunch. Sorry I'm kinda buried in modding work. [19-Dec-20 02:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I guess [19-Dec-20 02:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 It is okay Oppenhymen [19-Dec-20 02:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Why did all of this Complex Doom BS happen in the first place again? [19-Dec-20 02:44 PM] Frax314#7488 Too long a story to tell. [19-Dec-20 02:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And how in the absolute fuck did it involve Russians [19-Dec-20 02:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I got tons of time [19-Dec-20 02:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Not for you [19-Dec-20 02:45 PM] Frax314#7488 For me [19-Dec-20 02:45 PM] Frax314#7488 :P [19-Dec-20 02:45 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Oh ok lol [19-Dec-20 02:45 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I mean it can't be *too* long [19-Dec-20 02:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Too long. [19-Dec-20 02:45 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 It's not like Old Testament long right? [19-Dec-20 02:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Literal **YEARS** of drama. [19-Dec-20 02:46 PM] Raov#2531 bruh [19-Dec-20 02:46 PM] Frax314#7488 With many perspectives, infights... [19-Dec-20 02:46 PM] Raov#2531 now it makes total sense why your pfp is drama [19-Dec-20 02:46 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Can't you consolidate it into one sentence? I mean we managed to do that with Mark's bullfuckery [19-Dec-20 02:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Lister likes it. If only he knew it referred to him as well [19-Dec-20 02:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Speaking of which wtf did you guys mean by Mark's Pirate Bay release [19-Dec-20 02:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And is this Mark SgtMark [19-Dec-20 02:47 PM] Frax314#7488 Brutal Fate will be released on TPB so that people don't *have* to pay for it [19-Dec-20 02:49 PM] Frax314#7488 The fine game of overkill revenge [19-Dec-20 02:49 PM] Frax314#7488 And too many addons are bad for your mod [19-Dec-20 02:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 By Mark himself? [19-Dec-20 02:49 PM] Frax314#7488 I guess [19-Dec-20 02:49 PM] Frax314#7488 Yea [19-Dec-20 02:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Gee what a nice guy [19-Dec-20 02:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Too bad he once told someone to kill himself [19-Dec-20 02:49 PM] Frax314#7488 Was about to crack that joke [19-Dec-20 02:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Lmoa [19-Dec-20 02:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Hopefully I click the right link among the 500 other links [19-Dec-20 02:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 That lead to some sort of illicit material [19-Dec-20 02:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Anyhow I believe we are all entirely safe about the leak [19-Dec-20 02:52 PM] Fluffy#5319 Those prices are absurd [19-Dec-20 02:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Save for ME, as I might be the prime suspect. But we got the russian pseudonym for that after all [19-Dec-20 02:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Yup. [19-Dec-20 02:53 PM] Fluffy#5319 Honestly classic doom and everything to do with it should be played free, and shouldn't feel like you're playing some overpriced MMO with a sub [19-Dec-20 02:55 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean perhaps I could've let him slide and not have made this whole plan if it was, like, 2$ for the port and 1$ for nonwhitelist [19-Dec-20 02:55 PM] Frax314#7488 But fucking THIS? [19-Dec-20 02:55 PM] Frax314#7488 Nope nope [19-Dec-20 02:55 PM] Frax314#7488 So much nope [19-Dec-20 02:55 PM] Fluffy#5319 Yeah I guess [19-Dec-20 02:56 PM] Fluffy#5319 Man must be stopped [19-Dec-20 02:56 PM] iSpookulon#6763 For that price I could get back into WoW. [19-Dec-20 02:56 PM] Raov#2531 yes [19-Dec-20 02:57 PM] Frax314#7488 I repeat I'm only paying 15$ as the leak gamble, not because I'd actually pay that much for the port without even those paid subs [19-Dec-20 02:57 PM] Raov#2531 i will be more than happy to try and decompile [19-Dec-20 02:57 PM] Raov#2531 ofc we got ristovski but i also wanna learn stuff about RE [19-Dec-20 02:59 PM] Frax314#7488 Makes sense [19-Dec-20 03:00 PM] Frax314#7488 I will share the builds to all anyway... just don't run it. At all. DRM may be nasty, not necessarily malware but very possibly nasty [19-Dec-20 03:00 PM] Raov#2531 on the line with pooly rn [19-Dec-20 03:01 PM] Frax314#7488 Hmm [19-Dec-20 03:02 PM] Frax314#7488 I dunno what to tell him tbh [19-Dec-20 03:03 PM] Frax314#7488 Good luck to him I guess [19-Dec-20 03:05 PM] Raov#2531 ye hes mf pissed about the pricing [19-Dec-20 03:05 PM] Raov#2531 "the apple of the doom community" [19-Dec-20 03:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Hah, good joke. [19-Dec-20 03:06 PM] Frax314#7488 And very accurate. [19-Dec-20 03:07 PM] Raov#2531 btw hes getting transferred somewhere [19-Dec-20 03:07 PM] Raov#2531 nobody told where [19-Dec-20 03:07 PM] Raov#2531 but he estimates next week theyll tell him [19-Dec-20 03:09 PM] Frax314#7488 Ouch [19-Dec-20 03:28 PM] Raov#2531 okay im pulling up some info on lister [19-Dec-20 03:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Hey frax does Italy have drafting? [19-Dec-20 03:28 PM] Raov#2531 his real name is Sergei Dragunov (probably) [19-Dec-20 03:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Also how does drafting work again? [19-Dec-20 05:13 PM] Frax314#7488 How [19-Dec-20 05:13 PM] Frax314#7488 How are you getting info on him? [19-Dec-20 05:13 PM] Raov#2531 maltego {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789857962285334548/unknown.png [19-Dec-20 05:13 PM] Raov#2531 the name is specified on a twitter account [19-Dec-20 05:14 PM] Frax314#7488 Hmm [19-Dec-20 05:14 PM] Frax314#7488 This is weird. [19-Dec-20 05:14 PM] Frax314#7488 I have the feeling Sergei Dragunov, unless more common than I think, is a pseudonym [19-Dec-20 05:14 PM] Raov#2531 hm [19-Dec-20 05:14 PM] Frax314#7488 Because it's also the name of a character from Tekken [19-Dec-20 05:14 PM] Raov#2531 weird [19-Dec-20 05:14 PM] Raov#2531 maybe it is [19-Dec-20 05:14 PM] Raov#2531 but maybe it aint [19-Dec-20 05:14 PM] Frax314#7488 On the other hand Lister definitely does NOT play Tekken [19-Dec-20 05:14 PM] Raov#2531 it sounds common ngl [19-Dec-20 05:15 PM] Frax314#7488 He plays his mod 24h [19-Dec-20 05:15 PM] Frax314#7488 He just couldn't dedicate himself to any fighting game [19-Dec-20 05:16 PM] Frax314#7488 🤔 [19-Dec-20 05:16 PM] Frax314#7488 And of course I can't just ask him "Hey is your name Sergei Dragunov?????" [19-Dec-20 05:16 PM] Frax314#7488 :P [19-Dec-20 05:16 PM] Raov#2531 lol [19-Dec-20 05:17 PM] Raov#2531 tbh it might spook him for a sec [19-Dec-20 05:17 PM] Raov#2531 he has a gran turismo sport profile? [19-Dec-20 05:17 PM] Raov#2531 what [19-Dec-20 05:18 PM] Frax314#7488 ... [19-Dec-20 05:18 PM] Raov#2531 yo [19-Dec-20 05:18 PM] Raov#2531 yo [19-Dec-20 05:18 PM] Raov#2531 yo [19-Dec-20 05:18 PM] Raov#2531 i think i hit the jackpot [19-Dec-20 05:18 PM] Frax314#7488 You did? [19-Dec-20 05:18 PM] Raov#2531 maybe not {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789859203698262026/unknown.png [19-Dec-20 05:18 PM] Raov#2531 but vk always has problems with perms [19-Dec-20 05:19 PM] Frax314#7488 I think the accounts in that pic are not the Lister we are talking about [19-Dec-20 05:19 PM] Frax314#7488 https://youtube.com/channel/UCnaAJw5suT_eecoEWVr7mtA {Embed} https://youtube.com/channel/UCnaAJw5suT_eecoEWVr7mtA *Li$TeR* Устал от серых будней? Ищешь где бы в жопу отполированных клинков бы напихали? Все дум моды тупо кал без изюминки и просто замена банальная спрайтов и врагов другими картиночками? Ты любитель жанра ARPG? Тебе явно к нам. ___________ LI$TeR's Simple Doom, aka LSD, ссылка на дискорд проекта: https://discord.gg/crtSMJW https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/jSre3xQEVU87QazmeY8aCfZ1iUNXcimVevlrqUBHaaw/https/yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AAUvwngmB8puRCQIluDgk6dXulsSpJPUAJdYq-jeXtYm%3Ds900-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj [19-Dec-20 05:19 PM] Raov#2531 the twitch profile is for sure his tho [19-Dec-20 05:19 PM] Raov#2531 oh shit thanks [19-Dec-20 05:19 PM] Frax314#7488 This is his youtube channel [19-Dec-20 05:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Would definitely be useful to have info on the man [19-Dec-20 05:26 PM] Raov#2531 oh my god hes dumber than i thought {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789861281254998066/unknown.png [19-Dec-20 05:26 PM] Raov#2531 hes doing mf trading [19-Dec-20 05:27 PM] Raov#2531 on a platform that has been debunked as a scam like a year ago almost [19-Dec-20 05:27 PM] Frax314#7488 He's getting scammed? [19-Dec-20 05:27 PM] Raov#2531 hes got a full-on profile there [19-Dec-20 05:28 PM] Frax314#7488 No wonder he is setting those ridiculous prices then [19-Dec-20 05:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Kek [19-Dec-20 05:28 PM] Raov#2531 HE GOT FUCKING 220K ON HIS REAL- i fucking cant [19-Dec-20 05:28 PM] Raov#2531 this is like idk [19-Dec-20 05:28 PM] Raov#2531 $3k? [19-Dec-20 05:28 PM] Raov#2531 yeah 3k [19-Dec-20 05:28 PM] Raov#2531 maybe 3.1 [19-Dec-20 05:29 PM] Frax314#7488 yikes [19-Dec-20 05:29 PM] Raov#2531 no fucking wonder he asks so much money for his sourceport [19-Dec-20 05:29 PM] Raov#2531 he just wants to gamble [19-Dec-20 05:31 PM] Frax314#7488 This might also mean he will never lower his port's prices. [19-Dec-20 05:31 PM] Frax314#7488 So even in the case he kicks me out -- the updates alone won't be worth the price. [19-Dec-20 05:31 PM] Frax314#7488 🤔 [19-Dec-20 05:34 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 This is good ammunition you guys are building up [19-Dec-20 05:34 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 A neat and easy dispersal of them alongside the mod's release should weather away his reputation quite soundly. [19-Dec-20 05:36 PM] Frax314#7488 We will definitely have to at least try to cancel him among people who never heard of him before the port's announcement. [19-Dec-20 05:36 PM] Raov#2531 ah yes cancel culture [19-Dec-20 05:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Canceling is part of human relations, after all. And definitely part of wanting to stop someone specific from selling something that should be everyone's possession illegally. [19-Dec-20 05:37 PM] Raov#2531 can agree [19-Dec-20 05:37 PM] Frax314#7488 It just has to not be misguided [19-Dec-20 05:37 PM] Frax314#7488 And imho, we are not misguided [19-Dec-20 05:54 PM] Raov#2531 @Frax314 the name i gave is confirmed to be real by his vk profile [19-Dec-20 05:54 PM] Frax314#7488 Show me that profile [19-Dec-20 05:55 PM] Raov#2531 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789868394912546836/unknown.png [19-Dec-20 05:55 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright [19-Dec-20 06:00 PM] Raov#2531 thats him {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789869741773684776/Wfc8-nCmcRQ.png [19-Dec-20 06:00 PM] Raov#2531 and he simps {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789869798635864086/unknown.png [19-Dec-20 06:00 PM] Frax314#7488 Saving that image for shitposting [19-Dec-20 06:01 PM] Frax314#7488 :P [19-Dec-20 06:01 PM] Raov#2531 i shall dig ***every*** cringe moment from him [19-Dec-20 06:02 PM] Raov#2531 *s i m p* {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789870191936143360/unknown.png [19-Dec-20 06:02 PM] Raov#2531 okay no that [19-Dec-20 06:02 PM] Raov#2531 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789870302212784138/IIv5Yfx5Ul8.png [19-Dec-20 06:02 PM] Raov#2531 may be him [19-Dec-20 06:04 PM] Frax314#7488 Kek [19-Dec-20 06:05 PM] Raov#2531 s i m p {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789870967010099240/unknown.png [19-Dec-20 06:05 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Meestur kool [19-Dec-20 06:05 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [19-Dec-20 06:23 PM] Raov#2531 okay does lister have lsd servers? [19-Dec-20 06:23 PM] Raov#2531 this shit real? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789875651897327666/6Ipmdyo.png [19-Dec-20 06:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Which ones? [19-Dec-20 06:23 PM] Frax314#7488 On Doomseeker? [19-Dec-20 06:24 PM] Raov#2531 ye [19-Dec-20 06:24 PM] Raov#2531 selfhost if possible [19-Dec-20 06:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Long ass story bro [19-Dec-20 06:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Also Lister has servers on Doomseeker. Search for Luger, his pseudonym, in it [19-Dec-20 06:24 PM] Frax314#7488 And uhh [19-Dec-20 06:25 PM] Frax314#7488 LSD is legit, mostly [19-Dec-20 06:28 PM] Frax314#7488 I consider both LSD and CF fine [19-Dec-20 06:29 PM] Frax314#7488 'Cept as a matter of taste [19-Dec-20 06:31 PM] Raov#2531 Nah I need IPs of em [19-Dec-20 06:33 PM] Frax314#7488 Wat? [19-Dec-20 06:33 PM] Frax314#7488 If they not on Doomseeker [19-Dec-20 06:33 PM] Frax314#7488 They are offline rn [19-Dec-20 06:33 PM] Raov#2531 Makes sense to me [19-Dec-20 06:34 PM] Raov#2531 Okay I think I'm gonna take a break I gave you guys a ton of starter information to process [19-Dec-20 06:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Do [19-Dec-20 06:36 PM] Raov#2531 will [19-Dec-20 07:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Erm [19-Dec-20 07:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 This looks like doxxing [19-Dec-20 07:34 PM] shotfan#6872 What the fuck is happening [19-Dec-20 07:34 PM] shotfan#6872 Are those Lister's profile and real photo? [19-Dec-20 07:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Do we *really* have to dig *that* far to farm dirt for a numbnut who caused a clusterfuck (pun intended) in a community for a 27 year old game? [19-Dec-20 07:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Like, I understand making it so that the sourceport never gains a single cent, but do you *really* have to rummage through his personal info? [19-Dec-20 07:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Not my idea [19-Dec-20 07:36 PM] Frax314#7488 I think Raov just wants to know his real name in order to sue him [19-Dec-20 07:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Since he is russian too and can [19-Dec-20 07:36 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Oh right [19-Dec-20 07:36 PM] Raov#2531 *just in case* [19-Dec-20 07:37 PM] Raov#2531 *im 16 doe* [19-Dec-20 07:37 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But did he have to discover the dumbass was gambling his money away on a scam site [19-Dec-20 07:37 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *or* the people he simps for? [19-Dec-20 07:38 PM] Raov#2531 i discovered his gambling addiction completely randomly [19-Dec-20 07:38 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Huh [19-Dec-20 07:38 PM] Raov#2531 but i did go around searching for his info cant deny that [19-Dec-20 07:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Russia must be a funky place [19-Dec-20 08:44 PM] Fluffy#5319 The more info, the better [19-Dec-20 08:45 PM] Fluffy#5319 But yeah, use this info with care. Don't go and show it around [19-Dec-20 08:46 PM] Fluffy#5319 It doesn't leave this server unless it's used for suing or similar stuff [19-Dec-20 08:46 PM] Raov#2531 its all info the himself gave so no legal problems [19-Dec-20 08:46 PM] Fluffy#5319 If I think what lister is trying to do is true it could impact the entire doom community [19-Dec-20 08:46 PM] Raov#2531 *the pros of OSINT* [19-Dec-20 08:49 PM] Fluffy#5319 Also, I want to know if UV is involved as well [19-Dec-20 08:49 PM] Fluffy#5319 Cos I think he is [19-Dec-20 08:49 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I think he stopped being involved with LSD entirely when he was shown just how fucking racist L1st3r was. [19-Dec-20 08:50 PM] Fluffy#5319 What about the fact that Leviathan showed me messages of him and Lister shit talking the CF server? [19-Dec-20 08:50 PM] iSpookulon#6763 .... [19-Dec-20 08:51 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I don't trust anything Levi/Undead fucking says. [19-Dec-20 08:51 PM] Fluffy#5319 what about this then? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789912891755069490/05e0d4e117c8956e690bfc65607f7116.png [19-Dec-20 08:51 PM] Fluffy#5319 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789912892875079750/6dd019079a95f5803c25accc1e121c0a-png.jpg [19-Dec-20 08:52 PM] iSpookulon#6763 To be fair: No one really WANTS to play Satan's version of CF. [19-Dec-20 08:52 PM] Fluffy#5319 I honestly don't trust UV as much as much as anyone else in the nexus server [19-Dec-20 08:52 PM] Fluffy#5319 Also the fact that he invited random people from a different server idk what was [19-Dec-20 08:53 PM] iSpookulon#6763 And Admeral had, at one point, did ask if we should nuke the server. [19-Dec-20 08:54 PM] iSpookulon#6763 But I do, specifically recall him not wanting to have anything to do with LSD or Lister after he was shown screencaps of L1st3r talking about Flloyd. [19-Dec-20 08:54 PM] Frax314#7488 I once contacted UV about Lister but he was quite passive aggressive Don't think I have it anymore after I cleaned up my PMs [19-Dec-20 08:55 PM] Frax314#7488 It's funny because Lister & co. have always been outwardly homophobic since forever. [19-Dec-20 08:55 PM] Fluffy#5319 Maybe UV doesn't have any direct relation to LSD and such, but whoever texts like that to him is bound to be sus [19-Dec-20 08:55 PM] Frax314#7488 Polyzium told me LGBT-directed bigotry is common af in Russia [19-Dec-20 08:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Eagle's actively transphobic as well [19-Dec-20 08:57 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I mean. Yeah that too, but it wasn't as sudden as the racism. I believe Lister posted a picture to Mr. Satan that involved Mr. Flloyd being sat on by black, fat, naked man. [19-Dec-20 08:57 PM] Raov#2531 can confirm [19-Dec-20 08:57 PM] Fluffy#5319 Just two big baddies making out of each other [19-Dec-20 08:57 PM] Frax314#7488 You wish the man sitting on him was black [19-Dec-20 08:57 PM] iSpookulon#6763 .... [19-Dec-20 08:58 PM] iSpookulon#6763 No [19-Dec-20 08:58 PM] iSpookulon#6763 The picture was of Flloyd being sat on by a naked black man. [19-Dec-20 08:58 PM] Frax314#7488 It was that which led me to report Lister the first time to Discord support [19-Dec-20 08:58 PM] Frax314#7488 Maybe we are not talking about the same thing [19-Dec-20 08:59 PM] Frax314#7488 Because what I recall is (sensible?) ||*a photoshop of muscular white man restraining Floyd with his penis.*|| [19-Dec-20 09:00 PM] Fluffy#5319 My god what is wrong with people.... [19-Dec-20 09:00 PM] iSpookulon#6763 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730502896596287499/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503084584861776/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503313694392422/unknown.png {Embed} https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730502896596287499/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730502896596287499/unknown.png {Embed} https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503084584861776/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503084584861776/unknown.png {Embed} https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503313694392422/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503313694392422/unknown.png [19-Dec-20 09:00 PM] iSpookulon#6763 The forth one errors out. [19-Dec-20 09:00 PM] iSpookulon#6763 ~~un~~Fortunately [19-Dec-20 09:01 PM] Fluffy#5319 I kinda [19-Dec-20 09:01 PM] Frax314#7488 Regardless of the fact I have my criticisms of modern anti-racism groups like BLM, what I saw was ***undeniably*** racist. [19-Dec-20 09:02 PM] Fluffy#5319 Oh yeah almost forgot [19-Dec-20 09:02 PM] Fluffy#5319 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789915478574891008/Screenshot_9.png [19-Dec-20 09:02 PM] Fluffy#5319 From Satan's coopdoom server [19-Dec-20 09:02 PM] Fluffy#5319 And ofc lister is there as well, ofc [19-Dec-20 09:02 PM] Raov#2531 this dude tryna use russian to spark shit [19-Dec-20 09:02 PM] Frax314#7488 Mega yikes for all the screencaps. [19-Dec-20 09:02 PM] iSpookulon#6763 🤔 [19-Dec-20 09:02 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Yeah. [19-Dec-20 09:02 PM] Raov#2531 and i cant think how coop would mean chicken in russian [19-Dec-20 09:03 PM] Frax314#7488 Must be a google translate error [19-Dec-20 09:03 PM] Raov#2531 oh chicken **house** [19-Dec-20 09:03 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah it translates it like that with Google Translate [19-Dec-20 09:04 PM] Frax314#7488 This fucking dude [19-Dec-20 09:04 PM] Fluffy#5319 meanwhile in coop v4 patch notes {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/789916116776124436/Screenshot_40.png [19-Dec-20 09:04 PM] Fluffy#5319 😂 [19-Dec-20 09:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Mr. Satan seems really easily shaken, despite the rock hard act he puts up. [19-Dec-20 09:06 PM] Frax314#7488 What's this CoopDoom mod anyway [19-Dec-20 09:06 PM] Fluffy#5319 Satan's standalone project, adds some basic stuff to classic doom mp I guess [19-Dec-20 09:07 PM] Fluffy#5319 Didn't really try it though [19-Dec-20 09:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Huh [19-Dec-20 09:12 PM] Frax314#7488 So... yeah. This is fucked and if we fail we are going to litterally prove him right [19-Dec-20 09:13 PM] Frax314#7488 On the "I always win cuz I'm smarter" thing, I guess [19-Dec-20 09:16 PM] Frax314#7488 And he's gonna flap his gums around about how good a developer he is [19-Dec-20 09:16 PM] Frax314#7488 When he is not [20-Dec-20 11:03 PM] Fluffy#5319 @Frax314 Is this luger guy lister in disguise? [20-Dec-20 11:04 PM] Frax314#7488 Where? [20-Dec-20 11:04 PM] Fluffy#5319 He's in my doom server with WASHTANIRADA [20-Dec-20 11:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Yes, Luger is one of Lister's aliases like Milfleur. [20-Dec-20 11:05 PM] Frax314#7488 And WASHTANIRADA is one of his many #1 fans. [20-Dec-20 11:06 PM] Fluffy#5319 Huh, how did he bypass TSPG's proxy detection? [20-Dec-20 11:06 PM] Fluffy#5319 🤔 [20-Dec-20 11:06 PM] Frax314#7488 OH [20-Dec-20 11:06 PM] Frax314#7488 I think I got it [20-Dec-20 11:07 PM] Frax314#7488 They posted screenshots of stuff they didn't like in CF right now in their meme channel [20-Dec-20 11:07 PM] Fluffy#5319 bruh [20-Dec-20 11:07 PM] Frax314#7488 They may be using a VPN [20-Dec-20 11:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Just ban them if possible [20-Dec-20 11:10 PM] Fluffy#5319 There we go [20-Dec-20 11:10 PM] Frax314#7488 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688081961364750361/790295511080370196/Screenshot_Doom_20201220_221200.png {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688081961364750361/790295511080370196/Screenshot_Doom_20201220_221200.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/688081961364750361/790295511080370196/Screenshot_Doom_20201220_221200.png [20-Dec-20 11:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Screenshot in question [20-Dec-20 11:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Idk what's going on in it [20-Dec-20 11:10 PM] Fluffy#5319 They're probably commenting Dr. Blood's marines [20-Dec-20 11:12 PM] Fluffy#5319 Btw, you're really good help frax, thanks! [20-Dec-20 11:13 PM] Fluffy#5319 I just don't know if they'll ever stop doing this [20-Dec-20 11:13 PM] Fluffy#5319 It's just getting too old [20-Dec-20 11:14 PM] Fluffy#5319 lol "fat piggi" [20-Dec-20 11:27 PM] Frax314#7488 From CD Invasion? [20-Dec-20 11:27 PM] Frax314#7488 I agree. [20-Dec-20 11:29 PM] Fluffy#5319 Yeah it's from CDI [20-Dec-20 11:39 PM] Frax314#7488 Invasion was the best fun with Complex I've had I think [20-Dec-20 11:40 PM] Fluffy#5319 It's not bad [23-Dec-20 12:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Ok people [23-Dec-20 12:45 PM] Frax314#7488 I had Raov do some digging for THIS {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/791240060905193472/20201222_200946.jpg [23-Dec-20 12:46 PM] Frax314#7488 In short, Li$ter is more than likely a fucking stock trading scammer. [23-Dec-20 12:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Because the platform he is advertising is a scam and has a referral method. [23-Dec-20 12:47 PM] shotfan#6872 ``Help us to develop LSD (a lot), or 1000$`` [23-Dec-20 12:47 PM] shotfan#6872 Seriously? [23-Dec-20 12:47 PM] Raov#2531 yes he literally said that [23-Dec-20 12:47 PM] shotfan#6872 What the fuck [23-Dec-20 12:47 PM] Frax314#7488 This is our ultimate weapon if all else fails and our normal exposure is not enough. [23-Dec-20 12:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Lister takes Doom modding like his life reason kek [23-Dec-20 12:48 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I mean. Honestly I'd make a kofi for my doom stuff if I worked at a respectable pace. 🤔 [23-Dec-20 12:48 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Not like this though. [23-Dec-20 12:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Lmao [23-Dec-20 12:49 PM] iSpookulon#6763 ~~Honestly I'd only make one because I've been declared disabled by the Government. If I worked I wouldn't~~ [23-Dec-20 12:50 PM] Frax314#7488 There is a microscopical chance that however what he's doing is that he found some kind of loophole in the scam platform he's exploiting. But how is he gonna explain that publicly, lol. [23-Dec-20 12:50 PM] Raov#2531 only if we "pay him $1k" [23-Dec-20 12:50 PM] Raov#2531 or develop LSD [23-Dec-20 12:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Exactly. He would be cornered regardless. [23-Dec-20 12:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Just like if we try taking down the port by GPL-2 conditions [23-Dec-20 12:53 PM] Frax314#7488 He won't be able to show the source code as proof because well... he'd have publish the source code! [31-Dec-20 08:28 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Inb4 another guy pissed at Lister leaks/publishes the code before you guys can [31-Dec-20 12:32 PM] Frax314#7488 I doubt there's someone pissed at Lister who will buy it in any way but me [31-Dec-20 12:32 PM] Frax314#7488 But that'd just be a plus [02-Jan-21 11:12 AM] Raov#2531 hm he's got a point {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/794840591417737246/Screenshot_20210102_131208.jpg [02-Jan-21 11:12 AM] Raov#2531 That'll already hinder his reputation [02-Jan-21 11:13 AM] iSpookulon#6763 I got screenshots of him actively mocking george flloyd in DMs [02-Jan-21 11:13 AM] Raov#2531 Oh fuck [02-Jan-21 11:13 AM] Raov#2531 Send em in [02-Jan-21 11:14 AM] iSpookulon#6763 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730502896596287499/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503084584861776/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503313694392422/unknown.png {Embed} https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730502896596287499/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730502896596287499/unknown.png {Embed} https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503084584861776/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503084584861776/unknown.png {Embed} https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503313694392422/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503313694392422/unknown.png [02-Jan-21 11:14 AM] iSpookulon#6763 There's a forth, but it's broken. [02-Jan-21 11:16 AM] Raov#2531 god help us all [02-Jan-21 11:19 AM] iSpookulon#6763 The forth one was a image of Flloyd being sat on by a fat, naked man IIRC [02-Jan-21 11:19 AM] Raov#2531 Thank god it got corrupted or smth [02-Jan-21 11:19 AM] iSpookulon#6763 I woulda spoilered it for you lot. [02-Jan-21 11:20 AM] Raov#2531 I can try to maybe recover it [02-Jan-21 11:22 AM] iSpookulon#6763 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/682091375323512876/730503504023519362/unknown.png I mean, okay [02-Jan-21 11:26 AM] Raov#2531 tbh the more evidence we got the better [02-Jan-21 11:26 AM] Raov#2531 do you have the original file? [02-Jan-21 11:26 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Nope. [02-Jan-21 11:27 AM] Raov#2531 sad [02-Jan-21 11:27 AM] Raov#2531 oh wait wget exists [02-Jan-21 11:31 AM] Raov#2531 welp {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/794845282835496970/unknown.png [02-Jan-21 11:36 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Welp [02-Jan-21 11:37 AM] Raov#2531 nothing i can do on this one [02-Jan-21 12:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Well [02-Jan-21 12:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Mark wasn't really kicked out anywhere for racism [02-Jan-21 12:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Although Lister's is MUCH more blatant... [02-Jan-21 12:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Also [02-Jan-21 12:19 PM] Frax314#7488 I think I know why that image got corrupted [02-Jan-21 12:20 PM] Frax314#7488 It's the one I reported to Discord [02-Jan-21 12:20 PM] Raov#2531 oh makes sense then [02-Jan-21 12:20 PM] Raov#2531 makes TOTAL sense [02-Jan-21 12:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Perhaps they only acted on the image itself and didnt bother to read the rest of my report [02-Jan-21 12:20 PM] Raov#2531 i bet [10-Jan-21 11:24 AM] Frax314#7488 Guys I forgot to fucking tell you [10-Jan-21 11:24 AM] Frax314#7488 I made a misstep [10-Jan-21 11:24 AM] Raov#2531 I'm all ears mate [10-Jan-21 11:24 AM] Frax314#7488 Now I'm in Lister's pig channel compilation [10-Jan-21 11:25 AM] Frax314#7488 I have to ask him if that implicates a change in price. Call me cold, but imho 20$ and over is just not worth saving the Doom community, which is shitty already anyway. [10-Jan-21 11:29 AM] Frax314#7488 If it's a price I don't wanna pay, we're going to simply let nature run its course, except with the knowledge of everything that transpired here to be able to call him out effectively during his reign with the release of the port. Also, I was talking with him before and he said that "the port is not all I prepared for them". [10-Jan-21 11:41 AM] Frax314#7488 In that case, we're gonna write a post in both ZDF and Doomworld to make people rise aganist the GPL-2 infrightment. [10-Jan-21 11:41 AM] Frax314#7488 Since they are, while full of eh people, also of open source enthusiasts [10-Jan-21 12:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Nope, we're still on the safe shore [10-Jan-21 12:36 PM] Raov#2531 relayed all that to poly btw [10-Jan-21 12:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Including that the price did *not* change in the end? [10-Jan-21 12:37 PM] Raov#2531 yep [10-Jan-21 12:37 PM] Raov#2531 everything before your "safe shore" message [10-Jan-21 12:37 PM] Raov#2531 so, whats our current plan? [10-Jan-21 12:38 PM] Raov#2531 wait out for the release, buy the port out and reverse it to confirm he stole code? [10-Jan-21 12:40 PM] Frax314#7488 Perhaps we could reverse it and release it as "free and open source clone", which would be a huge moral slap to him since he won't be able to prove otherwise without releasing the genuine source code. [10-Jan-21 12:41 PM] Frax314#7488 But yes, the main point is to reverse and release it as open source regardless of method. [10-Jan-21 12:41 PM] Raov#2531 damn thats one good idea [10-Jan-21 12:44 PM] Raov#2531 @Frax314 from poly: The damn thing was doomed from the very start cuz of lister's thrist for money [10-Jan-21 12:47 PM] Frax314#7488 Well, actually I believe things would've went his way without any action But luckily people can help [11-Jan-21 04:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Hey Frax [11-Jan-21 04:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Is it fine if I relay to a bunch of people who have never heard of Lister about the sourceport [11-Jan-21 04:56 PM] Frax314#7488 No. [11-Jan-21 04:57 PM] Frax314#7488 Why even bother them with such a thing when it is not even released? [11-Jan-21 09:34 PM] Frax314#7488 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/798258586441744408/20210111_193410.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/798258586672955492/20210111_193342.jpg [11-Jan-21 09:34 PM] Frax314#7488 Well holy shit. This changes much. [11-Jan-21 09:35 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Jesus. [11-Jan-21 09:35 PM] Raov#2531 jesus fuck [11-Jan-21 09:35 PM] polyzium#0481 Started a call that lasted 2 minutes. [11-Jan-21 09:35 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 uh [11-Jan-21 09:35 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 what? [11-Jan-21 09:35 PM] Raov#2531 oh fuck what? [11-Jan-21 09:36 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 bruh [11-Jan-21 09:36 PM] Raov#2531 dropped him a msg [11-Jan-21 09:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh it Polyzium, but I'm not in a state to vc rn [11-Jan-21 09:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Go and vc with him if yall want [11-Jan-21 09:36 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 same [11-Jan-21 09:36 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 I am barely alive rn [11-Jan-21 09:37 PM] Raov#2531 hm the voice is definitely not him [11-Jan-21 09:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Huh? How come? [11-Jan-21 09:37 PM] Raov#2531 idfk [11-Jan-21 09:37 PM] polyzium#0481 Здарова [11-Jan-21 09:37 PM] Raov#2531 he shared his account with some guy [11-Jan-21 09:37 PM] Raov#2531 ah i see whats happening [11-Jan-21 09:38 PM] Raov#2531 his crewmates are fucking around [11-Jan-21 09:38 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 blyat [11-Jan-21 09:38 PM] Raov#2531 xddd [11-Jan-21 09:39 PM] Frax314#7488 Lel [11-Jan-21 09:39 PM] shotfan#6872 WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK [11-Jan-21 09:40 PM] shotfan#6872 How are both Pa1n and Mark THAT stupid? [11-Jan-21 09:40 PM] shotfan#6872 I smell that he is lying to you. [11-Jan-21 09:40 PM] Raov#2531 and that "ehehe" [11-Jan-21 09:40 PM] shotfan#6872 He probably talked some bullshit to these two. [11-Jan-21 09:41 PM] shotfan#6872 Did not mention to them that he is going for paid distribution. [11-Jan-21 09:41 PM] Frax314#7488 From how he spoke, I think he just asked them their relations with CF, ZDF and whatnot. [11-Jan-21 09:41 PM] Frax314#7488 Naturally, both Sarge and Pa1n are NOT in good status with either, so they are good to go on his port's whitelist. [11-Jan-21 09:42 PM] shotfan#6872 That is what I think - that he omitted the "detail" of a pricetag. [11-Jan-21 09:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Although, may not be *that* shocking in the case of SgMkIV... [11-Jan-21 09:43 PM] shotfan#6872 But regarding Pa1n, it is. [11-Jan-21 09:43 PM] Frax314#7488 I'd like not to speak to either about it regardless. [11-Jan-21 09:43 PM] Frax314#7488 For obvious reasons... [11-Jan-21 09:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Heh [11-Jan-21 09:44 PM] Raov#2531 maybe we can get some leaks through em? [11-Jan-21 09:44 PM] Frax314#7488 What a fucking shit situation. Seriously [11-Jan-21 09:45 PM] Raov#2531 okay i dont seem to be grasping just how bad it is can someone give me background on the guys? [11-Jan-21 09:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Sergeant Mark IV and Pa1nkiller are likely the most influential modders in Doom [11-Jan-21 09:46 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 what about the guy who made H-Doom? [11-Jan-21 09:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Yknow I can barely even bear this any more [11-Jan-21 09:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Having to even just talk to slimeballs like him and his Discord [11-Jan-21 09:47 PM] Frax314#7488 It's a stupid experience I really want to end asap [11-Jan-21 09:47 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 rick roll him and call it a day I guess [11-Jan-21 09:49 PM] Frax314#7488 It's just utterly fucking detrimental to my sanity to even small talk to the dude [11-Jan-21 09:50 PM] Frax314#7488 Because his petty way of things makes me take a fucking video game community this seriously [11-Jan-21 09:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Idk if I feel right about giving him 15$ for absolutely any reason anymore [11-Jan-21 09:52 PM] Raov#2531 its for the better [11-Jan-21 09:52 PM] iSpookulon#6763 So uh. [11-Jan-21 09:53 PM] Frax314#7488 I know, but for the better of a barely well and all things considered already shitty and decayed community [11-Jan-21 09:53 PM] Raov#2531 ? [11-Jan-21 09:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah Spook? [11-Jan-21 09:53 PM] iSpookulon#6763 While you guys are plotting this Anti Listor shit, I might need some help on the other end of the complex spectrum. [11-Jan-21 09:54 PM] Frax314#7488 For what? [11-Jan-21 09:55 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Well like I said in the complexity server: I'm revamping the Dark hellion and Diabloist (and the other viles that use vile attacks that have A_explode so it's not as stupid), I need some footage of the Abyssal satyr in action. [11-Jan-21 09:56 PM] Frax314#7488 You mean LSD's? You could just get it from UV's videos on Extra. But talk to me in PM for that... [11-Jan-21 10:01 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh fuck it yknow what y'all. I'm out this motherfucking drama-**based** community. Do what you will with the info I gave you so far or ask me for more of that, I don't even care any more... [11-Jan-21 10:02 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Geez [11-Jan-21 10:02 PM] shotfan#6872 You need a break Frax. [11-Jan-21 10:03 PM] Frax314#7488 Gonna send my last regards to Lister. [11-Jan-21 10:03 PM] Frax314#7488 Shotfan, I guess I'll stay in HM. [11-Jan-21 10:03 PM] Frax314#7488 Since it's disconnected entirely. [11-Jan-21 10:03 PM] shotfan#6872 You are dealing with toxic people, that is the result. [11-Jan-21 10:03 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 ^ [11-Jan-21 10:03 PM] shotfan#6872 Anybody else can monitor Lister? [11-Jan-21 10:04 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 am busy with college stuff So I'm out [11-Jan-21 10:04 PM] Frax314#7488 Raov, being Russian, can infiltrate. [11-Jan-21 10:04 PM] Frax314#7488 Better than me even. [11-Jan-21 10:06 PM] Raov#2531 defo [11-Jan-21 10:11 PM] Frax314#7488 Im entirely done with Doom community though, except HM, MALIGN and Italian QCDE [11-Jan-21 10:12 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I don't know, you should narrow it down to just being done with complex and brutal. [11-Jan-21 10:13 PM] Frax314#7488 No. I don't wanna see anywhere related to him in any way, friends OR foes. [11-Jan-21 10:13 PM] iSpookulon#6763 ... Hence why I said that. 🤔 [11-Jan-21 10:13 PM] Frax314#7488 He is going after QZandro devs somehow [11-Jan-21 10:14 PM] Frax314#7488 So not even QCDE/D4T is safe anymore [11-Jan-21 10:15 PM] Frax314#7488 Behold, more than a year and a half of having to suffer through petty motherfuckers exploding in a single meltdown worth Tyler1's medal of rage™️ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/798268823123394630/20210111_201209.jpg [11-Jan-21 10:20 PM] shotfan#6872 Roasted. [11-Jan-21 10:34 PM] Raov#2531 Not the best roast. I can't do better tho [11-Jan-21 10:37 PM] Frax314#7488 I honestly had no better material and was writing while in the heat of the moment, it's a shitty roast [11-Jan-21 10:39 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 bruh [11-Jan-21 10:40 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 that's some harsh shit [11-Jan-21 10:40 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 but it's ineffective with a guy like him [11-Jan-21 10:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Verily [12-Jan-21 12:59 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Oof [12-Jan-21 01:00 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Considering how much we could be ripped off by a 15$ sourceport, I wouldn't be surprised if members of the Doom community were to study it in length and denounce it as scandalous or try toreplicate the code [12-Jan-21 01:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Things like this are natural in my experience; make something paid and people WILL do something about it [12-Jan-21 01:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Besides we already found out he's a coomer-lookin motherfucker so that alone can ruin his rep [12-Jan-21 01:03 AM] shotfan#6872 No need for doxxing shit. The pricetag buffoonery should ruin his reputation instead. [12-Jan-21 01:03 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And then when that happens we can unload all the info we got on him on Twitter [12-Jan-21 01:04 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 He seems an even bigger sleezebag than Mark it seems, since Mark wasn't open about his beliefs [12-Jan-21 01:04 AM] shotfan#6872 I do not approve of that. [12-Jan-21 01:05 AM] shotfan#6872 Revealing the sourceport selling attempt is enough for me. [12-Jan-21 01:05 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Ye [12-Jan-21 01:06 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Considering the DRM, that alone is enough to warrant some sort of investigation on it [12-Jan-21 01:06 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Fuck if we're lucky SomeOrdinaryGamers could even detail it on Virus Investigations [12-Jan-21 02:12 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Keep in mind that, if memory serves me correct, that 15$ price tag is the bear minimum [12-Jan-21 02:13 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Since you'll need to fork over extra to play mods that are on the "greylist" [12-Jan-21 02:14 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Which is basically anything that doesn't fall on the extreme ends of Lister-Blister's dis/approval scale. [12-Jan-21 06:09 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 why the hell are his ties and interests in Project Brutality so large anyways [12-Jan-21 06:09 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Is Pa1nkiller Russian? [12-Jan-21 06:10 AM] Raov#2531 No idea [12-Jan-21 08:18 AM] Raov#2531 Poly just responded to the call from yesterday, wasn't him. [12-Jan-21 08:18 AM] Raov#2531 Just as I suspected [12-Jan-21 10:26 AM] Frax314#7488 So yeah. If you want info on how and where to get close to them or just general info, et cetera just ask me [12-Jan-21 02:58 PM] Fluffy#5319 You're right, HM seems to be the only safe haven now, if sgt mark and pa1n is into this shit as well [12-Jan-21 02:59 PM] Fluffy#5319 That or lister is a liar [12-Jan-21 03:25 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean Wouldnt be ***that*** OOC for them [12-Jan-21 03:26 PM] Frax314#7488 But tbh I don't even wanna know if it's true or not I wanna see what this shit turned into after the dust settles and never before [12-Jan-21 07:09 PM] shotfan#6872 @Sinigang the Philippine Soup Pa1n is American. [12-Jan-21 07:09 PM] shotfan#6872 I guess that Lister established a connection to PB's team by the virtue of PB growing popular. [12-Jan-21 07:10 PM] Frax314#7488 He also likes Brutal mods himself [12-Jan-21 07:10 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, he is hanging around the Schism server a lot. [12-Jan-21 07:10 PM] shotfan#6872 I am getting worried that he might pull similar trick on Lord Lothar (Schism's main modder). [12-Jan-21 07:17 PM] Frax314#7488 ... [12-Jan-21 07:17 PM] Frax314#7488 Lothar is litterally his biggest buddy dude [12-Jan-21 07:17 PM] Frax314#7488 Personally, not indirectly, they're real close [12-Jan-21 07:20 PM] shotfan#6872 So yeah. [12-Jan-21 07:20 PM] shotfan#6872 I guess I have to monitor what Lister says on that server. [12-Jan-21 07:21 PM] Frax314#7488 He generally flaps his gums around as usual [12-Jan-21 07:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Maybe I will catch on early enough if Lothar gets the offer himself. [12-Jan-21 07:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Schism definitely is on the whitelist [12-Jan-21 07:22 PM] shotfan#6872 So that means it would be included in that Lister's sold bundle? [12-Jan-21 07:22 PM] Frax314#7488 More like you don't gotta pay a subscription for it [12-Jan-21 07:22 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Fuck Lothar. [12-Jan-21 07:22 PM] shotfan#6872 What? Why? [12-Jan-21 07:22 PM] iSpookulon#6763 RacistAF. [12-Jan-21 07:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Racist? Towards whom? I never have heard that from him. [12-Jan-21 07:23 PM] iSpookulon#6763 He came into my server semi-recently because I guess someone passed him screengrabs of people talking about the server in mine. [12-Jan-21 07:24 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I brought up screenshots of Lister being racist AS FUCK and talking shit about George Flloyd, and he basically laughed it off, talked about how Lister was only parroting what other Slavic folk think, and actively did the same shit as Lister did, so I punted him off of the discord. [12-Jan-21 07:26 PM] shotfan#6872 Can I ask for screenshots of that conversation? [12-Jan-21 07:26 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Unfortunately, I forgot to screengrab it before I banned him, as I often have discord wipe logs of those who are banned. [12-Jan-21 07:58 PM] Raov#2531 From poly to all: hi all, polyzium here. The call that was made from my discord account [abruptly cut off msg?] [12-Jan-21 08:02 PM] Raov#2531 got the rest of it [12-Jan-21 08:03 PM] Raov#2531 [continued] wasn't me. It was one of my crewmates who had discord on his phone, so i can casually check discord if i get the chance; i never got such a chance. so he got bored and started fucking around w/ my account. I REPEAT: IT WASN'T ME. [13-Jan-21 01:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 What's HM? [13-Jan-21 01:02 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I've seen it been thrown around in the convo [13-Jan-21 01:09 AM] Frax314#7488 Hunter's Moon [13-Jan-21 01:09 AM] Frax314#7488 Quake 3 ~~but good~~ but singleplayer & coop. [13-Jan-21 01:09 AM] iSpookulon#6763 ~~Fug you Quake 3 was always good.~~ [13-Jan-21 01:11 AM] Frax314#7488 Go play it, it's good. 😛 [13-Jan-21 01:12 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Eh. I've played HM, it's okay. [13-Jan-21 01:13 AM] iSpookulon#6763 I'm with TerminustEst13 though: Guy should put his skills to better use, on another engine. [13-Jan-21 01:14 AM] Frax314#7488 He alread does [13-Jan-21 01:14 AM] Frax314#7488 Makes L4D2 maps, as well as some other stuff iirc [13-Jan-21 01:14 AM] iSpookulon#6763 I mean. [13-Jan-21 01:15 AM] Frax314#7488 Doom is just the easiest engine to make Q3 singleplayer, and the aim is not a tech demo [13-Jan-21 01:15 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Take all the effort he's putting into HM, and put it into another game that does what HM is doing. [13-Jan-21 01:17 AM] Frax314#7488 GZ coding/scripting is uber easy though, compared to other options, as far as I know, and it's already a project that requires a shit ton effort [13-Jan-21 01:17 AM] Frax314#7488 Kinda work minimization if you get what I mean [13-Jan-21 01:17 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Yeah but it'd be easier in, say, unreal. [13-Jan-21 01:18 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Because you wouldn't need to deal with the Sphagetti that is Gzdoom [13-Jan-21 01:19 AM] shotfan#6872 Zanieon already answered that. [13-Jan-21 01:20 AM] shotfan#6872 He said that he is not usind Quake 3 engine because Doom engine is easier to code AND has a gigantic amount of fanmade of content (like mapsets) already in place. [13-Jan-21 01:20 AM] Frax314#7488 Afaik Unreal fans have an hate boner aganist Quake, while doing Q3 to any extent in Doom is effectively impressive, as well [13-Jan-21 01:21 AM] shotfan#6872 Compared to that, the modverse of Quake 3 is small. [13-Jan-21 01:21 AM] iSpookulon#6763 🤔 Never said Q3 engine. Said unreal. But okay. Also unreal fans can eat a fat dick. [13-Jan-21 01:21 AM] Frax314#7488 Q3 is pure hell to mod as far as I have been told [13-Jan-21 01:22 AM] shotfan#6872 There was some insufferable guy back then that visited his server and talked endlessly how Unreal engine is better. [13-Jan-21 01:22 AM] shotfan#6872 That could only end in one way. [13-Jan-21 01:22 AM] Frax314#7488 Haha yeah [13-Jan-21 01:22 AM] shotfan#6872 To be fair though, he was a fucking egotist. [13-Jan-21 01:22 AM] Frax314#7488 Now that I think about it, he was basically UE1 Li$ter. [13-Jan-21 01:22 AM] Frax314#7488 Same ego, but even smaller reality. [13-Jan-21 01:22 AM] shotfan#6872 Zanieon just prefers to mod for Doom right now. [13-Jan-21 01:23 AM] shotfan#6872 He is rather disillusioned with Unreal Tournament, that might be part of the reason why he does not mod for it now. [13-Jan-21 01:23 AM] iSpookulon#6763 He can but it's still misplaced effort, especially with something that uses models so freely. But eh. [13-Jan-21 01:23 AM] shotfan#6872 He used to, but not anymroe. [13-Jan-21 01:23 AM] shotfan#6872 Not misplaced for him. [13-Jan-21 01:26 AM] Frax314#7488 Models are not the point [13-Jan-21 01:26 AM] Frax314#7488 He uses models because the sprites *are not there* [13-Jan-21 01:26 AM] Frax314#7488 They are replacements morr than the fully intended work tools [13-Jan-21 01:26 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Yeah, and using models so readily is kind of an issue considering that _THE ENGINE CHOKES AFTER A POINT DUE TO IT._ It's kind of the point. [13-Jan-21 01:27 AM] Frax314#7488 Wdym? [13-Jan-21 01:27 AM] Frax314#7488 Models in HM are pretty optimized, on fucking GZ it runs well with gigantic hordes [13-Jan-21 01:27 AM] Frax314#7488 ON MY TOASTER [13-Jan-21 01:28 AM] shotfan#6872 It even runs on my rustic typewriter of a computer. [13-Jan-21 01:30 AM] Frax314#7488 In fact iSpook, it runs better on slaugtery maps than a lot of 2D mods, including your own (no offense of course) [13-Jan-21 01:30 AM] iSpookulon#6763 To be fair slaughtery maps aren't built for Gzdoom. [13-Jan-21 01:31 AM] iSpookulon#6763 They just aren't. [13-Jan-21 01:31 AM] iSpookulon#6763 No matter how hard that cunt bridgeburning wants to try and make maps for Gzdoom. [13-Jan-21 01:32 AM] Frax314#7488 Eh? It's more like gameplay mods aren't made for slaughtery maps [13-Jan-21 01:33 AM] Frax314#7488 Ever tried Monster Interpolation to OFF? Or any display setting fiddling? [13-Jan-21 01:34 AM] iSpookulon#6763 ... No? Dude. Zdoom-based ports can't fucking handle slaughter maps very well. The reason why boom and more vanilla-related ports can do it so well because the only code the engine has to worry about is the baseline game code. With Zdoom it has to deal with extra code checks from decorate sources and the like. [13-Jan-21 01:35 AM] Frax314#7488 But it works for my toaster... [13-Jan-21 01:35 AM] Frax314#7488 So it is not *entirely* like that, at the very least. [13-Jan-21 01:39 AM] iSpookulon#6763 I mean there's always room for exceptions, but still. [13-Jan-21 01:39 AM] Frax314#7488 Theory timr [13-Jan-21 01:39 AM] Frax314#7488 GZ has some problems with certain graphic card models [13-Jan-21 01:41 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Or, you know, expecting an engine to track extra coding on hundreds of monsters at onces might lead to performance problems more often than not. [13-Jan-21 01:41 AM] Frax314#7488 But that is a mod problem [13-Jan-21 01:41 AM] iSpookulon#6763 No that's literally a Zdoom problem. [13-Jan-21 01:42 AM] Frax314#7488 It only needs to check DECORATE/ZSCRIPT in newer versions [13-Jan-21 01:43 AM] Frax314#7488 And that is not much at all, problems are when you bloat yours actors somehow [13-Jan-21 01:44 AM] Frax314#7488 And Zanieon keeps it simple with his monster/entity code. A peasant like me can read it well! [13-Jan-21 01:46 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Uuuuh. [13-Jan-21 01:46 AM] iSpookulon#6763 No? No. [13-Jan-21 01:46 AM] Frax314#7488 Illuminate me [13-Jan-21 02:29 AM] iSpookulon#6763 My laptop RN is a very recent latpop: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/798695102843322428/unknown.png [13-Jan-21 02:29 AM] iSpookulon#6763 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/798695108362240020/unknown.png [13-Jan-21 02:30 AM] iSpookulon#6763 And after some extensive testing (which was me getting carried away holy hell map05, vanilla), I was getting 40-60... with a laptop that can easily get 200fps with the same vanilla set up on something normal. Sure it's a bit of a stretch, given the map and all, but i'm pretty sure a toaster would fry if it tried the same. IDK [13-Jan-21 07:33 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 What about the Unity engine? [13-Jan-21 07:34 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Eh. If you're going with game engines, unreal is kinda the best, maybe. IDK. [13-Jan-21 10:40 AM] Frax314#7488 Isn't Holy Hell one of the biggest monster counts? [13-Jan-21 10:41 AM] Frax314#7488 I can play Chillax and EoA at like 50-60 FPS? On GZ [13-Jan-21 10:42 AM] Frax314#7488 Fairly, EoA is one of the most optimized mods out there (without the monster pace), but still [13-Jan-21 10:42 AM] Frax314#7488 In fact it just highlights more that mods might be the prime reason [13-Jan-21 10:45 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Oku has 23000+ But I can't get ahold of that mod. [13-Jan-21 10:45 AM] iSpookulon#6763 CHecking holy hell revealed. [13-Jan-21 10:47 AM] Frax314#7488 ...Holy Hell Revealed is THE BIGGEST SLAUGHTERMAP EVER MADE, at least when I last checked on doomwiki.org...? Except maybe Okuplok and stuff are more recent and they did not count them [13-Jan-21 10:48 AM] iSpookulon#6763 Holy hell revealed has 40k+ [13-Jan-21 10:48 AM] iSpookulon#6763 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/798820825813352458/unknown.png [13-Jan-21 10:49 AM] Frax314#7488 One thing to notice [13-Jan-21 10:50 AM] Frax314#7488 Most slaughtermaps also have large architecture/are big in itself, which contributes to the lag [13-Jan-21 10:51 AM] Frax314#7488 There is very likely something behind vanilla slaughtermaps lagging on GZ because I can play HM's Monoliths of Agora just fine, despite its enormous amounts of monsters per wave [14-Jan-21 11:29 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hey Frax uh [14-Jan-21 11:29 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I seem to notice you left most Discords recently [14-Jan-21 11:30 AM] Frax314#7488 I did, no more until this fuckery resolves [14-Jan-21 11:30 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 aight [20-Jan-21 06:12 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Frax [20-Jan-21 06:13 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 it appears I have some sort of new development that I slept on [20-Jan-21 06:14 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 before Anime Punk yeeted himself off Secreta he said that he already left the LSD community beforehand {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/801288467962265630/Screenshot_619.png [20-Jan-21 06:14 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 So I doubt that he was there for Dusted alone [20-Jan-21 06:14 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 (way he got banned was still pretty dense tho) [20-Jan-21 06:15 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wait shit [20-Jan-21 06:15 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wrong one [20-Jan-21 06:16 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *this* was the comment {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/801288933118967848/Screenshot_620.png [20-Jan-21 10:12 AM] Frax314#7488 Lol [20-Jan-21 10:12 AM] Frax314#7488 That cannot be [20-Jan-21 10:12 AM] Frax314#7488 For the simple reason he was there when I left [20-Jan-21 10:12 AM] Frax314#7488 He was either lying or rejoined later [20-Jan-21 10:22 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 huh [20-Jan-21 10:22 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 We'll never know 🤷‍♂️ [20-Jan-21 10:22 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Speaking of which I left the place too [20-Jan-21 10:22 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Nothing big, but I was scared I was gonna get cancelled because I'm still trying to draw black people *without* being a racial stereotype [20-Jan-21 10:30 AM] Frax314#7488 The Secreta Lounge you mean? [20-Jan-21 10:31 AM] Frax314#7488 Good choice, you can fully enjoy those mods without necessarily being part of their communiy [20-Jan-21 10:45 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Is the release candidate for Listeronum still on track? [20-Jan-21 12:07 PM] Frax314#7488 You mean if it'll still be made? Yeah... [20-Jan-21 12:21 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I meant more a release date, but yeah. [22-Jan-21 03:32 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ngl they were nice people [22-Jan-21 03:32 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But mention Brutal Doom at least once and *someone* there goes on a rampage [22-Jan-21 03:33 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Also left the QCDE Discord. Not a Hurykles moment but I was pissed at Zandronum cyberbullying me with "You fail it!" {Reactions} 🤣 [22-Jan-21 10:32 AM] Frax314#7488 You can disable medals btw... [22-Jan-21 10:32 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I know [22-Jan-21 10:32 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Glad I did [22-Jan-21 10:32 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Fucking hated those medals [22-Jan-21 10:32 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Can go burn in a ditch [25-Jan-21 12:28 AM] polyzium#0481 Surprise! [25-Jan-21 12:29 AM] Frax314#7488 Yeahhhhh... [25-Jan-21 12:29 AM] polyzium#0481 I'm back okay? [25-Jan-21 12:29 AM] polyzium#0481 Fuck the military and that crewmate of mine [25-Jan-21 12:30 AM] Frax314#7488 I chose to quit it, actually... [25-Jan-21 12:32 AM] Frax314#7488 Li$ter and people were entirely unbearable Doom community is a mess already I'm just not enough in for it, not anymore at least [25-Jan-21 12:33 AM] shotfan#6872 ``Doom community is a mess already`` [25-Jan-21 12:33 AM] shotfan#6872 Always has been 🔫 [25-Jan-21 12:37 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 I got honorably discharged cause I blew up Malaysia [25-Jan-21 12:37 AM] polyzium#0481 Gtg to sleep [25-Jan-21 12:38 AM] shotfan#6872 k [25-Jan-21 12:38 AM] Frax314#7488 Gnite [25-Jan-21 04:12 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 tfw they honorably discharge you from removing an entire country from the face of the Earth [27-Jan-21 05:41 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wasn't there a Complex Doom fork called Complex lexicon? [27-Jan-21 06:20 AM] iSpookulon#6763 NFI [27-Jan-21 10:43 AM] Frax314#7488 Lolno [27-Jan-21 10:44 AM] Frax314#7488 It's just a short for servers that run both Complex Doom and The Sentinel's Lexicon kek [28-Jan-21 12:17 AM] polyzium#0481 What are the current plans regarding Lister and his port? [28-Jan-21 12:34 AM] Frax314#7488 None, as I said [28-Jan-21 12:34 AM] Frax314#7488 Scroll upwards [02-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 cool [02-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so Hege Cactus, Lister, and Lord Lothar are in the same server [02-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Don't ask [02-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 They just are [02-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Lothar's? [02-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 nah [02-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Romero's Discord [02-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 It's pretty odd ngl [02-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Frax314#7488 Pretty normal... they are all Doom community members [02-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 seeing Lister act normally after you show all the racist shit [02-Feb-21 03:55 PM] shotfan#6872 Aaaand Lothar just lauded to me how great Listerium is going to be. [02-Feb-21 03:55 PM] shotfan#6872 He does not know what I know though. [02-Feb-21 03:56 PM] Frax314#7488 "Normally" to you. But I hate his very speech pattern by now, it reeks of something I can't describe [02-Feb-21 03:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Narcissism? [02-Feb-21 03:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 where? [02-Feb-21 03:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 LSD server? [02-Feb-21 03:58 PM] shotfan#6872 In DMs. [02-Feb-21 03:58 PM] shotfan#6872 Without any prompt from me about it. [02-Feb-21 03:58 PM] shotfan#6872 So, it seems like something is happening on the Lister's side... [02-Feb-21 04:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 man [02-Feb-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 to think you would stoop so low to sell out [02-Feb-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Lister should've just invested in Gamestock (HAH!) or else this wouldn't have happened [02-Feb-21 04:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Sorta. But I'd say it's more the self-righteousness [03-Feb-21 01:27 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Question [03-Feb-21 01:28 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Lister's outwardly homophobic correct? [03-Feb-21 01:30 AM] iSpookulon#6763 From what I was told, Lister's homophobia is in line with most people in that region. [03-Feb-21 01:47 AM] shotfan#6872 Yeeeeeeah [03-Feb-21 01:47 AM] shotfan#6872 Russia is not a LGBT paragon, either the state or the society. [03-Feb-21 01:48 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 🇷🇺 [03-Feb-21 01:49 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 F [03-Feb-21 01:49 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Well either way, surprised he didn't instantly cringe off of Romero's Discord because of the nonbinary Doom logos [03-Feb-21 01:56 AM] shotfan#6872 Surprise surprise [03-Feb-21 01:56 AM] shotfan#6872 When it comes to chumming with one of id's founders, he suddenly can hide it. [03-Feb-21 01:57 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 lmao [03-Feb-21 01:57 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 got rid of that ultra religious belief a while back [03-Feb-21 01:57 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 I saw Romero'a Discord being mentioned here and in the PB server [03-Feb-21 01:57 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 Some guy is asking if the place is toxic [03-Feb-21 01:57 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 it was concerning how Christianity was fine with nuking people because they were nonbinary [03-Feb-21 01:57 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 And that he got banned and stuff [03-Feb-21 01:57 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 nope not at all. Very friendly people [03-Feb-21 01:58 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 one downside: Lord Lothar and Lister are there [03-Feb-21 01:58 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 I guess that's why he was asking that [03-Feb-21 01:58 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but apart from that, lots of people from many different sides of the Doom community [03-Feb-21 01:59 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 NuDoom community, Quake MP community, Quake SP community, Classic Doom boomers, New School Doom mod fans, Old School Doom mod fans all converge in that Discord [03-Feb-21 01:59 AM] shotfan#6872 Romero's Games was just advertised over at Schism. [03-Feb-21 01:59 AM] shotfan#6872 ~~Expect an influx of Russian Doomers~~ [03-Feb-21 02:07 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 there's already a big group of non-native English doomers [03-Feb-21 02:08 AM] shotfan#6872 Get ready for a bigger one [03-Feb-21 06:17 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 shit [03-Feb-21 03:08 PM] shotfan#6872 Guys [03-Feb-21 03:09 PM] Raov#2531 ? [03-Feb-21 03:09 PM] shotfan#6872 Shit is going down on Schism [03-Feb-21 03:09 PM] Raov#2531 what exactly [03-Feb-21 03:09 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister got pissed off at this: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/806496607197200434/evidence.png [03-Feb-21 03:09 PM] shotfan#6872 Do not know where that post appeared - I am guessing Romero's Games. [03-Feb-21 03:10 PM] Raov#2531 ofc he will get pissed [03-Feb-21 03:10 PM] Raov#2531 hes gettin exposed [03-Feb-21 03:10 PM] shotfan#6872 But it was reposted at Schism [03-Feb-21 03:10 PM] shotfan#6872 And Lister denies that, obviously [03-Feb-21 03:10 PM] shotfan#6872 I must check the rest of the posts, hold on [03-Feb-21 03:11 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 HOLY SHIT [03-Feb-21 03:11 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 BASED DOOMKRAKKEN [03-Feb-21 03:12 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And thus, the first round of the war has been fired. [03-Feb-21 03:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Also no, that's not Romero's Discord I think [03-Feb-21 03:14 PM] Raov#2531 *10-33, 10-33, shots fired shots fired* [03-Feb-21 03:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Only person in red is the man himself, John [03-Feb-21 03:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Might be the EOA Discord [03-Feb-21 03:15 PM] Frax314#7488 Well holy fuck, I told him about it before but thought he'd stay quiet... [03-Feb-21 03:15 PM] Frax314#7488 But that's fine. [03-Feb-21 03:15 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 of course, EOA is in much closer proximity to CD so... [03-Feb-21 03:15 PM] shotfan#6872 Holy shit we have a fire over there [03-Feb-21 03:15 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but now that he's fessed up, we can spread the news and wage an intergalactic war that affects the community so far it reaches parts of the community we didn't even know about right? [03-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Nah [03-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 (jk don't pls) [03-Feb-21 03:16 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister and his pal Kinnerokhn are insulting server staff because we are defending DoomKrakken [03-Feb-21 03:16 PM] shotfan#6872 This is getting tense [03-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Kinnerokhn? Never heard of him [03-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oof Kinnerokhn [03-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Raov#2531 how bad [03-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Talk to him a lot on Romero's Discord [03-Feb-21 03:17 PM] shotfan#6872 Told one of moderators that he sucks DoomKrakkens dick [03-Feb-21 03:17 PM] Raov#2531 btw relayed to poly [03-Feb-21 03:17 PM] Frax314#7488 Polyzium is more free rn though wasn't he? Although he already stopped messaging here again [03-Feb-21 03:18 PM] Raov#2531 the reverse actually [03-Feb-21 03:18 PM] Raov#2531 hes got more work [03-Feb-21 03:18 PM] Raov#2531 and his S8 got stolen [03-Feb-21 03:18 PM] Frax314#7488 He told us he was in HM Discord... aw rip [03-Feb-21 03:18 PM] Raov#2531 phone was found and returned back to parents so only relay through me rn [03-Feb-21 03:18 PM] Frax314#7488 I see [03-Feb-21 03:19 PM] Frax314#7488 But where, Schism you say? [03-Feb-21 03:20 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 can you blame him? Mans got a large one [03-Feb-21 03:20 PM] shotfan#6872 Yes [03-Feb-21 03:20 PM] shotfan#6872 To both [03-Feb-21 03:20 PM] shotfan#6872 Also this: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/806499369784311818/evidence2.png [03-Feb-21 03:20 PM] shotfan#6872 Also posted by Lister in there [03-Feb-21 03:20 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 YOO BASED GIGACHAD KRAKKEN [03-Feb-21 03:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister's ass is burning [03-Feb-21 03:21 PM] Frax314#7488 We know nothing is gonna get solved like this but ehhh [03-Feb-21 03:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Enjoy the meltdown I guess [03-Feb-21 03:21 PM] shotfan#6872 He is not behaving rational now [03-Feb-21 03:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Reposting incriminating claims over to the general Schism server [03-Feb-21 03:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah Lister says he's a smart troll but he's got a short ass temper. [03-Feb-21 03:21 PM] shotfan#6872 You want an invite there to see for yourself? [03-Feb-21 03:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Nay [03-Feb-21 03:22 PM] Frax314#7488 I quit it for these very reasons [03-Feb-21 03:22 PM] shotfan#6872 This got pretty big [03-Feb-21 03:22 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Frax gave up on the community years ago :notsorlag: [03-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Frax314#7488 You mean the general Shism userbase is seeing that and getting pissed in turn? [03-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Frax314#7488 That would be a stellar case [03-Feb-21 03:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Well duh [03-Feb-21 03:24 PM] Raov#2531 lets fucking go its fire rn [03-Feb-21 03:24 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean *aganist* Lister [03-Feb-21 03:24 PM] shotfan#6872 He apparently wants to "clear" his name by posting this and showing DoomKrakken as the dishonest one [03-Feb-21 03:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Maybe we could fan the flames and oust him now when we have the chance [03-Feb-21 03:24 PM] shotfan#6872 Just like he went crying last time when you made that edit about LSD on TVTropes lmao [03-Feb-21 03:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Posting what? [03-Feb-21 03:25 PM] shotfan#6872 Those screenrips I reposted here. [03-Feb-21 03:25 PM] shotfan#6872 Both of them, HE posted to our server. [03-Feb-21 03:25 PM] shotfan#6872 Interesting strategy. [03-Feb-21 03:25 PM] shotfan#6872 I suppose that he feels that is his turf too. [03-Feb-21 03:25 PM] shotfan#6872 I wonder whose side Lothar will take. He is kind of forced to choose now. [03-Feb-21 03:26 PM] Frax314#7488 Ah I see, the ol'circlejerk "look at this guy trying to oppose us!" [03-Feb-21 03:26 PM] Frax314#7488 Lothar will always be with Lister, trust me. [03-Feb-21 03:26 PM] Frax314#7488 He is part of the circlejerk. [03-Feb-21 03:28 PM] shotfan#6872 I need a break... [03-Feb-21 03:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 based on how aggressive he is on this, I wouldn't be surprised if Krakken held his ground and kept on with his evidence [03-Feb-21 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 The unstoppable force Lister (because you just can't change him) VS the unmovable object DoomKrakken [03-Feb-21 03:30 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Cringe Lister vs Based DoomKrakken [03-Feb-21 03:30 PM] shotfan#6872 Should we contact DoomKrakken? [03-Feb-21 03:30 PM] Raov#2531 i think yeah [03-Feb-21 03:31 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 sure [03-Feb-21 03:32 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 this poses an issue however [03-Feb-21 03:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 since we got a full-on Doom modder on our side, his reputation may be completely tarnished, considering the risk of this operation being that "if the community doesn't believe us, we'll be exiled" [03-Feb-21 03:33 PM] Frax314#7488 I will [03-Feb-21 03:33 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, he needs support. [03-Feb-21 03:33 PM] shotfan#6872 Good enough that he had courage to post this. [03-Feb-21 03:34 PM] Frax314#7488 Fuck I don't have his friend and am not in any discord of his [03-Feb-21 03:34 PM] shotfan#6872 DoomKrakken should have ties to the Pillowblaster's team in turn. [03-Feb-21 03:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 really? odd... [03-Feb-21 03:34 PM] shotfan#6872 He cooperated for some time on Guncaster I believe. [03-Feb-21 03:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 remember in Secreta that he apparently annoyed the GC devs more than help :P [03-Feb-21 03:35 PM] shotfan#6872 If only for the addons. [03-Feb-21 03:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 this is coming from KeksDose himself BTW [03-Feb-21 03:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh also [03-Feb-21 03:35 PM] shotfan#6872 So you know more than me. [03-Feb-21 03:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I've met a friend from the Brutal side of the community, SirPaulCharlie [03-Feb-21 03:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 is he a problem? [03-Feb-21 03:35 PM] shotfan#6872 Hmmm [03-Feb-21 03:36 PM] shotfan#6872 I think that he is harmless [03-Feb-21 03:36 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 does the name ring a bell? [03-Feb-21 03:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Don't know him [03-Feb-21 03:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Probably joined after I quit it... [03-Feb-21 03:37 PM] Frax314#7488 So yeah... you gotta contact DoomKrakken yourself [03-Feb-21 03:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 dammit [03-Feb-21 03:40 PM] shotfan#6872 SirPaulCharlie probably came from the Schism server. [03-Feb-21 03:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 and PB server [03-Feb-21 03:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he was nice ngl [03-Feb-21 03:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Me and him recommended Dox to make a PB 3.0 Chainsaw upgrade that turned it into a triple-bladed laser chainsaw [03-Feb-21 03:43 PM] Frax314#7488 I don't get what you mean [03-Feb-21 03:43 PM] Frax314#7488 Did this SirPaulCharlie guy say anything there? [03-Feb-21 03:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 nope [03-Feb-21 03:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but I wanted to know I was with the right people [03-Feb-21 03:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Talking to DoomKrakken rn [03-Feb-21 03:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 what should I tell him other than "I know wut happen abut Listernem lmao out loud" [03-Feb-21 03:45 PM] shotfan#6872 Dunno [03-Feb-21 03:45 PM] shotfan#6872 Maybe that there is group that is collecting incriminating evidence on him? [03-Feb-21 03:45 PM] shotfan#6872 Like, ours? [03-Feb-21 03:45 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hmm. I told him that Frax told me to talk to him [03-Feb-21 03:45 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Which now that I realize was likely not the smartest decision [03-Feb-21 03:46 PM] shotfan#6872 Should I talk to him? [03-Feb-21 03:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 nah already talking to Krak [03-Feb-21 03:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 what else should I do [03-Feb-21 03:47 PM] shotfan#6872 Meanwhile: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/806506219656183808/evidence3.png [03-Feb-21 03:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I told him about his sourceport mishap [03-Feb-21 03:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Is that some group chat you have? [03-Feb-21 03:48 PM] shotfan#6872 DoomKrakken claims here to having already trying to warn Lothar. [03-Feb-21 03:48 PM] shotfan#6872 @Frax314 A DM with YourpalZ3R0. [03-Feb-21 03:48 PM] Frax314#7488 And how you got that? [03-Feb-21 03:48 PM] shotfan#6872 He posted that screenshot for me. [03-Feb-21 03:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh [03-Feb-21 03:48 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *sees earlier comment here about Lothar and Lister being best bros 4 lyfe* ***o o f*** [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] shotfan#6872 Z3R0 is a comoderator over at Schism. [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] Frax314#7488 Well idk Bulalo, ask him to accept my friend request I guess [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] shotfan#6872 He does not know. [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 sure [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wait [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *did you even send him one?* [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 frax? [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***FRAX*** [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] Frax314#7488 I did [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ok ok cool [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] Frax314#7488 He accepted it it seems [03-Feb-21 03:49 PM] shotfan#6872 lol [03-Feb-21 03:50 PM] shotfan#6872 This is a top-secret operation [03-Feb-21 03:50 PM] shotfan#6872 Contact us under 140.85 [03-Feb-21 03:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh ok [03-Feb-21 03:50 PM] shotfan#6872 (Sorry, I wanted a MGS joke) [03-Feb-21 03:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 well I gotta eat, take a shower, and resume my healthy life without Quake Multiplayer [03-Feb-21 03:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 It's been real [03-Feb-21 03:51 PM] Frax314#7488 So Lister removed his stuff, Krakken told me? [03-Feb-21 03:51 PM] shotfan#6872 Where? [03-Feb-21 03:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Asking him rn [03-Feb-21 03:52 PM] shotfan#6872 Should I save the posts from the Schism server? [03-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Do [03-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Frax314#7488 May be important [03-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Raov#2531 alright mate wya /s {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/806507815173881896/unknown.png [03-Feb-21 03:56 PM] shotfan#6872 lol [03-Feb-21 04:14 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 @Frax314 You or anyone else still have access to any Listeronum resources? Would be nice if that was still made available to the community. [03-Feb-21 04:15 PM] Frax314#7488 No [03-Feb-21 04:15 PM] Raov#2531 resources being? [03-Feb-21 04:15 PM] Frax314#7488 None [03-Feb-21 04:15 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Damn [03-Feb-21 04:15 PM] Raov#2531 nah i know [03-Feb-21 04:15 PM] Frax314#7488 There are no resources of it out until it properly releases. [03-Feb-21 04:15 PM] Raov#2531 but @HeisenDrive what did you mean by resources [03-Feb-21 04:16 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Anything, really [03-Feb-21 04:16 PM] Raov#2531 ah [03-Feb-21 04:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Although I think I do have zandronum-fixed.zip, their simple bugfix port of Zandronim. [03-Feb-21 04:16 PM] Raov#2531 i still got a maltego map on hinm [03-Feb-21 04:16 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I see [03-Feb-21 04:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 What happened with the talk with DoomKrakken [03-Feb-21 04:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Did anything come out of it [03-Feb-21 04:54 PM] Frax314#7488 Just told him he can use me for reference [03-Feb-21 04:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I see [03-Feb-21 04:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Feeling like he might spread it in the QCDE Discord too [03-Feb-21 05:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Who? [03-Feb-21 05:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, naturally, Lister hates Q-Zandronum as he told me. [03-Feb-21 06:08 PM] shotfan#6872 DoomKrakken declined the invitation to our group? [03-Feb-21 06:08 PM] Frax314#7488 I didn't give it to him, I feel I shouldn't yet [03-Feb-21 06:11 PM] shotfan#6872 But he is informed of us? [03-Feb-21 06:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Nope. [03-Feb-21 06:12 PM] shotfan#6872 Alright then. [03-Feb-21 06:13 PM] shotfan#6872 No more contact until we decide to bring him here, yes? [03-Feb-21 06:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Unless he asks for our assistance. [04-Feb-21 02:52 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh, I just remembered ha group DMs like these have a limit of 10 members anyway. [04-Feb-21 02:52 PM] Raov#2531 yep [04-Feb-21 02:52 PM] shotfan#6872 So if we want to invite more people, that means we would need a proper server. [04-Feb-21 02:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Wait they do? Huh. [04-Feb-21 02:53 PM] Frax314#7488 wtf we are exactly 10 [04-Feb-21 02:54 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah that is the issue. [04-Feb-21 02:54 PM] shotfan#6872 So yeah, this is getting big lol [04-Feb-21 03:06 PM] Frax314#7488 We'll see if and when it's time to include more people for a reason or another [04-Feb-21 03:06 PM] Frax314#7488 But how'd it end in Schism server? [04-Feb-21 03:20 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister got generally told to fuck off with his assholery and witch hunting. [04-Feb-21 03:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Moderators beside myself got seriously confused about how to respond. [04-Feb-21 03:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar did not want to read everything, he claimed that he was overwhelmed. He just said on the server that they need to cut the talk or he will start kicking and banning. [04-Feb-21 03:22 PM] shotfan#6872 (No such penalty so far) [04-Feb-21 03:22 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 lol [04-Feb-21 03:23 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 £ > $ [04-Feb-21 03:23 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 there [04-Feb-21 03:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister also played the buddy card with Lothar, so I asked him in the moderator channel if that is true. I am awaiting response. [04-Feb-21 03:23 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Lister wreck'd [04-Feb-21 03:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Not really [04-Feb-21 03:23 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 pound is better than dollar [04-Feb-21 03:23 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 get wreckd [04-Feb-21 03:23 PM] shotfan#6872 He still posted afterwards, acting like he does not have to change himself at all. [04-Feb-21 03:24 PM] shotfan#6872 I am considering confronting Lothar about DoomKrakken's claims. [04-Feb-21 03:24 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 wait what? DoomKrakken? [04-Feb-21 03:24 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 he with Lister? [04-Feb-21 03:24 PM] shotfan#6872 No [04-Feb-21 03:24 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 oh good [04-Feb-21 03:24 PM] shotfan#6872 Quite the opposite [04-Feb-21 03:24 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 dude's very chill and would have been mega confused if he was with him [04-Feb-21 03:25 PM] shotfan#6872 It all started because Lister reposted DK's post that claimed what we know of Lister's scam. [04-Feb-21 03:25 PM] shotfan#6872 So Lister came with that to Schism server, acting like he is the best and free of any misdoings. [04-Feb-21 03:26 PM] shotfan#6872 But the backlash was great, some random people calling out on his bullshit. [04-Feb-21 03:27 PM] shotfan#6872 I need to see what Lothar replies. [04-Feb-21 03:28 PM] Raov#2531 great shit [04-Feb-21 03:28 PM] Raov#2531 i see everything is going to plan [04-Feb-21 03:30 PM] Raov#2531 updates relayed to poly [04-Feb-21 03:33 PM] Frax314#7488 Nice enough outcome [04-Feb-21 03:33 PM] Frax314#7488 So the Schism people have shown to be aganist the port being paid in the first place, right? [04-Feb-21 03:34 PM] shotfan#6872 Not many public replies. [04-Feb-21 03:34 PM] shotfan#6872 Two regular users for now. [04-Feb-21 03:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Fine enough [04-Feb-21 03:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Sent Krakken an useful screenshot [04-Feb-21 03:38 PM] Frax314#7488 Namely this one. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/806866200063770664/20210204_133607.jpg [04-Feb-21 03:39 PM] shotfan#6872 That is the most important one I suppose? [04-Feb-21 03:39 PM] Raov#2531 im guessing [04-Feb-21 03:39 PM] Raov#2531 hold on i might be able to dig up more info on him actually [04-Feb-21 03:39 PM] Raov#2531 maybe to the point of a full dox [04-Feb-21 03:40 PM] Raov#2531 but not posting it here because tos duh [04-Feb-21 03:47 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean. It is not a dox if it is info shared by him, unless he deletes it *before* they are shared... [04-Feb-21 03:47 PM] shotfan#6872 hmmmmmmmmm [04-Feb-21 03:47 PM] Raov#2531 this is why i should act quick [04-Feb-21 03:47 PM] shotfan#6872 Social media, not so harmless [04-Feb-21 03:48 PM] shotfan#6872 WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT {Reactions} 😛 [04-Feb-21 03:48 PM] Raov#2531 we scoured through his VK profile [04-Feb-21 03:48 PM] Raov#2531 hes a huge fucking simp [04-Feb-21 03:50 PM] shotfan#6872 Figures. [04-Feb-21 03:51 PM] Frax314#7488 We already got the screens from there, right? [04-Feb-21 03:51 PM] Raov#2531 hell yeah we do {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/806869580978454548/unknown.png [04-Feb-21 03:51 PM] Raov#2531 https://discord.com/channels/@me/786555353407029270/789869801098706988 starts here [04-Feb-21 03:52 PM] shotfan#6872 What he does with those photos? [04-Feb-21 03:52 PM] shotfan#6872 Comment on them, like them? [04-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Raov#2531 likes, reposts [04-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Raov#2531 sometimes comments [04-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Raov#2531 for example "holy shit she hot daym" [04-Feb-21 03:52 PM] shotfan#6872 Clear enough. [04-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Raov#2531 *translated and not word-for-word* [04-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Raov#2531 that message i linked says "shes fucking amazing" [04-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Kekw [04-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Although that's barely a real argument... [04-Feb-21 03:54 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah yeah [04-Feb-21 03:54 PM] shotfan#6872 typical ogling [04-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Raov#2531 well yeah thats not much of a point [04-Feb-21 03:54 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~Makes me think whether it is more probable that he is single or looking for a cheat venture~~ [04-Feb-21 03:55 PM] Frax314#7488 May be funny to add to a big dissertation on him though [04-Feb-21 04:17 PM] Raov#2531 oh fuck he has a roblox profile {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/806876192510181396/unknown.png [04-Feb-21 04:21 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 R O B L O X . C O M [04-Feb-21 04:22 PM] Raov#2531 he also got memes on his twitch offline screen so this pic of him is invalidated https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786555353407029270/789869741773684776/Wfc8-nCmcRQ.png?width=340&height=453 {Embed} https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786555353407029270/789869741773684776/Wfc8-nCmcRQ.png?width=340&height=453 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786555353407029270/789869741773684776/Wfc8-nCmcRQ.png [04-Feb-21 04:22 PM] Raov#2531 he cant be this fuckin old [04-Feb-21 04:22 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~maybe he balded soon~~ [04-Feb-21 04:27 PM] Raov#2531 his periscope profile name is sergei dragunov [04-Feb-21 04:27 PM] Raov#2531 so probablyn thats his real name [04-Feb-21 04:27 PM] Raov#2531 bnut then we got only 2 samples [04-Feb-21 04:27 PM] Raov#2531 so probs not [04-Feb-21 04:27 PM] shotfan#6872 That is a Tekken 5 character 😄 [04-Feb-21 04:27 PM] Raov#2531 i know [04-Feb-21 04:28 PM] Raov#2531 i mean the name/surname combo is valid in russia and the name is pretty common [04-Feb-21 04:38 PM] Frax314#7488 I doubt it though [04-Feb-21 04:38 PM] Frax314#7488 Especially cuz he told me his main was Dragunov. [04-Feb-21 04:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Sergei is a common name, yes, but the surname is suspicious... [04-Feb-21 04:38 PM] Raov#2531 can agree [04-Feb-21 04:39 PM] shotfan#6872 It is most known for that DMR gun (SVD Dragunov). [04-Feb-21 04:39 PM] Raov#2531 ye mate i didnt move into russia yesterday lol [04-Feb-21 04:39 PM] shotfan#6872 Tekken character probably played off from that. [04-Feb-21 04:39 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not question that lol [04-Feb-21 04:39 PM] shotfan#6872 Just with this exact combination, we cannot be sure. [04-Feb-21 06:08 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh, really [04-Feb-21 06:09 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister just hauled his ass to LiTDoom [04-Feb-21 06:09 PM] shotfan#6872 I am a moderator there too... [04-Feb-21 06:09 PM] Raov#2531 i can make an alt- oh perfect [04-Feb-21 06:09 PM] shotfan#6872 He is not even bothering with secrecy. Just lurking out in the open. [04-Feb-21 06:11 PM] Raov#2531 btw is that his server? [04-Feb-21 06:12 PM] shotfan#6872 No. Of course not. [04-Feb-21 06:12 PM] Raov#2531 ah good [04-Feb-21 06:12 PM] Raov#2531 he cant kick us outta there then if shit goes down [04-Feb-21 06:12 PM] shotfan#6872 It belongs to Grey Wolf. [04-Feb-21 06:12 PM] Raov#2531 btw i brought up no other info [04-Feb-21 06:12 PM] shotfan#6872 No, I got you covered there. [04-Feb-21 06:13 PM] Raov#2531 i still need his middle name [04-Feb-21 06:13 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~Sergeiovich~~ [04-Feb-21 06:13 PM] Raov#2531 then i can do a government resources lookup [04-Feb-21 06:13 PM] Raov#2531 wait real middle name? [04-Feb-21 06:13 PM] Raov#2531 like [04-Feb-21 06:13 PM] Raov#2531 his and not the tekken character's? [04-Feb-21 06:14 PM] shotfan#6872 No I am just joking 😄 [04-Feb-21 06:14 PM] shotfan#6872 Hence the strikethrough [04-Feb-21 06:14 PM] Raov#2531 lol [04-Feb-21 06:14 PM] Frax314#7488 I don't think having his name will help anything [04-Feb-21 06:15 PM] Raov#2531 nah it will [04-Feb-21 06:15 PM] Raov#2531 at least with the dox [04-Feb-21 06:15 PM] Frax314#7488 For the Olymp Trade scam he's running? [04-Feb-21 06:15 PM] Raov#2531 he doesnt own olymp trade i think you know that [04-Feb-21 06:15 PM] shotfan#6872 What now? [04-Feb-21 06:15 PM] Raov#2531 otherwise he wouldnt be selling his port and instead swimming in money somewhere in moscow [04-Feb-21 06:16 PM] Frax314#7488 I know, but he is still part of that. I don't see how his name would be relevant to his self in the Doom community. [04-Feb-21 06:16 PM] Raov#2531 it wont be [04-Feb-21 06:16 PM] Raov#2531 but it will be helpful with a very possible dox [04-Feb-21 06:17 PM] Raov#2531 okay i kinda dont see any point in it now [04-Feb-21 06:17 PM] shotfan#6872 What is Olymp Trade? [04-Feb-21 06:17 PM] Raov#2531 scam trading website [04-Feb-21 06:17 PM] Raov#2531 buy stonks, sell stonks, gets scammed in between [04-Feb-21 06:18 PM] Frax314#7488 Goes by word-of-mouth and Li$ter said he'd let you know all of its secrets... for a (huge) fee. [04-Feb-21 06:18 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/806906464832192572/stonks.jpg [04-Feb-21 06:18 PM] Raov#2531 ah yes just so that he can lose even more [04-Feb-21 06:18 PM] shotfan#6872 Professional scammer, just great. [04-Feb-21 06:18 PM] Raov#2531 that fee being btw? [04-Feb-21 06:19 PM] Frax314#7488 I don't remember. Lemme see the images, pretty sure I sent the screenshot... [04-Feb-21 06:19 PM] Frax314#7488 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/791240060905193472/20201222_200946.jpg {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/791240060905193472/20201222_200946.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786555353407029270/791240060905193472/20201222_200946.jpg [04-Feb-21 06:19 PM] Frax314#7488 1000$ :kekw: [04-Feb-21 06:19 PM] Raov#2531 ah the trading secrets [04-Feb-21 06:20 PM] Raov#2531 yeah $1k for a scam platform is like definitely not bs [04-Feb-21 06:20 PM] Raov#2531 youll get better luck at cryptoexchanges even [04-Feb-21 06:21 PM] shotfan#6872 1000$ is probably three average salaries in Russia or something? [04-Feb-21 06:21 PM] Raov#2531 2.4 average salaries in my area [04-Feb-21 06:22 PM] Raov#2531 actually no [04-Feb-21 06:22 PM] Raov#2531 its around 30k rubles [04-Feb-21 06:22 PM] Raov#2531 so $396.73 going by current rates [04-Feb-21 06:23 PM] Raov#2531 2.52 salaries [04-Feb-21 06:23 PM] Raov#2531 hes ballin [04-Feb-21 06:24 PM] Frax314#7488 OR **Help us to develop LSD( a lot),** [04-Feb-21 06:24 PM] Frax314#7488 That is the ridiculous part [04-Feb-21 06:30 PM] Frax314#7488 This is definitely the shadiest show of his I mean, stock trading secrets for help on a game mod? Seriously? [04-Feb-21 06:35 PM] shotfan#6872 Welcome to 🇷🇺 [04-Feb-21 06:37 PM] iSpookulon#6763 ... Wat [04-Feb-21 06:39 PM] shotfan#6872 We Slavs like to scam ourselves at every opportunity. Glorious postcommunist heritage. [04-Feb-21 06:40 PM] Raov#2531 yeah in russia you either scam or get scammed [04-Feb-21 06:40 PM] shotfan#6872 It is not like Poland is free of it either. [04-Feb-21 07:14 PM] iSpookulon#6763 🤔 [04-Feb-21 09:04 PM] shotfan#6872 Not good [04-Feb-21 09:04 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar treats me like I am an idiot, refusing to answer my question about his relationship with Lister [04-Feb-21 09:05 PM] shotfan#6872 He behaves like it is nothing important and invents excuses to not give an answer immediately [04-Feb-21 09:05 PM] shotfan#6872 This stinks. [04-Feb-21 09:06 PM] Frax314#7488 If you wanna call him out, do it. If you don't, don't. I guess. [04-Feb-21 09:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Remember to use the GPL-2 license as the main argument aganist the port. [04-Feb-21 09:07 PM] shotfan#6872 He is hiding something, definitely. [04-Feb-21 09:07 PM] Frax314#7488 He never hid it before. Which makes me confused now. [04-Feb-21 09:07 PM] shotfan#6872 I just did not expect him to resort to such dishonest tactics at the first step. [04-Feb-21 09:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Can you send me screens so I can understand better? [04-Feb-21 09:08 PM] shotfan#6872 Not right now, unfortunately. [04-Feb-21 09:08 PM] shotfan#6872 I will do it as soon as I can. [04-Feb-21 09:09 PM] Frax314#7488 Maybe a copypaste of his messages? [04-Feb-21 09:09 PM] shotfan#6872 That is not enough, you should have full context. [04-Feb-21 09:09 PM] shotfan#6872 I have to gather this all first, before I do my move anyways. [04-Feb-21 09:09 PM] Frax314#7488 I see, alright [04-Feb-21 09:11 PM] Frax314#7488 But do NOT use any of Li$ter's direct behaviour/stuff you wouldn't know. [04-Feb-21 09:11 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, I need to make sure what that buffoon foolishly told about himself. [04-Feb-21 09:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Who? Lister? [04-Feb-21 09:37 PM] shotfan#6872 Yes. [04-Feb-21 09:40 PM] Frax314#7488 One more advice: if anyone retorts something about CF, just say you don't know nor care about it [04-Feb-21 09:41 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not care about that shit indeed lol [04-Feb-21 10:14 PM] Frax314#7488 But what exactly are you doing? Scouting through the Discord? [04-Feb-21 10:19 PM] shotfan#6872 Now? I am trying to procure all of relevant screenshots. [04-Feb-21 10:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Ah I see. Recall what Krakken said though -- Lister deleted quite a few past messages [04-Feb-21 11:26 PM] shotfan#6872 Damn it, getting those screenshots is not as simple. I need better hardware. [04-Feb-21 11:27 PM] shotfan#6872 I should get it done by tomorrow. Sorry for the delay. There is a lot of stuff to save (luckily nobody erased anything yet). [05-Feb-21 06:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 kek out loud {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807093002924720178/Screenshot_680.png [05-Feb-21 07:00 AM] Raov#2531 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807098213621301248/Adobe_20210205_085959.jpg [05-Feb-21 09:57 AM] Frax314#7488 Lul [05-Feb-21 12:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Alright guys, I have the screenshots of what happened in the Schism server. Over fifty of them. Should I post them all here? [05-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Fluffy#5319 Sure [05-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Fluffy#5319 Also guess things with listeronum isn't really going according to plan huh? [05-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Fluffy#5319 Shame, real shame [05-Feb-21 12:50 PM] Fluffy#5319 😄 [05-Feb-21 12:50 PM] shotfan#6872 You will for yourself what went down there. This will take a moment. [05-Feb-21 12:51 PM] shotfan#6872 There are three parts. First, the Schism general server. Here we go... [05-Feb-21 12:51 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807186735951380491/2021-02-04_23.57.22.png [05-Feb-21 12:52 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807186797788528640/2021-02-04_23.57.48.png [05-Feb-21 12:52 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807186841500516362/2021-02-04_23.58.33.png [05-Feb-21 12:52 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807186944756416522/2021-02-05_00.00.09.png [05-Feb-21 12:53 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187045708464128/2021-02-05_00.00.35.png [05-Feb-21 12:53 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187094698459136/2021-02-05_00.01.20.png [05-Feb-21 12:53 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187147106680882/2021-02-05_00.01.42.png [05-Feb-21 12:53 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187204099145778/2021-02-05_00.02.19.png [05-Feb-21 12:53 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187253028847676/2021-02-05_00.02.54.png [05-Feb-21 12:54 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187417362595840/2021-02-05_00.04.07.png [05-Feb-21 12:54 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187453563371552/2021-02-05_00.05.11.png [05-Feb-21 12:54 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187508009893908/2021-02-05_00.05.28.png [05-Feb-21 12:55 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187548291596298/2021-02-05_00.05.51.png [05-Feb-21 12:55 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187586883125338/2021-02-05_00.06.57.png [05-Feb-21 12:55 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187625664053248/2021-02-05_00.07.33.png [05-Feb-21 12:55 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187690722164736/2021-02-05_00.08.08.png [05-Feb-21 12:55 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187721101115392/2021-02-05_00.08.57.png [05-Feb-21 12:56 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187780508581898/2021-02-05_00.09.15.png [05-Feb-21 12:56 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187842207318056/2021-02-05_00.11.00.png [05-Feb-21 12:56 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187889284186142/2021-02-05_00.11.21.png [05-Feb-21 12:56 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187940764549140/2021-02-05_00.13.58.png [05-Feb-21 12:56 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807187988979122226/2021-02-05_00.14.21.png [05-Feb-21 12:57 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807188054892609606/2021-02-05_00.15.17.png [05-Feb-21 12:57 PM] Fluffy#5319 Things got really lit here [05-Feb-21 12:57 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807188127730630656/2021-02-05_00.15.38.png [05-Feb-21 12:57 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807188160613842974/2021-02-05_00.16.53.png [05-Feb-21 12:57 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807188213538095125/2021-02-05_00.17.23.png [05-Feb-21 12:57 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807188257287700480/2021-02-05_00.18.08.png [05-Feb-21 12:58 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807188321972518953/2021-02-05_00.19.00.png [05-Feb-21 12:58 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807188383491293194/2021-02-05_00.20.11.png [05-Feb-21 12:58 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807188440952340511/2021-02-05_00.20.37.png [05-Feb-21 12:59 PM] shotfan#6872 That is the first batch. [05-Feb-21 12:59 PM] shotfan#6872 The second is from the staff channel. [05-Feb-21 01:00 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807188772000890911/2021-02-04_23.42.03.png [05-Feb-21 01:00 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807188839943897088/2021-02-04_23.42.54.png [05-Feb-21 01:00 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807188959619973134/2021-02-04_23.45.50.png [05-Feb-21 01:00 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807189010048221194/2021-02-04_23.46.36.png [05-Feb-21 01:01 PM] Fluffy#5319 Is that the end? [05-Feb-21 01:02 PM] shotfan#6872 No, hold on [05-Feb-21 01:02 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807189327314550845/2021-02-04_23.53.17.png [05-Feb-21 01:02 PM] Fluffy#5319 Oh you posted that already [05-Feb-21 01:02 PM] Fluffy#5319 Or wait [05-Feb-21 01:03 PM] Fluffy#5319 But yeah, 4 years later and lister is still salty from being banned from TSPG [05-Feb-21 01:03 PM] shotfan#6872 I am trying to maintain continuity, hence the final posts on the screenshots are repeated on the subsequent ones. [05-Feb-21 01:03 PM] Fluffy#5319 Just move on buddy [05-Feb-21 01:04 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807189824057901066/2021-02-04_23.53.34.png [05-Feb-21 01:04 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807189971655065609/2021-02-04_23.47.20.png [05-Feb-21 01:04 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807190005322874880/2021-02-04_23.47.43.png [05-Feb-21 01:05 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807190080186875924/2021-02-04_23.48.31.png [05-Feb-21 01:05 PM] shotfan#6872 Here goes search engine image dump... [05-Feb-21 01:05 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807190254980563014/2021-02-04_23.49.03.png [05-Feb-21 01:06 PM] Fluffy#5319 WHat is this? [05-Feb-21 01:06 PM] shotfan#6872 Wait a little... [05-Feb-21 01:06 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807190434946088980/2021-02-04_23.49.21.png [05-Feb-21 01:06 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807190500703600650/2021-02-04_23.49.35.png [05-Feb-21 01:07 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807190551027384340/2021-02-04_23.49.52.png [05-Feb-21 01:07 PM] Fluffy#5319 Lothar is trying really hard to not answer your question by posting so much [05-Feb-21 01:07 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807190619134885908/2021-02-04_23.50.10.png [05-Feb-21 01:07 PM] shotfan#6872 Yup, that is what I thought too. [05-Feb-21 01:07 PM] shotfan#6872 He pulled an EDI on me, thinking I will fuck off. [05-Feb-21 01:08 PM] Fluffy#5319 What's Lothar responsible for anyways? [05-Feb-21 01:08 PM] Fluffy#5319 I forgot [05-Feb-21 01:08 PM] shotfan#6872 Too bad buddy, you were casually talking that day on your server elsewhere, and even looking to play Quake 3. [05-Feb-21 01:08 PM] shotfan#6872 So much for being so occupied with your studies. [05-Feb-21 01:08 PM] Raov#2531 holy fuck thats a ton [05-Feb-21 01:09 PM] shotfan#6872 That is the end of the second batch. [05-Feb-21 01:09 PM] shotfan#6872 The final one is the material I have from the conversation with YourpalZ3R0, another Schism moderator. Just a few. [05-Feb-21 01:10 PM] Fluffy#5319 But i'm pretty sure lister is trying to ally with brutal doom modders [05-Feb-21 01:11 PM] Fluffy#5319 In order to promote his thing [05-Feb-21 01:11 PM] Fluffy#5319 It's all very stupid [05-Feb-21 01:11 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807191666062262303/400139200762_146501.jpg [05-Feb-21 01:11 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807191705987973130/IMG_20210203_165613_558.jpg [05-Feb-21 01:12 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807191800644501534/Screenshot_2021-02-03-14-17-51.png [05-Feb-21 01:12 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807191944752267294/Screenshot_2021-02-03-14-18-28.png [05-Feb-21 01:12 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807192008691154944/Screenshot_2021-02-03-14-27-01.png [05-Feb-21 01:12 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807192030794874890/Screenshot_2021-02-03-14-40-49.png [05-Feb-21 01:13 PM] shotfan#6872 That is all. [05-Feb-21 01:14 PM] Fluffy#5319 So I guess the conclusion is the lothar is lister's buddy or something [05-Feb-21 01:14 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 What a putrid individual [05-Feb-21 01:15 PM] shotfan#6872 Not just any "buddy". [05-Feb-21 01:15 PM] shotfan#6872 I suspect that Lothar tries to cover Lister's back. [05-Feb-21 01:16 PM] Fluffy#5319 Also think more people will be involved in this, it'll eventually hit the entire doom community [05-Feb-21 01:16 PM] shotfan#6872 First, he threatens everyone one the server with a ban if the discussion Lister started is continued, then he refrains from punishing Lister. [05-Feb-21 01:16 PM] Frax314#7488 90 messages???? [05-Feb-21 01:17 PM] shotfan#6872 I should have kicked Lister's ass out of the server when I got the chance, but I got confused and I was in hurry so I he got away scotfree, dammit. [05-Feb-21 01:17 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah... that much happened. [05-Feb-21 01:18 PM] shotfan#6872 (he got away of course) [05-Feb-21 01:18 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Silver lining is more documentation opportunities whenever Lister gets shirty in the chat. [05-Feb-21 01:18 PM] Frax314#7488 He quit the server? [05-Feb-21 01:18 PM] shotfan#6872 And of course, the fact that Lister tries to do his laundry not on his server is repulsive enough. [05-Feb-21 01:19 PM] Fluffy#5319 Everybody needs to understand what lister is really attempting, even lothar, or maybe he already knows [05-Feb-21 01:19 PM] shotfan#6872 That most funny think is that Lister does all of this without any provocation from on the part of anyone on the Schism server. [05-Feb-21 01:20 PM] Fluffy#5319 I also spot people like eagle there [05-Feb-21 01:20 PM] Fluffy#5319 Probably cos many there are involved with LSD [05-Feb-21 01:20 PM] shotfan#6872 As he tries to behave like the place is his private court because of his clout on Lothar, he is just making his situation worse. [05-Feb-21 01:21 PM] shotfan#6872 What a buffoon. [05-Feb-21 01:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Most bigger people in the LSD server is in Schism. [05-Feb-21 01:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, I never saw Lothar act that slimy, very pathetic [05-Feb-21 01:21 PM] Fluffy#5319 Btw [05-Feb-21 01:21 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Rofl, I'm still being mentioned. [05-Feb-21 01:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Then he goes to DMs with Zero, thinking he will have even more power in one-on-one conversation, and basically threatens him. [05-Feb-21 01:22 PM] Fluffy#5319 shotfan how much does the schism server mean to you? [05-Feb-21 01:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Fortunately Zero is not an idiot, and is a buddy of mine in turn 😄 [05-Feb-21 01:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Zero does not know for now, but he is supicious of Lister and Lothar already. [05-Feb-21 01:23 PM] shotfan#6872 @Fluffy Not much. [05-Feb-21 01:23 PM] Fluffy#5319 ok [05-Feb-21 01:24 PM] shotfan#6872 I am ready to get the fuck out of there today if Lothar tries some underhanded tactic on me as I try to press him on the question he is still dodging. [05-Feb-21 01:24 PM] Fluffy#5319 Maybe just ignore everything about lister and continue to be there if you can [05-Feb-21 01:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Ace Moderator: Shotfan [05-Feb-21 01:24 PM] Frax314#7488 👌 [05-Feb-21 01:24 PM] Fluffy#5319 it's obvious that lothar wants to keep him there [05-Feb-21 01:25 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Given Doomkrakken's accurate description of Listeronum as subscriptionware, I highly doubt that any large portion of the Doom community would be sympathetic of Lister or his actions [05-Feb-21 01:25 PM] shotfan#6872 So, what do you think would be the best course of action? [05-Feb-21 01:25 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Especially when all of his homophobic comments get wider attention. [05-Feb-21 01:25 PM] shotfan#6872 Risk a ban by invoking the collusion question again, or keep hushhush and observe? [05-Feb-21 01:26 PM] Fluffy#5319 Maybe wait for him to pull another shitshow, talk through the mods in the staff channel and boot him out [05-Feb-21 01:26 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean. If Lothar is that slimy, you should not be with him [05-Feb-21 01:26 PM] Frax314#7488 So push forward I believe [05-Feb-21 01:26 PM] Frax314#7488 Wouldn't you agree? [05-Feb-21 01:26 PM] Fluffy#5319 That or if you were intending to leave the server then make sure to get as much out of lothar as possible [05-Feb-21 01:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, shotfan... I think I have an useful screenshot to corner him. [05-Feb-21 01:27 PM] shotfan#6872 That is what I was thinking as I have been collecting these screenshots, Frax. [05-Feb-21 01:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Lemme take it [05-Feb-21 01:27 PM] Frax314#7488 From the man himself Lister [05-Feb-21 01:27 PM] Fluffy#5319 Doomkrakkan is also there and he also knows what's up [05-Feb-21 01:27 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I'd say keep it low until the next big incident. If Lothar tries all he can to keep Lister on board in spite of blantant rule-breaking and multiple warnings, I think your question will have been answered on the relationship between the two. [05-Feb-21 01:28 PM] Fluffy#5319 ^ [05-Feb-21 01:28 PM] Frax314#7488 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807195942872547359/20210205_112814.jpg [05-Feb-21 01:28 PM] Frax314#7488 If nothing works [05-Feb-21 01:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Use this nuke [05-Feb-21 01:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Lister clearly pointing at Lothar [05-Feb-21 01:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Tell us when you choose [05-Feb-21 01:31 PM] Frax314#7488 I'm off everything Doom so you can just say I gave them to you noticing you were moderator on Schism [05-Feb-21 01:32 PM] Fluffy#5319 Are you still a mod there shotfan? [05-Feb-21 01:32 PM] Fluffy#5319 As well as doomkrakkan? [05-Feb-21 01:33 PM] Frax314#7488 Krakken is not a moderator there iirc [05-Feb-21 01:34 PM] Frax314#7488 Just has the Legend role... like Lister. [05-Feb-21 01:34 PM] Fluffy#5319 Oh ok [05-Feb-21 01:34 PM] Frax314#7488 No perks, only golden name. [05-Feb-21 01:35 PM] shotfan#6872 I am still a moderator there, yeah. [05-Feb-21 01:35 PM] Fluffy#5319 I swear if I could send a message to all brutal doomers it would be to stay the hell away from lister [05-Feb-21 01:36 PM] shotfan#6872 DoomKrakken has a Legend role, which is a honorary badge to fellow Doom modders. [05-Feb-21 01:36 PM] Frax314#7488 ~~...not like they deserve it--~~ [05-Feb-21 01:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Jk [05-Feb-21 01:36 PM] shotfan#6872 He is not a moderator. [05-Feb-21 01:36 PM] Fluffy#5319 bruh [05-Feb-21 01:36 PM] shotfan#6872 That is why he contacted Zero in DMs. [05-Feb-21 01:36 PM] Fluffy#5319 I see [05-Feb-21 01:37 PM] shotfan#6872 I need to think. [05-Feb-21 01:37 PM] shotfan#6872 I will let you know later what I am going to do. [05-Feb-21 01:37 PM] Frax314#7488 So what is happening rn in the server? Is it calm or are they all still arguing? [05-Feb-21 01:37 PM] Fluffy#5319 Lothar hasn't removed your mod role yet which is surprising [05-Feb-21 01:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Just to know [05-Feb-21 01:42 PM] shotfan#6872 Calm. [05-Feb-21 01:42 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar apparently treats me as an idiot. [05-Feb-21 01:43 PM] shotfan#6872 I will be later, I will have to decide what to do with him. [05-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Frax314#7488 All right. [06-Feb-21 02:07 AM] shotfan#6872 Great, I was busy practically the whole day and now it is night. [06-Feb-21 02:08 AM] shotfan#6872 Anyways, I am intending to confront Lothar tomorrow in this case. [06-Feb-21 02:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Feeling like this sting operation's reaching its climax [06-Feb-21 02:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I knew Anime Punk being in the EOA server meant no good [06-Feb-21 02:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 He's still there iirc [06-Feb-21 02:35 AM] shotfan#6872 Who? [06-Feb-21 02:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Anime punk [06-Feb-21 02:36 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 The guy who got punted off Secreta for being a cunt [06-Feb-21 02:38 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But anyways, Since a full-on Doom modder's beginning to piss on the hole Lister's dug himself into then I feel this is the prime moment where the rest of the community begins to know [06-Feb-21 02:38 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Either that or Krakken gets doxxed 😐 [06-Feb-21 02:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Well I mean at least we know where to go to get a few drinks with him after all of this shit's over [06-Feb-21 02:39 AM] shotfan#6872 How they can do that? [06-Feb-21 02:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 They'll find a way [06-Feb-21 02:41 AM] shotfan#6872 I am tired of scammers poisoning gaming communities. [06-Feb-21 02:41 AM] shotfan#6872 They should crawl back to their holes. [06-Feb-21 03:11 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Don't worry. If Krakken does indeed get doxxed, I'm positive that the rest of the Doom community will descend upon lister and his crony cabal like a pack of hungry wolves. [06-Feb-21 03:26 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And then after that we can visit his place for a coupl'a beers [06-Feb-21 04:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so uh [06-Feb-21 04:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 anything else happened [06-Feb-21 06:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah shotfan ain't logging in... [06-Feb-21 07:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 shit [06-Feb-21 07:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 that's a problem [06-Feb-21 07:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wonder where did he go [06-Feb-21 07:05 PM] Frax314#7488 I think he'll just log in later... [06-Feb-21 08:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Here I am. [06-Feb-21 08:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Before I do a move, I need to do a question here. [06-Feb-21 08:23 PM] shotfan#6872 What exactly is illegal in Listerium? [06-Feb-21 08:24 PM] shotfan#6872 You said that selling it breaks GPL-2? [06-Feb-21 09:36 PM] shotfan#6872 Or is it general GPL? [06-Feb-21 09:37 PM] shotfan#6872 It is about the requirement of publishing source code of anything that is to be sold? [06-Feb-21 09:37 PM] Frax314#7488 The GPL-2 license says you cannot sell stuff made by forking without opening the source, yes. [06-Feb-21 09:38 PM] Frax314#7488 It corners Lister, because he has to either make the port free or release the source. [06-Feb-21 09:38 PM] shotfan#6872 So Doom sourceports now fall under GPL-2? [06-Feb-21 09:38 PM] Frax314#7488 ZDoom derivatives, yes. [06-Feb-21 09:38 PM] Frax314#7488 There are two different releases of the Doom source code with different licenses, but the one ZDoom forked off of was the GPL-2 one. [06-Feb-21 09:41 PM] Frax314#7488 What have you decided to do? [06-Feb-21 09:41 PM] shotfan#6872 ``For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights.`` [06-Feb-21 09:41 PM] shotfan#6872 This, you mean? [06-Feb-21 09:42 PM] shotfan#6872 https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html#SEC3 [06-Feb-21 09:42 PM] Frax314#7488 Polyzium told me as much [06-Feb-21 09:43 PM] shotfan#6872 I suppose that the preamble is lawfully valid. [06-Feb-21 09:43 PM] shotfan#6872 I want to go and ask Lothar what the intends to do about Lister doing his crap on the server. [06-Feb-21 09:44 PM] shotfan#6872 However, I am not intending to use the nuclear option you gave me yet. [06-Feb-21 09:44 PM] Frax314#7488 Just a warning, he fully approves Li$ter's *gloating* [06-Feb-21 09:45 PM] Frax314#7488 In fact he partakes in the circlejerk in the russian channel of Schism [06-Feb-21 09:45 PM] Frax314#7488 And they actively mock their playground enemies there [06-Feb-21 09:46 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah yeah, I do not expect him to change his mind. [06-Feb-21 09:46 PM] shotfan#6872 Does not help that I do not understand Cyrillic languages. [06-Feb-21 09:47 PM] shotfan#6872 I feel that they might be talking behind the backs of the non-Cyrillic speaking staff with impunity. [06-Feb-21 09:50 PM] Frax314#7488 They certainly do. [06-Feb-21 09:50 PM] Frax314#7488 You can use Google Translate. [06-Feb-21 09:50 PM] Frax314#7488 It worked for me. [06-Feb-21 09:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Some are broken, but quite a few [06-Feb-21 09:51 PM] Frax314#7488 are actually understandable! [06-Feb-21 09:55 PM] shotfan#6872 Here we go. I asked Lothar just now. Will see what is his response. [06-Feb-21 10:02 PM] Frax314#7488 ***inb4 he bans you on the spot*** [06-Feb-21 10:05 PM] shotfan#6872 Silence. [06-Feb-21 10:05 PM] shotfan#6872 Figures. [06-Feb-21 10:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Unless he is not online...? [06-Feb-21 10:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Or AFK. [06-Feb-21 10:05 PM] shotfan#6872 He is online, I checked. [06-Feb-21 10:05 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 AFK457 [06-Feb-21 10:05 PM] shotfan#6872 He has been active today. [06-Feb-21 10:06 PM] shotfan#6872 And this is Saturday. [06-Feb-21 10:06 PM] shotfan#6872 He really likes soap operas it seems. [06-Feb-21 10:07 PM] shotfan#6872 But he is not fooling anyone... [06-Feb-21 10:08 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Mayonnaise > Soap operas [06-Feb-21 10:09 PM] shotfan#6872 Maybe he is having an emergency meeting with Lister and his cronies, haha [06-Feb-21 10:10 PM] Raov#2531 mf sus [06-Feb-21 10:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Lothar sus!!!!! [06-Feb-21 10:10 PM] Frax314#7488 [AMONG US MOMENTS] [06-Feb-21 10:11 PM] Raov#2531 [AMONG US MOMENTS] LOTHAR SUS? (TURNED GAY) (TURNED SUS) (DEAD BODY FOUND IN O2) [06-Feb-21 10:16 PM] shotfan#6872 Response: he will read the shit I posted on screenshots now. [06-Feb-21 10:16 PM] shotfan#6872 Another time buying bluff again? [06-Feb-21 10:23 PM] Frax314#7488 What does that even mean? I don't get it [06-Feb-21 10:25 PM] Frax314#7488 He says he'll chide Li$ter later? [06-Feb-21 10:29 PM] shotfan#6872 So he said he had read that, and he wanted another question about it. [06-Feb-21 10:29 PM] shotfan#6872 So I sent him this: [06-Feb-21 10:29 PM] shotfan#6872 ``What do you intend to do with a guy that: - Broke rule II by misusing our server for slandering people in public; - Broke rule IV by insulting Doomkrakken and Zero; - Is a repeat offender to using our server to do witchhunts on his bad publicity; - Made vague threats via DMs to one of our moderators, Zero; And, you still have not explained why he calls you your "buddy" in this tract?(edited) `` [06-Feb-21 10:29 PM] shotfan#6872 Looks like he is trying to gauge my stance, and what I can possibly know about his deals with Lister. [06-Feb-21 10:33 PM] Frax314#7488 Hmm [06-Feb-21 10:35 PM] Frax314#7488 Keep low profil e and give no clues until he threatens you with ban or demotion or whatever [06-Feb-21 10:36 PM] shotfan#6872 Mind you, I am conducting this conversation in the staff channel, so everyone maintaining the server can see it. [06-Feb-21 10:37 PM] shotfan#6872 I am not giving him the comfort of DMs. [06-Feb-21 10:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Very well [06-Feb-21 10:37 PM] shotfan#6872 He is probably doing another counsel with Lister as we speak. [06-Feb-21 10:37 PM] Frax314#7488 If you can, at least copy the message history from the original inquiry onwards on a text file, it might help [06-Feb-21 10:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, no screenshots available for me this time. [06-Feb-21 10:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Give me a moment [06-Feb-21 10:42 PM] shotfan#6872 Alright, captured the new messages to Word. The rest of the relevant stuff from this channel I had already saved on the screenshots I relayed here yesterday. [06-Feb-21 10:42 PM] shotfan#6872 And still no response... [06-Feb-21 10:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Does someone have an ominous thriller theme to play here? 😄 [06-Feb-21 10:44 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh wait. Are you 100% certain all other moderators will agree to you pushing Lothar about that, or could at least one of them be part of the Lister group? [06-Feb-21 10:46 PM] shotfan#6872 I have no such support, nope. [06-Feb-21 10:46 PM] shotfan#6872 Only Zero does. [06-Feb-21 10:46 PM] shotfan#6872 I am on good terms with two more max, the rest I do not know well. [06-Feb-21 10:47 PM] Frax314#7488 No I don't mean necessarily support, just that nobody will object [06-Feb-21 10:47 PM] shotfan#6872 Nobody else is picking up the bone. [06-Feb-21 10:47 PM] shotfan#6872 Neither pro or contra. [06-Feb-21 10:47 PM] Frax314#7488 Fine enough [06-Feb-21 10:48 PM] shotfan#6872 Again, only Zero bothered to support me one time, as I have on that screenshot I posted yesterday. ("ANSWER THE QUESTION MASON") [06-Feb-21 10:48 PM] shotfan#6872 If Lothar freaks out and bans me, I am considering asking Zero to be my informer from that point. [06-Feb-21 10:49 PM] Frax314#7488 I noticed Lister talks like a broken record [06-Feb-21 10:49 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah no shit [06-Feb-21 10:49 PM] shotfan#6872 I NO KNOW ENRISHU WELLO [06-Feb-21 10:49 PM] shotfan#6872 Well fuck off, just like Bluuwolfy said. [06-Feb-21 10:51 PM] Frax314#7488 What wou ld you do if he just decides to sleep on it indefinitely? [06-Feb-21 10:54 PM] shotfan#6872 Call out on his extended time bullshit, use more arguments, demand a vote (we do votes for kicks and bans)... [06-Feb-21 10:55 PM] shotfan#6872 He might be trying to capitalize on the fact that I am the only one bothering him, intending to outlast me again. [06-Feb-21 10:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Well, no such luck... [06-Feb-21 10:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Anyways, I need to do a short break. I will be back in about half an hour. [06-Feb-21 11:00 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright [06-Feb-21 11:32 PM] shotfan#6872 BULLSHIT [06-Feb-21 11:32 PM] shotfan#6872 ``Well I didn't see that he call me buddy, can't find it literally [21:01] however, generally, nothing. I'll talk to him, but I'm not sure that punishing him will be a good move. Actually, I'm almost sure it will be bad move. [21:03] also I'd like to see his DM with @YourpalZ3R0`` [06-Feb-21 11:32 PM] shotfan#6872 FUCKING BULLSHIT [06-Feb-21 11:33 PM] Raov#2531 bull [06-Feb-21 11:33 PM] Raov#2531 shit [06-Feb-21 11:33 PM] shotfan#6872 You now "cannot" find a "buddy", huh? [06-Feb-21 11:34 PM] Raov#2531 what the fuck even is this [06-Feb-21 11:34 PM] Raov#2531 "im almost sure it will be a bad move" [06-Feb-21 11:35 PM] Raov#2531 a bad move was keeping you around as a mod [06-Feb-21 11:49 PM] shotfan#6872 I spoonfed him the screenshots. [06-Feb-21 11:49 PM] Frax314#7488 Bullshit May Drop: Special Edition [06-Feb-21 11:50 PM] shotfan#6872 Including the one where Doomkrakken claims that he tried to warn Lothar about Lister's scam. [06-Feb-21 11:50 PM] shotfan#6872 Translate me this: Тебе не стоит копать так далеко... [06-Feb-21 11:51 PM] Frax314#7488 @Raov can... lemme use google tho [06-Feb-21 11:51 PM] Raov#2531 Nah I'm here [06-Feb-21 11:51 PM] Raov#2531 "You shouldn't dig [yourself a grave] this far/deep..." [06-Feb-21 11:51 PM] shotfan#6872 HAHAHHAHAHHAHA [06-Feb-21 11:51 PM] shotfan#6872 Dreo wrote this, one of devs of Schism [06-Feb-21 11:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah that is what I found too [06-Feb-21 11:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Dreo... Dreo Dreo Dreo... can't quite put my fi mg er on it but I believe he was in the LSD server. [06-Feb-21 11:53 PM] Frax314#7488 What does it refer to? [06-Feb-21 11:56 PM] shotfan#6872 ``Why are you letting him pull this shit on Zero? [21:47] Why are you letting him go free after all this shit he pulled in here?`` [06-Feb-21 11:56 PM] shotfan#6872 This is what I wrote after the screendump. To this Dreo replied with this threat. [06-Feb-21 11:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Cat is out of the bag. [06-Feb-21 11:57 PM] Frax314#7488 Wait wait, why did he use russian then? [06-Feb-21 11:57 PM] Raov#2531 Idfk [06-Feb-21 11:58 PM] Frax314#7488 What if he is talking to Lothar about his unsafe policies? [06-Feb-21 11:58 PM] Frax314#7488 In mean in his slimeballing [06-Feb-21 11:58 PM] shotfan#6872 No idea, Lothar is silent. [06-Feb-21 11:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Zero joined the conversation in the meantime. [06-Feb-21 11:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Now Dreo denied that being a threat when Zero asked him about that Russian quote. [06-Feb-21 11:59 PM] Frax314#7488 Great [07-Feb-21 12:00 AM] Raov#2531 Except it's a full on fucking threat [07-Feb-21 12:00 AM] Frax314#7488 You can attempt saying a russian friend translated it for you [07-Feb-21 12:00 AM] Frax314#7488 and calling him out on that bs [07-Feb-21 12:01 AM] shotfan#6872 I am playing ignorance. [07-Feb-21 12:01 AM] shotfan#6872 Not sure what to do now. [07-Feb-21 12:01 AM] Raov#2531 Tomorrow I got a whole day free, do we go offensive? [07-Feb-21 12:01 AM] shotfan#6872 I may press on and ask him what he wants about Doomkrakken's claims that Lister himself reposted. [07-Feb-21 12:02 AM] Frax314#7488 The russian threat definitely sticks out imho, egen I would reseach that oddity [07-Feb-21 12:02 AM] shotfan#6872 And I still have that screenshot Frax gave me as the final attack. [07-Feb-21 12:02 AM] Frax314#7488 You can call out Dreo without arousing direct suspicion to knowing more than you seem to [07-Feb-21 12:02 AM] shotfan#6872 I already called him out on using Russian in an English channel. [07-Feb-21 12:03 AM] shotfan#6872 I think that is enough. [07-Feb-21 12:03 AM] Frax314#7488 I guess so, you can't just backtrack like that [07-Feb-21 12:03 AM] shotfan#6872 They know I do not read Cyrillic. [07-Feb-21 12:03 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 Some of us do here [07-Feb-21 12:03 AM] shotfan#6872 But I know Slav. [07-Feb-21 12:04 AM] shotfan#6872 If you get what I mean. [07-Feb-21 12:04 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 Blyat [07-Feb-21 12:04 AM] Frax314#7488 What was my screenshot about again? I forgot ._. [07-Feb-21 12:04 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 Oof [07-Feb-21 12:04 AM] Frax314#7488 lul [07-Feb-21 12:05 AM] shotfan#6872 (pinned) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807718520011620422/20210205_112814.jpg [07-Feb-21 12:05 AM] shotfan#6872 Zero is getting suspicious too. [07-Feb-21 12:05 AM] shotfan#6872 Just said so to me via DM. [07-Feb-21 12:05 AM] shotfan#6872 I am not letting him know for now. [07-Feb-21 12:06 AM] shotfan#6872 Dreo again: У этой особи, пассивная агрессия на этот вид [07-Feb-21 12:06 AM] Raov#2531 We on it baby {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807718861109198889/Screenshot_20210207_020613_org.mozilla.firefox.jpg [07-Feb-21 12:06 AM] Raov#2531 I can probably get his real name from there [07-Feb-21 12:06 AM] Frax314#7488 Kekw [07-Feb-21 12:06 AM] Frax314#7488 but translate Dreo's thing now, it's important likely [07-Feb-21 12:06 AM] Raov#2531 or not {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807718995129270338/Screenshot_20210207_020649.jpg [07-Feb-21 12:07 AM] Raov#2531 "This species (singular) has a passive aggressive attitude towards this type." [07-Feb-21 12:07 AM] Raov#2531 Not sure what he meant by that [07-Feb-21 12:08 AM] Frax314#7488 He is basically mocking shotfan. [07-Feb-21 12:08 AM] Raov#2531 Btw translation is not very accurate [07-Feb-21 12:08 AM] Frax314#7488 Calling him an animal basically, if I may... [07-Feb-21 12:08 AM] Raov#2531 Yeah that fits [07-Feb-21 12:09 AM] Raov#2531 Okay the profile seems to be deleted [07-Feb-21 12:11 AM] shotfan#6872 Yeah sure [07-Feb-21 12:11 AM] shotfan#6872 Call me a subhuman [07-Feb-21 12:11 AM] shotfan#6872 I guess that Nazis taught you the concept? [07-Feb-21 12:12 AM] Frax314#7488 Anythi ng after that? [07-Feb-21 12:12 AM] shotfan#6872 Zero came with the same translation there. [07-Feb-21 12:12 AM] shotfan#6872 He brought Coole there and ordered him to read everything. [07-Feb-21 12:13 AM] shotfan#6872 Maybe I should do a group ping of moderators? [07-Feb-21 12:13 AM] Frax314#7488 Don't just yet [07-Feb-21 12:13 AM] shotfan#6872 Alright. [07-Feb-21 12:14 AM] Frax314#7488 Unless you are 100% sure they will protect you over Dreo [07-Feb-21 12:14 AM] shotfan#6872 Nope. [07-Feb-21 12:14 AM] shotfan#6872 I have no insurance. [07-Feb-21 12:15 AM] Frax314#7488 Very convenient Zero did it [07-Feb-21 12:15 AM] Frax314#7488 You'll be both not that suspicious AND have the perks of being able to call Dreo out on his trickery [07-Feb-21 12:17 AM] shotfan#6872 ``I just want to know why are we doing nothing about this *individual*?`` [07-Feb-21 12:17 AM] Raov#2531 I GOT IT BABY [07-Feb-21 12:18 AM] Frax314#7488 Is what you asked him again? [07-Feb-21 12:19 AM] Raov#2531 (pinned) Real name: Andrei Yuklyaevskiy, lives in Rostov-Na-Donu [07-Feb-21 12:20 AM] Raov#2531 Yall can drop the bomb on him at any time [07-Feb-21 12:21 AM] Raov#2531 Okay there are other matches [07-Feb-21 12:21 AM] Raov#2531 Like Anton Prihozhiy in Moscow [07-Feb-21 12:22 AM] Raov#2531 And Yevgeniy Anisimov in Murmansk [07-Feb-21 12:22 AM] Frax314#7488 Pinned a message. [07-Feb-21 12:23 AM] Frax314#7488 Sonuva, why don't ya get a job as a detecti ve???? [07-Feb-21 12:23 AM] Frax314#7488 Grand job [07-Feb-21 12:24 AM] Raov#2531 Checking the websites the image was found on rn [07-Feb-21 12:24 AM] Frax314#7488 Any updates shotfan? [07-Feb-21 12:26 AM] Raov#2531 Yevgeniy might be a better match [07-Feb-21 12:26 AM] Raov#2531 Found one of his profiles on a Russian social network, asked for some >115 level players [07-Feb-21 12:26 AM] Raov#2531 And knowing a Twitter acc with his nickname had a fuck ton of game posts [07-Feb-21 12:27 AM] Raov#2531 It is way more likely [07-Feb-21 12:27 AM] Raov#2531 That we got a match [07-Feb-21 12:27 AM] Frax314#7488 Which games [07-Feb-21 12:27 AM] Raov#2531 Idfk some tower defense [07-Feb-21 12:27 AM] Frax314#7488 That is fundamental [07-Feb-21 12:27 AM] Frax314#7488 Hmmmmmm [07-Feb-21 12:27 AM] Raov#2531 Btw DoB: December 25th 1984 [07-Feb-21 12:27 AM] Frax314#7488 I don't recall him liking Tower Defense im any shape or form [07-Feb-21 12:28 AM] Frax314#7488 In fact he is a huge fan of "protect yourself"... [07-Feb-21 12:29 AM] Raov#2531 Lister149 was his nickname right [07-Feb-21 12:30 AM] Raov#2531 @Frax314 the game is paradise island [07-Feb-21 12:30 AM] Raov#2531 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807724876675809340/Screenshot_20210207_023012_com.twitter.android.jpg [07-Feb-21 12:30 AM] Frax314#7488 Judt Li$ter. Sometimes with *s at the beginning and end [07-Feb-21 12:30 AM] Frax314#7488 But never a number [07-Feb-21 12:30 AM] Raov#2531 I found some other nicknames related to him with maltego [07-Feb-21 12:30 AM] Frax314#7488 Also that... DEFINITELY isn't a game he 'd pla y. [07-Feb-21 12:31 AM] Frax314#7488 But abything more in Schism @shotfan? [07-Feb-21 12:31 AM] Raov#2531 He also plays Dead Defense on Facebook apparently [07-Feb-21 12:32 AM] Raov#2531 Well this is his account {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807725339103068221/Screenshot_20210207_023114.jpg [07-Feb-21 12:32 AM] Raov#2531 Fake name and handle check out [07-Feb-21 12:33 AM] Raov#2531 And both his VK and Twitter profiles have a similar date of their first post [07-Feb-21 12:35 AM] Raov#2531 Okay, found a vk profile with a matching name and picture [07-Feb-21 12:35 AM] Raov#2531 But it's a different guy [07-Feb-21 12:35 AM] Raov#2531 He's got 8.9k followers [07-Feb-21 12:35 AM] Raov#2531 Lister definitely can't have that much [07-Feb-21 12:35 AM] Raov#2531 Especially if it's his private acc [07-Feb-21 12:36 AM] Frax314#7488 Tbf, I doubt Lister uses that nickname outside of Doom. [07-Feb-21 12:36 AM] Raov#2531 You never know, it was 9 years ago [07-Feb-21 12:36 AM] Frax314#7488 FYI if you see Monster Hunter yiu hit the jackpot. [07-Feb-21 12:37 AM] Raov#2531 Got it [07-Feb-21 12:37 AM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, that is what I replied to Dreo. [07-Feb-21 12:38 AM] shotfan#6872 Lothar is writing right now [07-Feb-21 12:38 AM] Raov#2531 Hm second image he has on his acc is of some American guy [07-Feb-21 12:38 AM] Raov#2531 So definitely out of question [07-Feb-21 12:38 AM] Frax314#7488 ~~ON THE NEXT EPISODE OF DRAGONBALL Z~~ [07-Feb-21 12:39 AM] Raov#2531 Lmao [07-Feb-21 12:39 AM] shotfan#6872 Welcome to the worst soap opera in the Doom community! [07-Feb-21 12:39 AM] Frax314#7488 Soup opera is morw accurate lol [07-Feb-21 12:41 AM] shotfan#6872 IKR [07-Feb-21 12:41 AM] shotfan#6872 Coole has said nothing... [07-Feb-21 12:42 AM] shotfan#6872 Well, I guess he is not going to support me. [07-Feb-21 12:42 AM] Frax314#7488 Wait wait. Coole is the guy wirh the knigjt pfp that:s qquite close to Lothar right? [07-Feb-21 12:42 AM] Frax314#7488 or is he farther fro m him than I think? [07-Feb-21 12:44 AM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, the same crusader-type avatar, also an administrator. [07-Feb-21 12:45 AM] shotfan#6872 He has known Lothar for some time. [07-Feb-21 12:45 AM] shotfan#6872 Hard to gauge for me how close they are. [07-Feb-21 12:45 AM] Frax314#7488 Hmmmmmm, I am not sure but maybe I saw him om the LSD swrver... THE PLOT THICKENS [07-Feb-21 12:45 AM] shotfan#6872 But he is notable for being the only one to consistently criticize how the server is maintained. [07-Feb-21 12:46 AM] shotfan#6872 Stuff like not sufficient moderation, channel mess, and so on. [07-Feb-21 12:46 AM] shotfan#6872 But I do not know if he is a part of the collusion with Lister. [07-Feb-21 12:46 AM] shotfan#6872 He is Ukrainian, BTW. He makes no secret of that fact. [07-Feb-21 12:46 AM] Frax314#7488 Hmmmm [07-Feb-21 12:46 AM] shotfan#6872 He also likes trams *very* much. [07-Feb-21 12:48 AM] Raov#2531 Okay I'm going to head out for the night [07-Feb-21 12:48 AM] Raov#2531 Not much I can do in terms of deanonymization on a phone [07-Feb-21 12:48 AM] Raov#2531 And I'm tired too [07-Feb-21 12:48 AM] Raov#2531 Gn [07-Feb-21 12:49 AM] shotfan#6872 AHHHHHHHH [07-Feb-21 12:49 AM] shotfan#6872 We are just getting to the best part! [07-Feb-21 12:49 AM] shotfan#6872 You are not going to fucking believe it! [07-Feb-21 12:50 AM] Frax314#7488 sweet dreams chad [07-Feb-21 12:50 AM] shotfan#6872 What a fucking wall of text Lothar is posting [07-Feb-21 12:50 AM] Frax314#7488 Also what bullshit did he spew shotfan? [07-Feb-21 12:50 AM] shotfan#6872 Hold on [07-Feb-21 12:51 AM] Frax314#7488 Maybe a wall... or maybe a carefully -made straw. [07-Feb-21 12:51 AM] shotfan#6872 Jesus [07-Feb-21 12:52 AM] shotfan#6872 I need to chop this shit to fit under the character limit [07-Feb-21 12:52 AM] shotfan#6872 (pinned) ``Just to be clear - Lister will stay here, he have special ability to do so. I'll explain why. I've seen his mod and his maps, both are absolutely fucking outstanding in matter of complexity and hacker value, that's true that no one in community is capable to do such things like he and his guys. I haven't seen his sourceport, but Lister is actually russian hacker, no shit, and I know that this thing is his passion, and he will give 100% of his skill and effort in it. He reworked Zandronum and GZDoom port in such way that his port have BOTH ZScript compatibility and fine optimized multiplayer, what in fact make his port actually killer of GZDoom and Zandronum (unless he will make it badly paid one). As well as he made this port work with multiple CPU cores and streams, not like GZDoom which use only one core and one stream. In same time he intended to collaborate with Painkiller (autor of PB) and Sergeant Mk IV in matter of providing multiplayer support of thier mods in his port - he calls it "authorisation". And I know that things he offer them will be much more valuable than fate of few random people like MiFu and others who crossed a way to Lister. I do know what will be the price for it, and this price will change powers in discord communities, because all this people who was against Lister and who spread rumors about him as one who doxing people and stuff, will have no place to hide in most of Doom related discords.`` [07-Feb-21 12:52 AM] shotfan#6872 ``[22:43] He is black horse on derby, most of people absolutely underestimating who the fuck he is, but sooner or later all will discover it. [22:46] Speaking of me and him - when I met him in russian doom community, first few weeks I just only talk with him on his own language, talking back to him in same offensive way he uses all the time, however he intrigued me and I gave a try to LSD, and must admit - in matter of code this mod is fucking something. No one is near to it in matter of complexity of gameplay mechanic and tricks in code. And they are proud of it. But Clusterfuck guys says that LSD guys steal something from them, when there is material evidences that Clusterfuck guys in fact steals by LSD guys (yes, I've seen it by my own eyes), and there is major drama about it [22:47] Because CF team accuses LSD team in stealing when in fact all the thing is fucking opposite. [22:48] `` [07-Feb-21 12:53 AM] shotfan#6872 ``And Lister is somehow sociopath who don't give a fuck about community and all other people and do whatever he want and with 0 care about feelings of people don't respected by him. [22:49] Also he and thier guys are watching over most of doom discords (CF, PB, BD, this one, and Embers of Armaggedon one) and collecting screens of things told about him and LSD in general. Only few people are aware about it, but I am. Lister was triggered by words said by DoomKrakken, and the shit begun [22:51] I know that Lister is literally renegade in community, because no one can stand his attitude, but I personally have respect to him because his works, and I think things happened to him because of all this rumors and stuff are unfair. NEW [22:51] All you guys know that Sergeant Mk IV is fucking banned from all doom forums. Is it fair? For me - no, not even fucking near to be fair. `` [07-Feb-21 12:53 AM] Frax314#7488 If he explains Listeronum to you... Just react genuin ely, I guess. As pissed as you were when I tokd you [07-Feb-21 12:53 AM] shotfan#6872 What the actual shit [07-Feb-21 12:53 AM] shotfan#6872 He is sucking his dick [07-Feb-21 12:53 AM] shotfan#6872 or ducking, whatever the fuck [07-Feb-21 12:54 AM] shotfan#6872 What a piece of idolatry [07-Feb-21 12:54 AM] shotfan#6872 Classic "he has one notable skill, that is why he can be an asshole" [07-Feb-21 12:55 AM] shotfan#6872 I need to piece my thoughts together [07-Feb-21 12:57 AM] shotfan#6872 ``Same with Lister. I know that he is banned from most of doom discords, and that's why I won't ban or kick him from Schism - because I don't want to be same degenerate as them. Yes, I don't like all mess and shit drama he making here from time to time, however for me it's question of greater justice to give him a place here despite his sins and words. [22:54] Also fun fact, I was in Clusterfuck discord, and was banned from it because of just literally fucking small talk about BLM [22:54] In which I said that George Floyd shouldn't be treat as hero. [22:54] They banned me because of it and delete all the messages about it. NEW [22:56] Another example - fucking @Lead Programmer of Schism was banned on PB until I warned PB mods that it's act of straight aggresion against Schism as project and so - against me personally. Suddenly, after it they changed thier mind. And also delete our conversation just because why not. But believe me, there is person who have screens of it. Feel free to guess who. [22:57] @shotfan @YourpalZ3R0 speaking of Lister personally and his style of talk - don't mind his offensive words, oftenly he don't intend to be as offensive as it sounds`` [07-Feb-21 12:58 AM] shotfan#6872 Oh look @iSpookulon [07-Feb-21 12:58 AM] shotfan#6872 He admitted it. [07-Feb-21 12:59 AM] Frax314#7488 Tell him you don't care. [07-Feb-21 12:59 AM] shotfan#6872 You know [07-Feb-21 12:59 AM] shotfan#6872 Maybe this is the time [07-Feb-21 01:00 AM] shotfan#6872 I do not know, I am not thinking clear right now [07-Feb-21 01:00 AM] shotfan#6872 ``But he experienced a lot of fucking disgusting injustice and his heart is literally full of hate to people who acts like mindless bitches, and I can understand him. In fact I understood him less before my ban on CF and ban of @Dreo in PB, but after it - I do more.`` [07-Feb-21 01:01 AM] Frax314#7488 Net screwing me over rn [07-Feb-21 01:02 AM] Frax314#7488 Tell him that is god damn irrelevant [07-Feb-21 01:02 AM] Frax314#7488 To what has transpired in the server [07-Feb-21 01:03 AM] Frax314#7488 If he keeps that kinf of talk, rebeal your knowledge on Listeronum and call him out on cocksuckery. [07-Feb-21 01:03 AM] shotfan#6872 Anyone else has an opinion on this? [07-Feb-21 01:04 AM] shotfan#6872 I need to gather the today transcript from this channel. [07-Feb-21 01:04 AM] shotfan#6872 Maybe I will got a little more calm by then [07-Feb-21 01:04 AM] Frax314#7488 Thrre is @Fluffy onlin e. [07-Feb-21 01:05 AM] shotfan#6872 Coole's response: ``So yeah lothar said why`` [07-Feb-21 01:05 AM] shotfan#6872 Crony confirmed. [07-Feb-21 01:05 AM] shotfan#6872 That leaves Zero and MAYBE one other moderator to back me up (the other one is not involved in this now). [07-Feb-21 01:06 AM] Frax314#7488 "I've been you, I know you, your facade is a scam" [07-Feb-21 01:07 AM] Frax314#7488 Tbh, this is where you go guns blazing if you will [07-Feb-21 01:07 AM] Frax314#7488 Or better yet... [07-Feb-21 01:08 AM] Frax314#7488 Nah [07-Feb-21 01:08 AM] Fluffy#5319 Sup [07-Feb-21 01:08 AM] Frax314#7488 I was thinking stupid [07-Feb-21 01:08 AM] Fluffy#5319 Oh this doesn't look good [07-Feb-21 01:09 AM] shotfan#6872 Read what happend today, Fluffy, if you can. [07-Feb-21 01:09 AM] shotfan#6872 Yeah [07-Feb-21 01:10 AM] shotfan#6872 You know [07-Feb-21 01:10 AM] Fluffy#5319 Do you know how much scum there was put in LSD itself? [07-Feb-21 01:10 AM] Fluffy#5319 And the source port? [07-Feb-21 01:10 AM] shotfan#6872 Not at all. [07-Feb-21 01:10 AM] Fluffy#5319 High levels [07-Feb-21 01:10 AM] shotfan#6872 With what Lothar said, your screenshot is not going to be very effective unfortunately @Frax314 [07-Feb-21 01:10 AM] Frax314#7488 Yeah I know. [07-Feb-21 01:10 AM] shotfan#6872 He is going to deflect it saying that it means nothing important [07-Feb-21 01:10 AM] Frax314#7488 But... [07-Feb-21 01:11 AM] Frax314#7488 You can use the others. [07-Feb-21 01:11 AM] shotfan#6872 While they get a confirmation that I know what is up. [07-Feb-21 01:11 AM] Frax314#7488 Which may be more effective. [07-Feb-21 01:11 AM] Frax314#7488 Jist do a search for my posted images im this group chat [07-Feb-21 01:11 AM] shotfan#6872 He uses the "price" two times in the final response, but he can again claim that does not mean a pricetag. [07-Feb-21 01:12 AM] Frax314#7488 then use m y screensho t of him saying the prices. [07-Feb-21 01:12 AM] Frax314#7488 It'll all be over. [07-Feb-21 01:12 AM] Frax314#7488 Rrmember to just say a friend entrusted you with it when leaving the community ;P [07-Feb-21 01:13 AM] shotfan#6872 I can just say that my sources are none of his business. [07-Feb-21 01:13 AM] Fluffy#5319 Hopefully lister doesn't lurk in the nexus server [07-Feb-21 01:13 AM] Frax314#7488 He is e ve rywhere. [07-Feb-21 01:13 AM] Fluffy#5319 That's my server and my friends, he needs to stay out of that shit [07-Feb-21 01:13 AM] shotfan#6872 Except HM, hehe [07-Feb-21 01:14 AM] Frax314#7488 But in HM there's one of his, Annihilator 667. [07-Feb-21 01:14 AM] shotfan#6872 Oh fuck [07-Feb-21 01:14 AM] shotfan#6872 Not good then [07-Feb-21 01:14 AM] Frax314#7488 Speaking of which, I forgot to tell you to ban him, Fluffy [07-Feb-21 01:14 AM] Frax314#7488 Just do it [07-Feb-21 01:14 AM] shotfan#6872 lol [07-Feb-21 01:14 AM] Fluffy#5319 Is kicking not enough? [07-Feb-21 01:15 AM] Frax314#7488 Not sure. [07-Feb-21 01:15 AM] Fluffy#5319 Sheesh [07-Feb-21 01:15 AM] shotfan#6872 Just so you know [07-Feb-21 01:15 AM] shotfan#6872 If I pull out the pricetag, Zero is inevitably joining. [07-Feb-21 01:15 AM] Fluffy#5319 I mean first off HM has nothing to do with lister and co, but if it's for protection fine [07-Feb-21 01:16 AM] shotfan#6872 I need to respond to Lothar's drivel of whoreshipping Lister [07-Feb-21 01:17 AM] Frax314#7488 Joining the group chat you mean? [07-Feb-21 01:17 AM] Frax314#7488 Or whatever new server idk [07-Feb-21 01:17 AM] Frax314#7488 Zero can join. Just go all out. [07-Feb-21 01:17 AM] shotfan#6872 Yeah. [07-Feb-21 01:18 AM] Fluffy#5319 Pinned a message. [07-Feb-21 01:18 AM] Frax314#7488 Annd remember that nothing can excuse what Lister & co. have done. [07-Feb-21 01:18 AM] Frax314#7488 Whoops. [07-Feb-21 01:18 AM] Frax314#7488 id dunno what i pinned [07-Feb-21 01:18 AM] shotfan#6872 Of course [07-Feb-21 01:18 AM] Frax314#7488 Tablet slow [07-Feb-21 01:18 AM] Fluffy#5319 Pinned a message. [07-Feb-21 01:18 AM] shotfan#6872 I do not care [07-Feb-21 01:18 AM] Frax314#7488 Wtf again [07-Feb-21 01:18 AM] Fluffy#5319 That was me [07-Feb-21 01:19 AM] Frax314#7488 Oh lel [07-Feb-21 01:19 AM] Fluffy#5319 Just pinning some info for reading later [07-Feb-21 01:19 AM] Frax314#7488 All right [07-Feb-21 01:20 AM] Frax314#7488 Fyi, almost midnight here and tablet charge running out (bad habit of vonsuming it whole). Maay be absent later. [07-Feb-21 01:24 AM] Frax314#7488 So what ex actly you gon do shotfan? [07-Feb-21 01:25 AM] shotfan#6872 So he calls him a sociopath, a renegade, is doing him greater justice... [07-Feb-21 01:25 AM] shotfan#6872 Where do I even start to torn this shit down like Berlin Wall [07-Feb-21 01:25 AM] shotfan#6872 I am fucking repulsed at how much Lister's cum is in this text coming from Lothar's mouth [07-Feb-21 01:26 AM] Fluffy#5319 Lister reminds me of hitler [07-Feb-21 01:26 AM] shotfan#6872 I getting more pissed off by every minute and my ability to write coherently is balancing on a high rope [07-Feb-21 01:26 AM] Frax314#7488 Lister is Hitler with petty reasons [07-Feb-21 01:26 AM] Frax314#7488 😛 [07-Feb-21 01:27 AM] Fluffy#5319 yup lol [07-Feb-21 01:27 AM] shotfan#6872 I am just wondering should I just slam the door and leave the server myself [07-Feb-21 01:27 AM] shotfan#6872 Or force Lothar to kick me out [07-Feb-21 01:28 AM] Frax314#7488 "If you like Lister so much then why don't you have him as a moder ator instead of us?" [07-Feb-21 01:28 AM] Frax314#7488 but eu nah [07-Feb-21 01:28 AM] Frax314#7488 Actually. [07-Feb-21 01:29 AM] Frax314#7488 Skip the moral part of his speech, and just prove wrong what is effectively a lie. [07-Feb-21 01:30 AM] shotfan#6872 What? [07-Feb-21 01:30 AM] Frax314#7488 Where there is no way to just say "but you gotta know him"y [07-Feb-21 01:30 AM] shotfan#6872 What do you mean? [07-Feb-21 01:30 AM] Frax314#7488 For example you said he said the prices were not a pricetag [07-Feb-21 01:30 AM] Frax314#7488 But you have a screenshot proving otherwise. [07-Feb-21 01:30 AM] shotfan#6872 My head is full of everything right now [07-Feb-21 01:30 AM] shotfan#6872 No he did not [07-Feb-21 01:31 AM] shotfan#6872 He just used prices in a vague way [07-Feb-21 01:31 AM] Frax314#7488 Eave the "justice" part out for now. Focus on the "real" stuff, if you get what I mean. [07-Feb-21 01:32 AM] shotfan#6872 Yeah not really [07-Feb-21 01:32 AM] shotfan#6872 I just do not want to be there anymore [07-Feb-21 01:32 AM] shotfan#6872 I am sick of this gay orgy [07-Feb-21 01:32 AM] shotfan#6872 Do you know how it smells there? [07-Feb-21 01:33 AM] Frax314#7488 Doo it the cool way: spam the incriminating screenshots throughout all channels :DDDDD [07-Feb-21 01:33 AM] Frax314#7488 Jk. Unlesd you want to fr. [07-Feb-21 01:33 AM] shotfan#6872 I am still in stunlock. [07-Feb-21 01:34 AM] shotfan#6872 This fucking community. [07-Feb-21 01:35 AM] Frax314#7488 No kidding. [07-Feb-21 01:36 AM] Frax314#7488 All this slimeballing over vidya gaems. [07-Feb-21 01:38 AM] Frax314#7488 Those people have all the pride and no spine. [07-Feb-21 01:39 AM] shotfan#6872 Correction: there is no pride without a spine. [07-Feb-21 01:39 AM] shotfan#6872 Just various degrees of cocksucking. [07-Feb-21 01:39 AM] shotfan#6872 And that one is 8/10 [07-Feb-21 01:39 AM] Frax314#7488 9/10 from my POV. [07-Feb-21 01:40 AM] Fluffy#5319 Annihilator got booted [07-Feb-21 01:40 AM] Frax314#7488 Because of how naturally he hung out with them before [07-Feb-21 01:40 AM] Frax314#7488 Good [07-Feb-21 01:40 AM] shotfan#6872 You know what [07-Feb-21 01:40 AM] shotfan#6872 Anecdote time [07-Feb-21 01:40 AM] Fluffy#5319 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807742658922414110/Screenshot_35.png [07-Feb-21 01:41 AM] shotfan#6872 Lothar did some painting for the presidential cabinet of my country [07-Feb-21 01:41 AM] shotfan#6872 Of former president [07-Feb-21 01:41 AM] Frax314#7488 kekw sus [07-Feb-21 01:41 AM] shotfan#6872 Because the party of former and current president is the same [07-Feb-21 01:42 AM] shotfan#6872 So whatever it is, it seems like he just likes to get friends with power [07-Feb-21 01:42 AM] Frax314#7488 ~~Inb4 Lister is Putin gaming~~ [07-Feb-21 01:43 AM] shotfan#6872 I could tell you about the party, but sufficient to say that are not anything better than a typical postcommunist power clique [07-Feb-21 01:43 AM] shotfan#6872 I thought that he did that only as an artist, but... [07-Feb-21 01:44 AM] shotfan#6872 After today's experience, I am not so sure. [07-Feb-21 01:44 AM] shotfan#6872 Ohhh right [07-Feb-21 01:44 AM] shotfan#6872 And he is now preparing to cozy up with Romero [07-Feb-21 01:44 AM] shotfan#6872 Cute [07-Feb-21 01:45 AM] Frax314#7488 Well, you can get to call him out on that... [07-Feb-21 01:45 AM] shotfan#6872 Apparently - as he said in DMs - he intends to remake Schism into a standalone game using Romero's support. [07-Feb-21 01:46 AM] Frax314#7488 Wjat the fuck [07-Feb-21 01:46 AM] Frax314#7488 Wht the fuck [07-Feb-21 01:46 AM] shotfan#6872 I wonder who gave him the idea, huh? [07-Feb-21 01:46 AM] Frax314#7488 What the fuckkkkk [07-Feb-21 01:46 AM] Frax314#7488 Can you expose him on Romero's discord nefore it is too late? [07-Feb-21 01:46 AM] shotfan#6872 ~~you cannot prolong consonants~~ [07-Feb-21 01:47 AM] Frax314#7488 ~~I know.~~ [07-Feb-21 01:47 AM] shotfan#6872 I am nobody there [07-Feb-21 01:47 AM] shotfan#6872 I only have my word [07-Feb-21 01:48 AM] Frax314#7488 Alriht I ought to check out now. GOott a get *some* sleep. [07-Feb-21 01:49 AM] Frax314#7488 do w hat you find just. [07-Feb-21 02:33 AM] shotfan#6872 ``Seriously? What the fuck is this? You are letting him be because of totally unrelated reasons? You are indulging at cronyism because he impressed you with some Doom programming? Do you know that nobody is free of moral judgement, no matter how expert they are at whatever skill? You call him a hacker, a sociopath and a renegade, and also a person full of hate, yet you let him do whatever he pleases here, because of some sick love you have for him? So you let him break whatever rule he wants because you want to give him some hideout or some other shit? Is this Schism server, or Lister’s soapbox? And why I should even care about what went down at Clusterfuck or PB at all? We are talking about what happened in our server! And those prices – so, Doomkrakken was right? Lister does in fact want to sell his sourceport? Where is your integrity? `` [07-Feb-21 02:33 AM] shotfan#6872 I need to log out. [07-Feb-21 02:33 AM] shotfan#6872 If I am booted by tomorrow, I do not care. [07-Feb-21 02:58 AM] Fluffy#5319 Well [07-Feb-21 02:58 AM] Fluffy#5319 Might be a good idea to stay out of it at this point [07-Feb-21 02:58 AM] Fluffy#5319 Cos [07-Feb-21 02:59 AM] Fluffy#5319 I haven't seen anything so controversial than this in the doom community [07-Feb-21 02:59 AM] Fluffy#5319 Best not to be a part of it [07-Feb-21 02:59 AM] Fluffy#5319 Do anything that's necessary in the shadows [07-Feb-21 03:00 AM] Fluffy#5319 And arguing with lister and his "buddies" is just like talking to a mirror [07-Feb-21 03:00 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 *wall [07-Feb-21 03:00 AM] Fluffy#5319 Wall not mirror lol [07-Feb-21 03:00 AM] Fluffy#5319 sorry [07-Feb-21 03:00 AM] Fluffy#5319 But yeah [07-Feb-21 03:01 AM] Fluffy#5319 Maybe doomkrakkan can do something when it comes to arguments [07-Feb-21 03:01 AM] Fluffy#5319 Isn't he a trusted zdoom modder or guide? [07-Feb-21 03:45 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 This is critical information. Pin it [07-Feb-21 03:47 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 w-WHAT [07-Feb-21 03:47 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 THE BLADE OF AGONY DEV'S A LISTER CRONY? [07-Feb-21 03:48 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Heh [07-Feb-21 03:50 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But anyways this seems like it's reaching a boiling point [07-Feb-21 03:50 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ~~lmk if I can finally tell the QCDE Discord about it~~ [07-Feb-21 03:50 AM] Fluffy#5319 Knowing all of this [07-Feb-21 03:51 AM] Fluffy#5319 I'm starting to think if the doom com is coming to an end [07-Feb-21 03:51 AM] Fluffy#5319 The whole lister situation has spread a lot, making this listeronum stuff seem like a real deal [07-Feb-21 03:52 AM] Fluffy#5319 Idk how many people would like to use his services, hence there's so many who knows the bad things and frankly, doom mods are free and not behind a paywall [07-Feb-21 03:54 AM] Fluffy#5319 Spreading the word with all the proof needed and such might also just escalate things even worse, but it's worth an attempt on stopping something [07-Feb-21 03:54 AM] Fluffy#5319 Still [07-Feb-21 03:55 AM] Fluffy#5319 TSPG offers free server hosting which is already great, zandronum itself is outdated which is also being slowly worked on [07-Feb-21 03:55 AM] Fluffy#5319 And it's exactly what lister wants to target and bring down by offering a better version [07-Feb-21 03:56 AM] Fluffy#5319 If there were more people like doomkrakkan though i'd see the light [07-Feb-21 03:57 AM] Fluffy#5319 Also we TSPG still had britsteel [07-Feb-21 03:58 AM] Fluffy#5319 Not sure if it'll ever come back [07-Feb-21 03:59 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I already asked in the QCDE Discord if paid Doom sourceports sounded like a good idea and one of them said: > Imagine paying for the base and then paying to play the base game > That's some EA shit right there [07-Feb-21 03:59 AM] Fluffy#5319 Yeah [07-Feb-21 03:59 AM] Fluffy#5319 They need to understand that this could happen anytime this year [07-Feb-21 04:00 AM] Fluffy#5319 Stuff suddendly turned into an absurd pay system [07-Feb-21 04:00 AM] Fluffy#5319 With content that was not made by them, content that was stolen [07-Feb-21 04:01 AM] Fluffy#5319 Hopefully it'll turn out like fallout frontier, except it won't ever return [07-Feb-21 04:02 AM] Fluffy#5319 A mod that turned out so controversial they had to remove it [07-Feb-21 04:02 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 It'll recieve several key strikes to the nuts once the Doom community has Lister's shit revealed to them. [07-Feb-21 04:04 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Especially his modding White and Blacklists that he's had built-in, which see to unfairly benefit or screw over certain mods and modders respectively. [07-Feb-21 04:04 AM] Fluffy#5319 yeah what the hell [07-Feb-21 04:05 AM] Fluffy#5319 @shotfan Is doomkrakkan trustworthy? [07-Feb-21 04:05 AM] Fluffy#5319 if so maybe you could invite him here [07-Feb-21 04:06 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 We'd have to make a full-on server for that [07-Feb-21 04:06 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Since this group DM has hit the 10-user capacity. [07-Feb-21 04:07 AM] Fluffy#5319 Oh [07-Feb-21 04:07 AM] Fluffy#5319 ok [07-Feb-21 04:07 AM] Fluffy#5319 Didn't know [07-Feb-21 04:07 AM] Fluffy#5319 Having to create a server especially for this would require top protection [07-Feb-21 04:07 AM] Fluffy#5319 aldentifier and such [07-Feb-21 04:08 AM] Fluffy#5319 Or just only invites allowed by the server owner [07-Feb-21 04:09 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Ofc [07-Feb-21 04:10 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Restricted invite privileges, invitation of trusted individuals only. [07-Feb-21 04:10 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 And if someone threatens to, or does indeed snitch, contingency plans are engaged. [07-Feb-21 04:11 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Well I'll definitely just wait for the cue to spill the beans in the QCDE Discord [07-Feb-21 04:14 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 I'd personally wait until Listeronum is released before spilling anything. [07-Feb-21 04:16 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Since it would allow for the opportunity for people to attempt to reverse-engineer Source Port before Lister inevitably delists it once all the shit about him comes out. [07-Feb-21 04:16 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Wouldn't want him to be hogging all that creative potential for himself, now would we? [07-Feb-21 04:25 AM] Fluffy#5319 You have the source port? [07-Feb-21 04:26 AM] Fluffy#5319 Well [07-Feb-21 04:26 AM] Fluffy#5319 In any case this isn't gonna be easy [07-Feb-21 08:43 AM] Raov#2531 new info on lister [07-Feb-21 08:43 AM] Raov#2531 found some gameplay videos on his vk profile, and they are VERY recenbt {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807849101885571092/unknown.png [07-Feb-21 08:44 AM] Raov#2531 so @Frax314 maybe youre wrong that he wouldnt play paradise island [07-Feb-21 08:53 AM] Raov#2531 this game dates all the way back to 2018 on his profile videos too [07-Feb-21 12:29 PM] Frax314#7488 No, that's Tormentor667. [07-Feb-21 12:29 PM] Frax314#7488 Do not worry. [07-Feb-21 12:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Not really, the best case scenario would be Lister giving up and making the port and source code free [07-Feb-21 12:31 PM] Frax314#7488 But knowing him, he won't... [07-Feb-21 12:32 PM] Frax314#7488 If his port is half as good as he claims it to be, it'd still probably wreck the competition were it not surrounded by this shadiness. [07-Feb-21 12:46 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh ok [07-Feb-21 01:03 PM] Raov#2531 i am so fucking ready to get those guns on pristine condition [07-Feb-21 01:06 PM] Frax314#7488 This incident pretty much shows everything that went wrong with the Doom community [07-Feb-21 01:07 PM] Frax314#7488 - Tribal, split community - Overreliance on a single person for each "tribe" - Lack of an universally recognized sourceport, leading to thirst for a new one [07-Feb-21 01:07 PM] Raov#2531 okay i need a refresher [07-Feb-21 01:07 PM] Raov#2531 when is listeronum scheduled to release [07-Feb-21 01:09 PM] Frax314#7488 March is the point where the thing has released earlier if before that month, later if it released after [07-Feb-21 01:09 PM] Frax314#7488 But somehow I doubt they will release it exactly in March. [07-Feb-21 01:12 PM] Raov#2531 i found yet another city [07-Feb-21 01:12 PM] Raov#2531 Perm [07-Feb-21 01:12 PM] Raov#2531 thats under the Andrey name though [07-Feb-21 01:13 PM] Raov#2531 @Frax314 can you give me ALL known accounts of lister? im digging deep [07-Feb-21 01:14 PM] Frax314#7488 Li$ter#9979, Discord. [07-Feb-21 01:14 PM] Frax314#7488 The youtube account I already sent you. [07-Feb-21 01:14 PM] Raov#2531 yeah thats indexed already [07-Feb-21 01:15 PM] Frax314#7488 I do not know other certain accounts. [07-Feb-21 01:15 PM] Raov#2531 alright [07-Feb-21 01:15 PM] Raov#2531 so only discord and yt? [07-Feb-21 01:15 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah If Zandronum required accounts I could help you with that, but it's fully anonymous [07-Feb-21 01:19 PM] Raov#2531 andrey yuklyaevskiy looks like a better pick now [07-Feb-21 01:19 PM] Raov#2531 a vk profile i found actually states harkov, a ukranian city [07-Feb-21 01:19 PM] Raov#2531 and looking at his main vk profile he is defo ukranian [07-Feb-21 01:20 PM] Frax314#7488 I'm pretty sure he is russian. [07-Feb-21 01:20 PM] Raov#2531 hm [07-Feb-21 01:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Always claimed to be. [07-Feb-21 01:20 PM] Raov#2531 lemme look over his profile again [07-Feb-21 01:25 PM] Raov#2531 he has some pics from moscow [07-Feb-21 01:25 PM] Raov#2531 hm [07-Feb-21 01:29 PM] Raov#2531 okay found more pics [07-Feb-21 01:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Also doesn't Ukrain have a language different from Russian? [07-Feb-21 01:30 PM] Raov#2531 slightly [07-Feb-21 01:30 PM] Raov#2531 but yes [07-Feb-21 01:30 PM] Raov#2531 actually most ukranians study both ukranian and russian [07-Feb-21 01:30 PM] Frax314#7488 So technically less than Portuguese:Spanish ratio, right? [07-Feb-21 01:30 PM] Raov#2531 probably [07-Feb-21 01:36 PM] Raov#2531 another guess: Denis Bestov, in Novosibirsk [07-Feb-21 01:36 PM] Raov#2531 born in Dec 18th [07-Feb-21 01:39 PM] Raov#2531 found another nickname: `listerr616` [07-Feb-21 01:39 PM] Raov#2531 has a askfm page, stated as living in moscow [07-Feb-21 01:40 PM] Raov#2531 one of the screenshots from his vk page {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807923774124064768/I9ko6tUlU4k.png [07-Feb-21 01:40 PM] Raov#2531 see the dead *something* 2 logo in the notification bar? [07-Feb-21 01:41 PM] Raov#2531 his twitter stated that he played the thing [07-Feb-21 01:41 PM] Raov#2531 confirming the link between him and the twitter account [07-Feb-21 01:45 PM] Raov#2531 a receipt from a kfc in moscow he posted {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807925072127590450/2htsoi5kedE.png [07-Feb-21 01:45 PM] Raov#2531 yeah he definitely lives in moscow [07-Feb-21 01:47 PM] Raov#2531 (pinned) oh yeah he for sure played paradise island {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807925623720378388/BfP-trwXvNw.png [07-Feb-21 01:48 PM] Raov#2531 the status bar icon again [07-Feb-21 02:00 PM] Frax314#7488 ~~Will he port Listeronum to the KFConsole?????~~ [07-Feb-21 02:00 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [07-Feb-21 02:02 PM] Raov#2531 found another twitter account [07-Feb-21 02:02 PM] Raov#2531 okay no doesnt exist [07-Feb-21 02:04 PM] Frax314#7488 Tbh. I doubt he has a Twitter account. [07-Feb-21 02:04 PM] Frax314#7488 Considering how edgily politically incorrect he is... [07-Feb-21 02:05 PM] Raov#2531 whats all this then https://twitter.com/lister149 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807930085058543616/unknown.png {Embed} https://twitter.com/lister149 Сергей Драгунов (@lister149) Tweets 251 https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/E7KTOHDfZxTKBQ0CphIAjaslpqvhit_Tlm-nxImdpv0/https/abs.twimg.com/sticky/default_profile_images/default_profile_normal.png Twitter [07-Feb-21 02:13 PM] Raov#2531 (pinned) OKAY I THINK I JUST GOT HIS FULL ADDRESS {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807932126166646814/F7Jpl2v464Y.png [07-Feb-21 02:15 PM] Raov#2531 Moscow, Anokhin Academic street 30, apartment complex 2, ap. 315 [07-Feb-21 02:15 PM] Raov#2531 name is ofc fake, this is included in the same post {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807932623422095380/LR_rPgEJIzM.png [07-Feb-21 02:29 PM] Raov#2531 (pinned) tell him something like "this look familiar?" {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807936045953450004/unknown.png [07-Feb-21 02:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Nay [07-Feb-21 02:31 PM] Frax314#7488 We are not creeps [07-Feb-21 03:32 PM] Raov#2531 i didnt mean right now [07-Feb-21 03:32 PM] Raov#2531 but if and when shit hits the fan [07-Feb-21 03:45 PM] Raov#2531 (pinned) 2 more hits Anton Prikhozhy and Anatoly Fomin [07-Feb-21 03:46 PM] Raov#2531 first profile is absolutely littered with shady ways of earning money on the internet [07-Feb-21 03:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Hmmmmmmm [07-Feb-21 04:10 PM] Raov#2531 okay, time for some social engineering i think [07-Feb-21 04:10 PM] Raov#2531 @Frax314 you got any ideas on how to get lister to click on a link? [07-Feb-21 04:11 PM] Frax314#7488 ...what? [07-Feb-21 04:11 PM] Frax314#7488 Why [07-Feb-21 04:11 PM] Frax314#7488 Bruh. Not that far. [07-Feb-21 04:11 PM] Frax314#7488 As I said, we don't NEED his real self at all. [07-Feb-21 04:11 PM] Raov#2531 i know [07-Feb-21 04:11 PM] Raov#2531 but its for manipulation [07-Feb-21 04:12 PM] Raov#2531 i want him to regret what he did [07-Feb-21 04:12 PM] Frax314#7488 We are fighting specifically his appearance in the Doom community, the man behind the screen can do all he wants as long as he stops bothering everyone. [07-Feb-21 04:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, just tell me what you intend to do. [07-Feb-21 04:13 PM] Raov#2531 okay, tl;dr get his current IP and picture from his webcam if he has one [07-Feb-21 04:13 PM] Raov#2531 picture is gonna be used to see if the name i got was right [07-Feb-21 04:13 PM] Frax314#7488 You think he is that dumb? [07-Feb-21 04:13 PM] Raov#2531 nah he aint [07-Feb-21 04:13 PM] Raov#2531 neither am i [07-Feb-21 04:13 PM] Raov#2531 im going to mask it thoroughly [07-Feb-21 04:15 PM] Frax314#7488 Listen We aren't gonna get his true name nor face We just ought to get some vague real info on him so if we make a doc or something, he gets scared seeing it if we get it right. That's all. [07-Feb-21 04:15 PM] Raov#2531 >he gets scared seeing it if we get it right [07-Feb-21 04:15 PM] Raov#2531 exactly why i need a fresh pic of him [07-Feb-21 04:16 PM] Raov#2531 his profiles are VERY scarce on images [07-Feb-21 04:17 PM] Frax314#7488 But it is not something we should go directly looking for, just something we find searching around about him. [07-Feb-21 05:44 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/807985190907281408/unknown_2.png [07-Feb-21 05:44 PM] shotfan#6872 This is the screenshot of Lothar's response yesterday. [07-Feb-21 05:45 PM] shotfan#6872 I am online now, just in invisible status. [07-Feb-21 05:45 PM] shotfan#6872 Fresh sitrep: [07-Feb-21 05:46 PM] shotfan#6872 Zero is supporting me in the channel, saying basically the same as I did in that message of mine I gave you before logging out. [07-Feb-21 05:47 PM] shotfan#6872 Two other staff members - Prometheus and tovRobi - are now also against letting Lister do his shit in Schism server. [07-Feb-21 05:48 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar still defends Lister like a victim of Stockholm's Syndrome, claims that what he knows about the guy is enough to abrogate of responsibility. [07-Feb-21 05:49 PM] shotfan#6872 He also asked me and Zero do download LSD an try it. For what? Possibly in hopes that I get involved into their little gang? [07-Feb-21 05:49 PM] shotfan#6872 Also - and that is weird - Lothar is now considering actually making a punishment on Lister for the whole situation. [07-Feb-21 05:50 PM] shotfan#6872 I was ready yesterday to get the fuck of there, but now it seems that Lothar is still underestimating how pissed off I got. [07-Feb-21 05:51 PM] shotfan#6872 Currently thinking about what to do, with a cooler head. [07-Feb-21 06:04 PM] Frax314#7488 I have an idea. [07-Feb-21 06:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Go and try LSD. Then mock Lothar because it's a stupid randomizer. [07-Feb-21 06:05 PM] Frax314#7488 That'll do them in if you want to. [07-Feb-21 06:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Do idkfa, show the BFG15k with the shitty sprite (the Q3 Rocket Launcher rip). [07-Feb-21 06:06 PM] Frax314#7488 LSD does a shitty initial impression... [07-Feb-21 06:06 PM] shotfan#6872 Also, Prometheus and Lothar got into a semantic discussion about what a hacker is. And Lothar claims that being a criminal is not a bad thing if you live in Russia (and pirate everything, context says). [07-Feb-21 06:06 PM] Frax314#7488 lel [07-Feb-21 06:06 PM] shotfan#6872 I will try to do a new batch of screenshots right now. [07-Feb-21 06:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Anyway, I gotta leave for a while now. Take my idea in consideration... [07-Feb-21 06:07 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not care about LSD, goes without saying. [07-Feb-21 06:08 PM] shotfan#6872 I will get the screencaps first, then think what next. [07-Feb-21 07:03 PM] Frax314#7488 As a heads-up, you can also strengthen your alliance with Zero by seeing LSD togheter and pointing out togheter its main flaws. [07-Feb-21 07:05 PM] Frax314#7488 For the "what the actual fuck is he talking about?" factor aganist Lothar. [07-Feb-21 07:49 PM] shotfan#6872 Get ready for another screen dump. Almost thrity images. [07-Feb-21 07:51 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017058397814834/2021-02-07_16.16.16.png [07-Feb-21 07:51 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017225621438514/2021-02-07_16.18.26.png [07-Feb-21 07:52 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017274858373140/2021-02-07_16.18.49.png [07-Feb-21 07:52 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017359754231818/2021-02-07_16.19.03.png [07-Feb-21 07:52 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017410866937896/2021-02-07_16.19.26.png [07-Feb-21 07:52 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017457843142686/2021-02-07_16.19.46.png [07-Feb-21 07:53 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017539431006228/2021-02-07_16.20.29.png [07-Feb-21 07:53 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017610196910130/2021-02-07_16.21.21.png [07-Feb-21 07:53 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017723388067840/2021-02-07_16.21.47.png [07-Feb-21 07:54 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017798986858547/2021-02-07_16.22.04.png [07-Feb-21 07:54 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017862920634458/2021-02-07_16.22.41.png [07-Feb-21 07:54 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808017948022145054/2021-02-07_16.23.04.png [07-Feb-21 07:55 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808018002480988170/2021-02-07_16.23.42.png [07-Feb-21 07:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Here comes the Lothar's response again... Reposting it for continuity. [07-Feb-21 07:56 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808018382921269258/2021-02-07_16.24.35.png [07-Feb-21 07:56 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808018433366294538/2021-02-07_16.25.03.png [07-Feb-21 07:57 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808018493043638282/2021-02-07_16.25.18.png [07-Feb-21 07:57 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808018592796508200/2021-02-07_16.26.22.png [07-Feb-21 07:57 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808018665093333002/2021-02-07_16.26.42.png [07-Feb-21 07:58 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808018759037747200/2021-02-07_16.27.26.png [07-Feb-21 07:58 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808018940264972309/2021-02-07_16.28.09.png [07-Feb-21 07:59 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808018992173416459/2021-02-07_16.28.23.png [07-Feb-21 07:59 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808019099724677130/2021-02-07_16.28.48.png [07-Feb-21 07:59 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808019173057757234/2021-02-07_16.29.14.png [07-Feb-21 07:59 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808019229059186688/2021-02-07_16.29.27.png [07-Feb-21 08:00 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808019302577078312/2021-02-07_16.29.56.png [07-Feb-21 08:00 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808019404792397904/2021-02-07_16.30.47.png [07-Feb-21 08:00 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808019462073876480/2021-02-07_16.31.08.png [07-Feb-21 08:01 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808019545428197376/2021-02-07_16.31.40.png [07-Feb-21 08:01 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808019590890258452/2021-02-07_16.32.01.png [07-Feb-21 08:02 PM] shotfan#6872 That is all. [07-Feb-21 08:03 PM] shotfan#6872 @Fluffy Frax talked with Doomkrakken earlier, but the latter was not interested coming in here. Besides, we are at full capacity for a group DM. [07-Feb-21 08:04 PM] shotfan#6872 Maybe I will contact him myself later on though? He should remember me. [07-Feb-21 08:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Nice to see it seems most moderators are helping you. [07-Feb-21 08:06 PM] shotfan#6872 I am thinking about cooling down the topic and just focusing on the immediate punishment, since Lothar finally proposed it. [07-Feb-21 08:06 PM] shotfan#6872 Maybe that is a test for him to check out how hostile we are to Lister? [07-Feb-21 08:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Ah I see what he means by hack there, just Lister's more impressive ACS workarounds... [07-Feb-21 08:07 PM] Raov#2531 ""hacker"" [07-Feb-21 08:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Sadly, quite litterally anything less than a ban will do anything. [07-Feb-21 08:08 PM] Frax314#7488 🤔 [07-Feb-21 08:08 PM] shotfan#6872 If he was still not considering anything, then I would throw my "badge". [07-Feb-21 08:09 PM] shotfan#6872 But now, it is not as clear. [07-Feb-21 08:10 PM] shotfan#6872 He made a step backwards, essentially giving me the attention I wanted. [07-Feb-21 08:11 PM] shotfan#6872 It is not a good time for the nuke option, I do not have enough support. [07-Feb-21 08:11 PM] Raov#2531 Holy shit the wording on this is on point He's describing Russia exactly how it is rn [07-Feb-21 08:11 PM] shotfan#6872 It feels like a den of snakes. [07-Feb-21 08:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright I gtg for now, choose your next move carefully. You could elegantly tell him that he can be not like Russia and thus not let him get off scot-free... [07-Feb-21 08:15 PM] Raov#2531 go ahead and tell zero it ain't a language barrier, he has exhibited similar attitude to others in Russian [07-Feb-21 08:19 PM] shotfan#6872 I think that I am going to advocate for a final warning. [07-Feb-21 08:20 PM] shotfan#6872 One more and ban. [07-Feb-21 08:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Yes, that'd be excellent! Even Google Translate painted his russian words exactly the same way as his english ones... [07-Feb-21 08:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Still get shivers from that... [07-Feb-21 08:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah, so that he and Li$ter himself can just laugh it off in PMs. [07-Feb-21 08:21 PM] Frax314#7488 That will do nothing. [07-Feb-21 08:21 PM] Raov#2531 So do we act? [07-Feb-21 08:21 PM] Frax314#7488 A "ban him or ban/demote us" ultimatum would be more effective. [07-Feb-21 08:22 PM] Frax314#7488 THEN it will get serious. [07-Feb-21 08:22 PM] Frax314#7488 If he's so selective about punishment, then why even have moderators? [07-Feb-21 08:23 PM] Frax314#7488 I gtg again... this is the decisive moment, don't fuck up and don't let it slide off easy. If you can't punish Li$ter, punish Lothar another way at least... [07-Feb-21 08:31 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah I know he is not going to punish Lister. [07-Feb-21 08:32 PM] shotfan#6872 I can pack my shit, but that makes it one problem less for them. [07-Feb-21 08:34 PM] shotfan#6872 And I am not sure this is the time to post the prices. [07-Feb-21 08:47 PM] Frax314#7488 Am back online [07-Feb-21 08:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, what you need to do is convince the other moderators to also agree to the ultimatum. [07-Feb-21 08:53 PM] Frax314#7488 So that he either fires good part of the moderation team (I doubt he will...), or lets Li$ter get banned. [07-Feb-21 09:00 PM] shotfan#6872 I am not betting on that. [07-Feb-21 09:01 PM] shotfan#6872 Maybe two people max would go with me. And there are at least 8 moderators now, not counting whoever the fuck has a "special status". [07-Feb-21 09:01 PM] shotfan#6872 That is not going to impede them much. [07-Feb-21 09:02 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not see a good option here. [07-Feb-21 09:09 PM] Frax314#7488 Giga thonk hours [07-Feb-21 09:11 PM] shotfan#6872 Also, I have been there for a short time, just a few months. Whereas Lothar may have known most of the crew for a way longer time. [07-Feb-21 09:12 PM] shotfan#6872 I am think that I am a non-Cyrillic outsider to his clique. [07-Feb-21 09:13 PM] shotfan#6872 He will just grab moderator replacements from wherever he pleases, but Lister will stay. [07-Feb-21 09:14 PM] Frax314#7488 Hmm [07-Feb-21 09:16 PM] shotfan#6872 Do you think that there is enough to gain if I stay there? [07-Feb-21 09:20 PM] shotfan#6872 By the way, I am not telling Zero that Lister is an asshole in any language, because I cannot read his Russian posts myself, so I should not know that. [07-Feb-21 09:21 PM] shotfan#6872 (*Anything to gain) [07-Feb-21 09:23 PM] Raov#2531 send me any posts you are interested in for me to translate [07-Feb-21 09:23 PM] Raov#2531 or i can pick some that are the nastiest myself [07-Feb-21 09:24 PM] shotfan#6872 Well, you can do that, but it not like the knowledge is going to be credible on my part. [07-Feb-21 09:25 PM] shotfan#6872 Zero would just need to know it all. [07-Feb-21 09:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Just say you asked a russian friend [07-Feb-21 09:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Which is 100% accurate... [07-Feb-21 09:28 PM] Frax314#7488 It won't make you suspect in ANY way. [07-Feb-21 09:29 PM] Frax314#7488 Just do it. [07-Feb-21 09:29 PM] Frax314#7488 Maybe you can then expose it and Dreo's foul play to get other moderators with you. [07-Feb-21 09:31 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister already has been an asshole on the server, the language issue is inconsequential. [07-Feb-21 09:31 PM] shotfan#6872 The very act of doing slander on Doomkrakken is grevious enough. [07-Feb-21 09:32 PM] shotfan#6872 But you can show me examples. [07-Feb-21 09:32 PM] Frax314#7488 You can still expose Dreo. You know you'll get the other moderators' help if you find out one of the devs called you a fucking animal and said you buried yourself. [07-Feb-21 09:36 PM] shotfan#6872 They would call it a backtrack and deflect it as unimportant comment. [07-Feb-21 09:37 PM] shotfan#6872 One quote about digging is not going to do much. I already replied to the other, just before Lothar responded. [07-Feb-21 09:40 PM] Raov#2531 https://vk.com/wall124991252_9357 post caption: heres a sensitive bitch whoever wants to know her: [link] - some random kid = lister -do you do minecraft vids? =wha? -do you play minecraft? i do! hello? =what -hey so do you know minecraft =what the fuck do you want from me -what? =what? -im not dead i didnt understand alright cya =what do you want from me? -im sensitive (in female context) =sensitive huh -im not a girl i typo'd =well, i dont know mate so you dont even know why youre fucking with me? -so whats your age? im 9 =im 8 are you sure youre sensitive? -thats something you cant forget (??????????? even i dont understand what the kid said there) {Embed} https://vk.com/wall124991252_9357 Error | VK [07-Feb-21 09:40 PM] Frax314#7488 Hmm... [07-Feb-21 09:40 PM] Frax314#7488 what? [07-Feb-21 09:41 PM] Raov#2531 one of his posts that i promised to translate [07-Feb-21 09:42 PM] Raov#2531 tl;dr lister being a fuckin butthurt [07-Feb-21 09:42 PM] Raov#2531 just like he is rn [07-Feb-21 09:50 PM] Frax314#7488 Idk [07-Feb-21 10:04 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not know either. [07-Feb-21 10:05 PM] Raov#2531 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808050806859235348/Screenshot_20210208_000522.jpg [07-Feb-21 10:05 PM] shotfan#6872 ? [07-Feb-21 10:06 PM] Raov#2531 Okay I don't think we're on the same page [07-Feb-21 10:06 PM] Raov#2531 What did you not know [07-Feb-21 10:08 PM] shotfan#6872 I mean, I do not know what to do. [07-Feb-21 10:08 PM] shotfan#6872 I can fire now and demand a ban, and Lothar is going to most likely ignore it. [07-Feb-21 10:08 PM] shotfan#6872 I could also demand a vote, likely to be lost. [07-Feb-21 10:09 PM] shotfan#6872 If I do either, I guess I could leave the staff (if not the server), but that is not going to do much - their little clique that covers Lister will stay in place. [07-Feb-21 10:12 PM] shotfan#6872 I am corresponding with another moderator right now, that is not fine with what happened. [07-Feb-21 10:21 PM] shotfan#6872 They are not sure. Not giving me a firm answer for now. [07-Feb-21 10:31 PM] shotfan#6872 Looks like I cannot gather enough support for a moderator revolution... [07-Feb-21 10:31 PM] shotfan#6872 Seems that is what left to do is do my response and demand a vote on Lister's punishment. [07-Feb-21 10:32 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh wait [07-Feb-21 10:32 PM] shotfan#6872 ``@ȽʘɌƉ ȽʘŦḢɅɌ "אֵלִיָּהוּ" Li$ters behavior is completely out of line, this server exist for Schism and holy community of unholy DOOM (not it's petty dramas or stories). Without your intervention, this server is doomed to become a shithole for li$ters own personal drama which should be confined to his own server. Please see reason on this :RIP: [20:10] I respect this man's modding efforts tremendously, but that is all and is separate entirely from this server`` [07-Feb-21 10:33 PM] shotfan#6872 It is that moderator I just talked with, Scallysinx. [07-Feb-21 10:33 PM] shotfan#6872 Anyone here? Looks like I need to come out of the shadows right now. [07-Feb-21 10:53 PM] shotfan#6872 ``We cannot tolerate this abusive conduct of Lister any longer. Lister has misused our server too many times. I do not care how good he is at making Doom sourceports or anything else – he needs to respect the rules like everyone else. This behaviour needs to stop already. On my part, I suggest a final warning, but only because he has not been warned before. If he repeats his offenses yet again – any of them – that should be a ban.`` [07-Feb-21 10:54 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright, so you chose... [07-Feb-21 10:54 PM] shotfan#6872 I hope that there will be enough moderator traction to do anything about this. [07-Feb-21 10:55 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not feel that I had enough power for more drastic measures. [07-Feb-21 10:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Fine enough. [07-Feb-21 11:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Let's hope for the best... [07-Feb-21 11:36 PM] Frax314#7488 No updates yet? [08-Feb-21 01:02 AM] shotfan#6872 The only thing that happened is Prometheus saying that he agrees with me. [08-Feb-21 01:02 AM] shotfan#6872 What an accursed week... [08-Feb-21 05:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 anything else? [08-Feb-21 01:26 PM] shotfan#6872 No. [08-Feb-21 01:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright, so I guess it's over... till next time Lister bursts [08-Feb-21 01:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Tell Zero what you think you want to tell him I guess [08-Feb-21 09:36 PM] shotfan#6872 Hmm [08-Feb-21 09:36 PM] Raov#2531 Hmm? [08-Feb-21 09:37 PM] shotfan#6872 Prometheus just announced on the server that he is leaving the moderator role. [08-Feb-21 09:37 PM] shotfan#6872 The cause he has given is entering college soon. [08-Feb-21 09:37 PM] shotfan#6872 Interesting... [08-Feb-21 09:37 PM] shotfan#6872 I am suspecting that he might have more reasons. [08-Feb-21 09:38 PM] shotfan#6872 But I cannot be sure one way or another, and I do not know him well enough to ask him directly. [08-Feb-21 10:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Eh [08-Feb-21 10:24 PM] Frax314#7488 I would not investigate [08-Feb-21 10:24 PM] Frax314#7488 At most keep him informed if Li$ter tries his shit again AND gets off scot-free again. [08-Feb-21 10:24 PM] Raov#2531 I'd love to, but can't [08-Feb-21 10:24 PM] Raov#2531 And I'm exhausted after the lister deanon anyways [08-Feb-21 10:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Not what I mean [08-Feb-21 10:25 PM] Frax314#7488 Anyway [08-Feb-21 10:25 PM] Raov#2531 Imma pin the info I dug up for easy access in an "emergency" [08-Feb-21 10:25 PM] Frax314#7488 We will see if Li$ter and Lothar are tighly-knit enough that the former doesn't make the latter look like a buffoon... [08-Feb-21 10:25 PM] Raov#2531 Pinned a message. [08-Feb-21 10:25 PM] Raov#2531 Pinned a message. [08-Feb-21 10:25 PM] Raov#2531 Pinned a message. [08-Feb-21 10:26 PM] Raov#2531 Pinned a message. [08-Feb-21 11:02 PM] shotfan#6872 I have watched a little of LSD and I saw nothing special. [08-Feb-21 11:19 PM] Frax314#7488 I will fill you in [08-Feb-21 11:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Having played it a lot myself [08-Feb-21 11:20 PM] Frax314#7488 - Ridiculously artificial hardcore gameplay - Some cool features with the monsters, like ACS-powered AI on some bosses - An inventory menu on Zandronum (but other mods did that as well...) [08-Feb-21 11:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Basically, everyone in Lister's circlejerk overrates it a shit ton. [08-Feb-21 11:21 PM] Frax314#7488 And they will get mad if you just say you saw nothing special, hehe [08-Feb-21 11:24 PM] Frax314#7488 If you have any questions on it just ask me [08-Feb-21 11:25 PM] Frax314#7488 You'll need to be prepared if you ever need to argument about it... [08-Feb-21 11:25 PM] Frax314#7488 They like to bully people who naturally don't know anything of the mod as if they're supposed to [08-Feb-21 11:42 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 LSD > LSD [09-Feb-21 05:01 PM] polyzium#0481 I'm back once again [09-Feb-21 05:01 PM] Raov#2531 tha boi is back [09-Feb-21 05:01 PM] Raov#2531 i suggest you read pinned msgs [09-Feb-21 05:05 PM] shotfan#6872 Hi Polyzium. A lot has happened recently. [09-Feb-21 05:05 PM] Raov#2531 a lot is an understatement tbh [09-Feb-21 05:39 PM] shotfan#6872 I am thinking of asking Lothar what is his decision in the case of Lister. It is absurd enough that nothing has happened six days after the offense. [09-Feb-21 05:39 PM] shotfan#6872 I know what to expect though... [09-Feb-21 05:40 PM] shotfan#6872 And that makes me wonder: if nothing will be done, should I not just resign as a moderator. [09-Feb-21 05:52 PM] Frax314#7488 No. [09-Feb-21 05:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Just wait for Lister to do his thing again. [09-Feb-21 05:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Trust me, he will somehow. [09-Feb-21 05:53 PM] Frax314#7488 THEN you'll be able to call out Lothar on his bullshit and have 100% support from the non-lackey moderators. [09-Feb-21 05:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Imho that's what you should do. [09-Feb-21 05:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Well I can do hold for now. [09-Feb-21 05:56 PM] shotfan#6872 I will still ask him Lothar today and see his response. [09-Feb-21 05:57 PM] shotfan#6872 I have not seen Lister being active on the server since that infamous event, maybe he is laying low for the time being. [09-Feb-21 09:31 PM] polyzium#0481 OK so my phone was almost stolen a week ago lol [09-Feb-21 09:31 PM] polyzium#0481 Fucking army [09-Feb-21 09:32 PM] polyzium#0481 What has happened over the course of the last week or so? There are no pinned messages present [09-Feb-21 09:37 PM] Raov#2531 wha [09-Feb-21 09:37 PM] shotfan#6872 Good timing [09-Feb-21 09:37 PM] Raov#2531 tl;dr lister got doxed [09-Feb-21 09:37 PM] Raov#2531 we got his possible address [09-Feb-21 09:37 PM] Raov#2531 and his name-surname [09-Feb-21 09:38 PM] Raov#2531 last thing we need is his middle name and we can confirm if the address is correct [09-Feb-21 09:38 PM] shotfan#6872 What happened is that six days ago, Lister came to Schism server doing his slandering act, this time targeting DoomKrakken. [09-Feb-21 09:38 PM] shotfan#6872 A lot of bad shit went down in the server. [09-Feb-21 09:38 PM] Raov#2531 ^ [09-Feb-21 09:38 PM] Raov#2531 that too [09-Feb-21 09:38 PM] shotfan#6872 There was no response from Lothar, the server's owner. [09-Feb-21 09:38 PM] shotfan#6872 I am a moderator here, I demanded action. [09-Feb-21 09:39 PM] Frax314#7488 Everyone in Russia has a middle name? [09-Feb-21 09:39 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar was extremely apprehensive to do anything, hiding behind tracts of how great hacker Lister is. [09-Feb-21 09:39 PM] shotfan#6872 Obvious bullshit. [09-Feb-21 09:40 PM] Raov#2531 yeah [09-Feb-21 09:40 PM] Raov#2531 but it is more like a last name [09-Feb-21 09:40 PM] Raov#2531 and the last name is the middle name [09-Feb-21 09:40 PM] Raov#2531 but usually people list their name and surname on vk and stuff [09-Feb-21 09:40 PM] shotfan#6872 We had a moderator discussion about the punishment, most of the people who took a vote were pro punishment. [09-Feb-21 09:40 PM] shotfan#6872 Right now I am talking with Lothar about his decision [09-Feb-21 09:41 PM] polyzium#0481 what's Schism? [09-Feb-21 09:42 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar's Brutal Doom submod. [09-Feb-21 09:42 PM] shotfan#6872 Alright so [09-Feb-21 09:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar claims that he talked with Lister and reprimanded him [09-Feb-21 09:43 PM] shotfan#6872 OF COURSE [09-Feb-21 09:43 PM] shotfan#6872 I expected that. [09-Feb-21 09:43 PM] shotfan#6872 He did not any official warning, just some more buddy talk. [09-Feb-21 09:43 PM] shotfan#6872 And now I am arguing in that channel why it should be an official warning. [09-Feb-21 09:43 PM] shotfan#6872 What a fucking madhouse. [09-Feb-21 09:47 PM] shotfan#6872 tovRobi is arguing that it is not necessary to make our decisions official [09-Feb-21 09:48 PM] shotfan#6872 What a load of bullshit, probably another crony covering Lister [09-Feb-21 09:48 PM] shotfan#6872 All while I pull Lothar's tongue at every step [09-Feb-21 09:48 PM] polyzium#0481 that's some complicated relation hierarchy [09-Feb-21 09:49 PM] shotfan#6872 You have all in the screenshots I posted. [09-Feb-21 09:49 PM] shotfan#6872 Long story short, Lothar himself said that Lister has "special status" in his server because he is impressed with what Lister does. [09-Feb-21 09:50 PM] shotfan#6872 That is his excuse for letting Lister insult anyone he wants and threaten moderators via DMs. [09-Feb-21 09:51 PM] shotfan#6872 It is pale cronyism. [09-Feb-21 09:51 PM] shotfan#6872 I will stay here for now, but if Lister does that again and Lothar still covers him, it will be time to abandon the moderator and admin roles. [09-Feb-21 09:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah... just wait for the next chance to strike. [09-Feb-21 09:56 PM] Frax314#7488 I never saw this tovRobi around, so it might be he is just genuinely concerned about your aggressiveness... [09-Feb-21 09:57 PM] shotfan#6872 Heh [09-Feb-21 09:57 PM] shotfan#6872 What do I know [09-Feb-21 09:57 PM] Frax314#7488 You know what they say [09-Feb-21 09:57 PM] Frax314#7488 Assume genuinity [09-Feb-21 09:57 PM] Frax314#7488 (As long as it's not blatantly false...) [09-Feb-21 09:58 PM] shotfan#6872 For me it is near outright blatant falsehood, so I am not trusting him. [09-Feb-21 10:14 PM] shotfan#6872 Still no response. [09-Feb-21 10:14 PM] shotfan#6872 Should I demand that Lothar shows his DMs to Lister, or should I play dumb? [09-Feb-21 10:14 PM] Frax314#7488 Play dumb. [09-Feb-21 10:14 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, that would be an incendiary bomb right there. [09-Feb-21 10:15 PM] Frax314#7488 You will corner him hard if Li$ter pulls that shit again. If he doesn't, well, Schism server and any friends you have there will be free of his bs for the time being. [09-Feb-21 10:15 PM] shotfan#6872 Scally admitted to me privately that the situation is suspicious. [09-Feb-21 10:16 PM] Frax314#7488 For a small note: idkfa is a former LSD Discord member, you can trust him but he does not know as much as me. [09-Feb-21 10:16 PM] shotfan#6872 I think that I can count on two moderators leaving if I jump ship, but not 100% sure. [09-Feb-21 10:16 PM] shotfan#6872 Ah idkfa [09-Feb-21 10:16 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah he is there. [09-Feb-21 10:16 PM] shotfan#6872 He just told Lothar to fuck off when asked to do some more gore. [09-Feb-21 10:17 PM] Frax314#7488 He told Li$ter to fuck off immediately when it started if I remember well... [09-Feb-21 10:17 PM] shotfan#6872 What started? [09-Feb-21 10:17 PM] Frax314#7488 The original meltdown situation [09-Feb-21 10:17 PM] Frax314#7488 It's in your screenshots... [09-Feb-21 10:18 PM] shotfan#6872 Let me check [09-Feb-21 10:18 PM] Frax314#7488 Not outright fuck off be it clear, but the intention was that. [09-Feb-21 10:19 PM] shotfan#6872 Ah yes, ``Lister have spreaded some shit in main channel again lmao`` [09-Feb-21 10:20 PM] shotfan#6872 At this point the PB server seems like a cozy house compared to this stinky den. [09-Feb-21 10:20 PM] Frax314#7488 That is a commendable pair of balls he grew, compared to when he was still in there. [09-Feb-21 10:20 PM] shotfan#6872 And I had abandoned PB server a long time ago. [09-Feb-21 10:21 PM] shotfan#6872 So I got an impasse again. [09-Feb-21 10:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar just pulled out an excuse answer for me to stop bothering him [09-Feb-21 10:22 PM] shotfan#6872 And ignored the rest of the posts I made. [09-Feb-21 10:23 PM] shotfan#6872 The outwait tactic strikes again. [09-Feb-21 10:25 PM] Frax314#7488 It appears he doesn't want to lose you either though, to me [09-Feb-21 10:26 PM] Frax314#7488 Perhaps for the possible bad publicity. [09-Feb-21 10:27 PM] Frax314#7488 That, or more usefully, he can't just get more moderators... [09-Feb-21 10:29 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not think he cares about me that much. [09-Feb-21 10:29 PM] shotfan#6872 Besides, the day before the shit with Lister happened, another moderator had removed himself from the server, JMartinez. [09-Feb-21 10:30 PM] shotfan#6872 In his case, because the rest of the staff had enough of his censorship antics when it had come to talking about PB server community. [09-Feb-21 10:31 PM] shotfan#6872 I think that Lothar is too busy covering Lister to be afraid of the lack of moderators. [09-Feb-21 11:15 PM] shotfan#6872 holy shit [09-Feb-21 11:16 PM] Raov#2531 ? [09-Feb-21 11:16 PM] Frax314#7488 What happened? [09-Feb-21 11:16 PM] shotfan#6872 Took you long enough to counter me [09-Feb-21 11:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Wdym what is up [09-Feb-21 11:16 PM] shotfan#6872 ``Look [20:57] I talked to him in DM about it [20:57] Also, just to be clear how all the stuff looks like [20:57] I'd like to make it clear now [20:58] when Lister release his port, it will be free for players of all supported mods [20:59] "authorized" mods how he calls it [21:02] He told me that this port with all it's features will be free for all players of mods he support, no pay at all. However he demand only one thing for it - being lead-moderator of discord of this specific mod. That's how it looks. [21:03] I know that Pain and Sarge will accept it, i'm 99.9999% sure. [21:04] As well as most other leaders of valuable projects.(edited) [21:08] @shotfan also. If you want to kinda humilate Lister and make him shame in front of this server - it won't work this way. Like what I should announce? Literally write in #announcements with @ everyone "I told Lister that he is bad guy and will be kicked in ass if he shit on my carpet once again?"? Or what? [21:09] I have pretty strong feeling that no one care beside you and Zero about it. Like everyone already forgot all this stuff 10 times since it happened.`` [09-Feb-21 11:17 PM] shotfan#6872 Now what? [09-Feb-21 11:17 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh my god. [09-Feb-21 11:17 PM] Frax314#7488 Just oh my god. [09-Feb-21 11:17 PM] shotfan#6872 It is the fucking time now? [09-Feb-21 11:17 PM] shotfan#6872 Can I just get the fuck out? [09-Feb-21 11:18 PM] Frax314#7488 It is the fucking time. Guess you can tell him he's spineless if he lets such an unstable dude moderate his own community just to have a better sourceport. [09-Feb-21 11:23 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808795221080801310/unknown_3.png [09-Feb-21 11:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Can we use this? [09-Feb-21 11:26 PM] Frax314#7488 ...listen. [09-Feb-21 11:27 PM] Frax314#7488 If it's true it's free... you can leak it. [09-Feb-21 11:27 PM] Frax314#7488 If it's false... Lothar owes you a bit one. [09-Feb-21 11:27 PM] shotfan#6872 Owes me what? [09-Feb-21 11:27 PM] Frax314#7488 OR... you could give him my screenshot with the prices! [09-Feb-21 11:28 PM] Frax314#7488 If you feel like it. [09-Feb-21 11:28 PM] shotfan#6872 Sorry but I am about to throw my papers [09-Feb-21 11:28 PM] shotfan#6872 Which one? Can you dig it out? [09-Feb-21 11:28 PM] Frax314#7488 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/798258586441744408/20210111_193410.jpg {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/798258586441744408/20210111_193410.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786555353407029270/798258586441744408/20210111_193410.jpg [09-Feb-21 11:29 PM] Frax314#7488 Call his bullshit out if you will. [09-Feb-21 11:30 PM] Frax314#7488 At least Coole is reasonable, I guess! [09-Feb-21 11:31 PM] shotfan#6872 You sure? [09-Feb-21 11:31 PM] shotfan#6872 Your name is in there. [09-Feb-21 11:31 PM] Frax314#7488 I quit the Doom community, as you know. [09-Feb-21 11:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Lister can only whine that I am still a thorn to his side. [09-Feb-21 11:32 PM] Frax314#7488 As usual -- a friend left you this ;) [09-Feb-21 11:32 PM] shotfan#6872 All that will do in there is confirm that I knew something is up all the time. [09-Feb-21 11:32 PM] Frax314#7488 You yourself said you wanna just quit it at this point. [09-Feb-21 11:32 PM] shotfan#6872 Yes. [09-Feb-21 11:32 PM] Frax314#7488 So, if you wanna leave, do it with a bang. [09-Feb-21 11:33 PM] Frax314#7488 What you gonna do? [09-Feb-21 11:35 PM] shotfan#6872 Soon [09-Feb-21 11:38 PM] Raov#2531 I got time to see if Lister's alleged private profile is actually his [09-Feb-21 11:38 PM] Raov#2531 I hope he has at least one video with his voice [09-Feb-21 11:38 PM] Frax314#7488 but why bruh [09-Feb-21 11:39 PM] Raov#2531 To confirm that the name-surname pair I proposed is his [09-Feb-21 11:39 PM] Raov#2531 We want to spook him don't we? [09-Feb-21 11:42 PM] Frax314#7488 Ehhh [09-Feb-21 11:43 PM] Frax314#7488 I still think what we should know is his shadiness and wrong behaviour... [09-Feb-21 11:43 PM] Frax314#7488 Like how you identified his Olymp Trade background [09-Feb-21 11:43 PM] Raov#2531 He's still trading to this day btw [09-Feb-21 11:46 PM] Raov#2531 Wait I found 3 more pics [09-Feb-21 11:46 PM] Raov#2531 But still [09-Feb-21 11:46 PM] Raov#2531 He is for fucking sure shady af [09-Feb-21 11:47 PM] Raov#2531 I actually even got 4 [09-Feb-21 11:47 PM] Raov#2531 And faces are similar [09-Feb-21 11:47 PM] Frax314#7488 We need 100% certain misbehaviour more than anything. [09-Feb-21 11:47 PM] Raov#2531 Perfect [09-Feb-21 11:47 PM] Frax314#7488 We need 100% certain misbehaviour more than anything. [09-Feb-21 11:47 PM] Raov#2531 Well we might be able to dig deeper if we find his private profile [09-Feb-21 11:48 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 blocking other mods? [09-Feb-21 11:48 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 lame [09-Feb-21 11:48 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 call him a furry and report him for devious acts [09-Feb-21 11:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Lel [09-Feb-21 11:50 PM] shotfan#6872 Should I post your image to a public channel? [09-Feb-21 11:52 PM] Frax314#7488 No. Maybe you can get away with it, if Lothar is pressured by others who are mad at the fact, while posting publicly will get you instabanned. [09-Feb-21 11:52 PM] shotfan#6872 Then I am posting it to the moderator channel. [09-Feb-21 11:52 PM] shotfan#6872 And I am leaving the server, I am done there. [09-Feb-21 11:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Stay for a little, at least to see the other mods' reaction. [09-Feb-21 11:53 PM] Frax314#7488 So we can get a true idea of their allegiancies. [09-Feb-21 11:53 PM] Frax314#7488 For example, if Coole is just acting or is actually let down by Li$ter's behavior. [09-Feb-21 11:54 PM] shotfan#6872 It will not have such impact. [09-Feb-21 11:54 PM] shotfan#6872 I can ask Zero and Scally how it developed. [09-Feb-21 11:55 PM] shotfan#6872 I am ready to get the fuck of there. Now or never. [09-Feb-21 11:55 PM] Frax314#7488 Depends on how in Lothar really is. [09-Feb-21 11:55 PM] Frax314#7488 If he is actually being deceived to an extent, it's golden. [09-Feb-21 11:55 PM] shotfan#6872 Down the throat. [09-Feb-21 11:56 PM] Frax314#7488 You sent it you mean? [09-Feb-21 11:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Not yet. [09-Feb-21 11:56 PM] Frax314#7488 What does that idiom mean? [09-Feb-21 11:57 PM] shotfan#6872 But I want to make this over already. [09-Feb-21 11:57 PM] shotfan#6872 Well... something very gay something. [09-Feb-21 11:58 PM] Frax314#7488 Ah. [09-Feb-21 11:58 PM] shotfan#6872 Anything else? [09-Feb-21 11:58 PM] Frax314#7488 Lemme see... [09-Feb-21 11:59 PM] Raov#2531 Alright gang We got a better match Andrey Lachtachev DoB is May 16th, 1986 Private profile, no other info [09-Feb-21 11:59 PM] Frax314#7488 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/787617620887207966/20201213_105046.jpg {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/787617620887207966/20201213_105046.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786555353407029270/787617620887207966/20201213_105046.jpg [09-Feb-21 11:59 PM] Frax314#7488 This. [09-Feb-21 11:59 PM] Raov#2531 And overall all factors I gathered on the profile fit lister WAY better than others [09-Feb-21 11:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Sure, I will use this too. [09-Feb-21 11:59 PM] Raov#2531 And after hearing his voice he's definitely over 25 [09-Feb-21 11:59 PM] Frax314#7488 These two things. It's paid, and it's illegal. [10-Feb-21 12:00 AM] Frax314#7488 All you need to call out that bs. [10-Feb-21 12:00 AM] Raov#2531 Just in case, I'll throw this here {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808804471589175306/Screenshot_20210210_020000_org.mozilla.firefox.jpg [10-Feb-21 12:00 AM] Frax314#7488 Tell me if and when you wanna hit, Shotfan [10-Feb-21 12:01 AM] shotfan#6872 ? [10-Feb-21 12:01 AM] shotfan#6872 I want to resign right now, if that is what you mean. [10-Feb-21 12:02 AM] Frax314#7488 When you go posting those images I mean. And yeah you told me now heh [10-Feb-21 12:02 AM] shotfan#6872 ``tovRobi "Robi Fangirl"Today at 21:55 However he demand only one thing for it - being lead-moderator of discord of this specific mod - Jesus fucking Christ what a ЧСВ.`` [10-Feb-21 12:02 AM] shotfan#6872 I will post them to the moderator channel as I leave. [10-Feb-21 12:02 AM] shotfan#6872 Any moment now. [10-Feb-21 12:03 AM] Frax314#7488 @Raov immediate translation for that? [10-Feb-21 12:06 AM] Raov#2531 For the ЧСВ part? [10-Feb-21 12:06 AM] Raov#2531 That's a term [10-Feb-21 12:06 AM] Frax314#7488 The ЧСВ I mean. [10-Feb-21 12:06 AM] Frax314#7488 Yeah. [10-Feb-21 12:06 AM] Raov#2531 Lemme Google that, I never delved into what it means [10-Feb-21 12:07 AM] Raov#2531 ЧСВ - Чувство Само-Важности Or in English, feel of self-importance [10-Feb-21 12:07 AM] Raov#2531 Aka narcissism [10-Feb-21 12:07 AM] Raov#2531 Okay I got too much evidence to disprove Andrey lakhtachev as a fake name [10-Feb-21 12:08 AM] shotfan#6872 ``ȽʘɌƉ ȽʘŦḢɅɌ "אֵלִיָּהוּ"Today at 22:02 @tovRobi "Robi Fangirl" somehow, however without it he can't get rid of people he want because they are mods in few projects lmfao XD NEW tovRobi "Robi Fangirl"Today at 22:07 Is it even worth to do all this? I mean if he will manually block your mod. So what? There is other sourceports. And even so. Thats means that you not encouraging his altitude if you do how you want.`` [10-Feb-21 12:08 AM] Raov#2531 Over 90% similarity on like 15 pictures [10-Feb-21 12:12 AM] shotfan#6872 Alright, time to end this. [10-Feb-21 12:13 AM] shotfan#6872 Final update: [10-Feb-21 12:14 AM] shotfan#6872 ``(Lothar) he chasing his goals of vendetta over some specific high placed people in Doom community - Come on! We are in kindergarden or in government that there is place for such things?(edited) Coole. "Mayor Disrespect"Today at 22:09 :WHY: ȽʘɌƉ ȽʘŦḢɅɌ "אֵלִיָּהוּ"Today at 22:10 @tovRobi "Robi Fangirl" IDK is it worth or no, coz his port isn't released, however I'd like to keep considerable neutral position till it [22:11] and yeah, other... obsolete zandronum and mentally retarded GZDoom [22:11] choice of doomer...`` [10-Feb-21 12:15 AM] shotfan#6872 I told Zero to stay if he can. [10-Feb-21 12:15 AM] shotfan#6872 Here we go... [10-Feb-21 12:15 AM] Frax314#7488 Oh nice tovRobi is standing up [10-Feb-21 12:16 AM] Frax314#7488 You going, huh... lmk [10-Feb-21 12:17 AM] shotfan#6872 What? [10-Feb-21 12:17 AM] shotfan#6872 I am ending my stay. [10-Feb-21 12:18 AM] Frax314#7488 You did it? ~~What did it cost?~~ [10-Feb-21 12:20 AM] Raov#2531 YALL [10-Feb-21 12:20 AM] Raov#2531 LISTER FUCKING SHADY SHADY [10-Feb-21 12:20 AM] Raov#2531 I found like 5 companies on his possible name [10-Feb-21 12:20 AM] Raov#2531 All are closed but still [10-Feb-21 12:21 AM] Raov#2531 But I know his middle name now [10-Feb-21 12:21 AM] Raov#2531 Which is fucking PERFECT [10-Feb-21 12:21 AM] Raov#2531 guys we have officially got all his data [10-Feb-21 12:21 AM] Frax314#7488 Alright. [10-Feb-21 12:21 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 so Lister will be going to Brazil now [10-Feb-21 12:21 AM] Raov#2531 All companies are in Saint Petersburg, on his name too [10-Feb-21 12:22 AM] Raov#2531 The vk profile reported Saint Petersburg [10-Feb-21 12:22 AM] Raov#2531 The pictures from the account had 90% matches compared to what was found on Lister's main profile [10-Feb-21 12:22 AM] Raov#2531 Which means [10-Feb-21 12:22 AM] Raov#2531 Ladies and gentlemen We got him [10-Feb-21 12:23 AM] Raov#2531 Man I'm so fucking happy the search has ended [10-Feb-21 12:24 AM] shotfan#6872 ``Well, well. So you admit it. The scam with the paid sourceport is real after all. Thanks for answering that. That is why you had let Lister insult anyone he wanted. You knew all along. And in the case you have not noticed, not only Zero and I advocated for doing something about Lister. But you tried to wait us out, huh? Now you have made it clear that you care more about sucking Lister’s dick than maintaining an orderly community here. You reallly are that pathetic. I am finished dealing with you. I am stepping down from my functions here and leaving. Take this as the parting gift. Have a great time with your "special status" member. `` [10-Feb-21 12:25 AM] Frax314#7488 ~~Jackpot.~~ [10-Feb-21 12:25 AM] shotfan#6872 I also posted this image alongside the two others you gave me here today: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/808810791050018816/20210205_112814.jpg [10-Feb-21 12:25 AM] Frax314#7488 Well said, btw. [10-Feb-21 12:25 AM] Raov#2531 could not have worded better. [10-Feb-21 12:25 AM] shotfan#6872 Thanks guys. [10-Feb-21 12:25 AM] shotfan#6872 I got really fucking nervous. [10-Feb-21 12:25 AM] Raov#2531 Good job shotfan [10-Feb-21 12:25 AM] Raov#2531 I understand [10-Feb-21 12:25 AM] Raov#2531 I would be too [10-Feb-21 12:26 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 so does this mean the whole operation of shutting down this madness will end up with a success? [10-Feb-21 12:26 AM] Frax314#7488 Hopefully yes. [10-Feb-21 12:26 AM] shotfan#6872 I only gave the images to the Schism staff as of now. [10-Feb-21 12:27 AM] Frax314#7488 Remember that Zero will ask you what was up with that... [10-Feb-21 12:27 AM] shotfan#6872 Ah yeah. [10-Feb-21 12:27 AM] shotfan#6872 I will tell him, sure. [10-Feb-21 12:29 AM] shotfan#6872 That is a relief, being free of that server. [10-Feb-21 12:31 AM] Raov#2531 I really hope so too [10-Feb-21 12:34 AM] Raov#2531 Okay Jesus christ my mind is going creep mode [10-Feb-21 12:34 AM] Raov#2531 Had a thought of messaging his phone number with something like "hey lister, how's your doom mod going?" [10-Feb-21 12:35 AM] Raov#2531 That'll get him scared shitless probably [10-Feb-21 12:35 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 ^ [10-Feb-21 12:35 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 Yes officer [10-Feb-21 12:35 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 this guy right here [10-Feb-21 12:35 AM] Raov#2531 Lmao [10-Feb-21 12:39 AM] Raov#2531 Okay I may have gone too far [10-Feb-21 12:39 AM] Raov#2531 I got 3 possible addresses [10-Feb-21 12:39 AM] Raov#2531 And a confirmed phone number [10-Feb-21 12:40 AM] Raov#2531 He's done for gang [10-Feb-21 12:40 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 ok Raov is our BFG We use him as a last resort [10-Feb-21 12:40 AM] Raov#2531 If he proceeds to insult people we will get him [10-Feb-21 12:41 AM] Raov#2531 Oh hohoho I will sure be excited to release any and all info on him if shit goes down [10-Feb-21 12:41 AM] Raov#2531 I want his ass gone [10-Feb-21 12:41 AM] Raov#2531 Or at least teach him a lesson [10-Feb-21 12:43 AM] Raov#2531 New additions: his email [10-Feb-21 12:44 AM] Raov#2531 And a second phone number [10-Feb-21 12:46 AM] Frax314#7488 Eh alright [10-Feb-21 12:47 AM] shotfan#6872 Oh look [10-Feb-21 12:47 AM] shotfan#6872 4 new messages from Lothar [10-Feb-21 12:47 AM] Raov#2531 Send em in [10-Feb-21 12:48 AM] shotfan#6872 They are in Polish. [10-Feb-21 12:48 AM] shotfan#6872 More drivel about how great sourceport Lister has and a question whether do Pain and Sarge suck his dick too. [10-Feb-21 01:10 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 If they're sacrificing the integrity of the Doom modding community just to avoid having their audiences pay Lister royalties to use their mods, I'd say that "dick-sucking" is an accurate term. [10-Feb-21 01:12 AM] Frax314#7488 Just respond genuinely, I guess. [10-Feb-21 01:14 AM] Frax314#7488 And yeah, they'll be sucking his dick were that the case, lol is that even a question?? [10-Feb-21 01:14 AM] Frax314#7488 I gtg to sleep. Do smart [10-Feb-21 01:14 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 so wait Those 2 are with the whole idea for the source port? [10-Feb-21 01:14 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 also buonanotte dude [10-Feb-21 01:24 AM] shotfan#6872 Apparently. [10-Feb-21 01:24 AM] shotfan#6872 Lister claims that? [10-Feb-21 01:31 AM] shotfan#6872 Anyways, I told Lothar that it is bad enough that he bought into Lister's promises, and that he has no dignity for letting himself get extorted like that because he wants to stay competitive with BD and PB in popularity. [10-Feb-21 01:32 AM] shotfan#6872 And finished by saying that if he has any spine left, he should reject Lister's deal. [10-Feb-21 01:33 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 The BD fans in Romero's Discord are getting on my nerves [10-Feb-21 01:33 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 They really think sending a suicidal kid a Wikipedia article on suicide is 100% fine and totally going to help [10-Feb-21 01:34 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 wha? [10-Feb-21 01:34 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 really? [10-Feb-21 01:34 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Called the people who called Mark's BS out some "graf bitches" [10-Feb-21 01:34 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Like no dude it's called being a decent person [10-Feb-21 01:36 AM] shotfan#6872 deja vu [10-Feb-21 01:36 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 didn't know they are that bad [10-Feb-21 01:36 AM] shotfan#6872 Worse than their idol? [10-Feb-21 01:36 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 I mean I FUCKING LOVE BD but this shit is ridiculous [10-Feb-21 01:36 AM] shotfan#6872 I lost track whether Marcos got any better since that suicide instructions incident. [10-Feb-21 01:36 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 no wonder I quietly "walked away" from the doom community [10-Feb-21 01:37 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 and I am just there to steal whatever memes they share [10-Feb-21 01:37 AM] shotfan#6872 It is easier than it seems. [10-Feb-21 01:37 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 It's so fucking stupid [10-Feb-21 01:37 AM] shotfan#6872 I just have left a server, I know how it is like 😄 [10-Feb-21 01:38 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Like this is coming from me, a guy who believes most people who shit on Mark for years old things as virtue signallers [10-Feb-21 01:38 AM] shotfan#6872 But this time, it is his fanboys. [10-Feb-21 01:38 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 So much for Pan saying PB fanboys are worse than BD fanboys [10-Feb-21 01:39 AM] shotfan#6872 Pa1n? [10-Feb-21 01:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 No [10-Feb-21 01:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Pan from the QCDE Discord [10-Feb-21 01:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Hosted some tourneys [10-Feb-21 01:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 He recently left it tho [10-Feb-21 01:39 AM] shotfan#6872 Ah I see. [10-Feb-21 01:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Not sure why [10-Feb-21 01:39 AM] shotfan#6872 Well yeah [10-Feb-21 01:39 AM] shotfan#6872 PB and BD fanboys are more or less interchangeable [10-Feb-21 01:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Pain [10-Feb-21 01:40 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 No killer The pain remains [10-Feb-21 01:40 AM] shotfan#6872 lmao [10-Feb-21 01:40 AM] shotfan#6872 Tell me about it [10-Feb-21 01:40 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But anyways Shotfan did you leave the Doom incarnate server too? [10-Feb-21 01:40 AM] shotfan#6872 I abandoned his server because of how great they were at handling the feedback. [10-Feb-21 01:40 AM] shotfan#6872 No? [10-Feb-21 01:40 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Ah ok [10-Feb-21 01:41 AM] shotfan#6872 I am still there. [10-Feb-21 01:41 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Don't be alarmed that I left it I was just cleaning up my server list [10-Feb-21 01:41 AM] shotfan#6872 D3ath is a great guy, why I should leave? 😄 [10-Feb-21 01:41 AM] shotfan#6872 Ahh. [10-Feb-21 01:41 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 lol [10-Feb-21 01:41 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Yeah D3ath's cool [10-Feb-21 01:41 AM] shotfan#6872 In fact, I just posted something today there. [10-Feb-21 01:42 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Overall the moderation and dev team of PB are fine ...minus that time they didn't credit someone for work [10-Feb-21 01:42 AM] shotfan#6872 Not my experience. [10-Feb-21 01:42 AM] shotfan#6872 I gave them tons of suggestions and feedback. [10-Feb-21 01:42 AM] shotfan#6872 And they almost never responded. [10-Feb-21 01:42 AM] shotfan#6872 I got frustated enough to leave that behind. [10-Feb-21 01:43 AM] shotfan#6872 That, and I was not happy with the feature bloat. [10-Feb-21 01:43 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Well they didn't irrationally shit on you now did they? [10-Feb-21 01:43 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But yeah seems like they're adamant on keeping all the bloat [10-Feb-21 01:43 AM] shotfan#6872 Nah, just stayed silent, claiming that most of our suggestions are not even worth responding to. [10-Feb-21 01:43 AM] shotfan#6872 That was not pleasant to hear. [10-Feb-21 01:44 AM] shotfan#6872 So much for hadnling the community matters gracefully... [10-Feb-21 01:44 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 That's what happens when people recommend you stupid shit that piles up the actually good suggestions [10-Feb-21 01:44 AM] shotfan#6872 They are themselves to blame. [10-Feb-21 01:45 AM] shotfan#6872 If they talked with us more often, then we would have a better idea what to suggest in the first place. [10-Feb-21 01:45 AM] shotfan#6872 But I had got tired of talking to a wall and an occassional derogatory comment, so I packed my things and left. [10-Feb-21 01:48 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 F [10-Feb-21 01:49 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Packed my bags too when the Secreta Lounge told me they were a buncha chuds Then I left the Secreta Lounge cus I was a centrist [10-Feb-21 01:51 AM] shotfan#6872 ? [10-Feb-21 01:51 AM] shotfan#6872 I do not know any of that. [10-Feb-21 01:52 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 If you somehow didn't know most of the Secreta Lounge peeps are left-leaning cus they're nonbinary Now take that and a group of people who think saying "trap"'s fine and cops are good and you got a problem [10-Feb-21 01:56 AM] shotfan#6872 Ah yes, the cop shop hehe [10-Feb-21 01:57 AM] shotfan#6872 I saw enough shit in the PB-related channels. [10-Feb-21 02:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Lmao [10-Feb-21 02:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Sounds like you know something I don't [10-Feb-21 02:01 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 I just go there for memes [10-Feb-21 02:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 lol [10-Feb-21 02:01 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 I ignore the progress of the mod [10-Feb-21 02:01 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 cause since one of the major mods left [10-Feb-21 02:01 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 server's been dead [10-Feb-21 02:03 AM] shotfan#6872 You tell me Bulalo lol [10-Feb-21 02:04 AM] shotfan#6872 Basically I said everything about my reasons for leaving that server. [10-Feb-21 02:06 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Huh [10-Feb-21 02:06 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Well most of the devs/community's either full on Rightists or right leaning centrists [10-Feb-21 02:36 AM] shotfan#6872 So Lothar does not desist. [10-Feb-21 02:37 AM] shotfan#6872 He keeps saying how BD was the greatest Doom mod of its time, that Lister is a victim of bad publicity, and that Lister can sell what he programmed. [10-Feb-21 02:37 AM] shotfan#6872 Somebody ignores how open source code laws work... [10-Feb-21 04:19 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 what a fucking based take Tell him he's based and the best Doom mod is actually HDoom [10-Feb-21 07:29 AM] Raov#2531 Okay turns out I possibly got the wrong person [10-Feb-21 07:29 AM] Raov#2531 So now I'm basing my searches directly from his main profile [10-Feb-21 07:29 AM] Raov#2531 Got a phone and email already [10-Feb-21 08:40 AM] Raov#2531 okay names came up inconclusive [10-Feb-21 08:41 AM] Raov#2531 either he actually is sergei dragunov or idk [10-Feb-21 08:41 AM] Raov#2531 but what i DID get is his passwords [10-Feb-21 09:57 AM] Raov#2531 the passwords are valid and i just got into his twitter [10-Feb-21 09:58 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 uh [10-Feb-21 09:58 AM] Raov#2531 too illegal? [10-Feb-21 09:58 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 eh, I'll let Frax decide [10-Feb-21 09:58 AM] Raov#2531 i bet my ass it is illegal [10-Feb-21 09:58 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but just know, I'm not involved in any of this [10-Feb-21 09:58 AM] Raov#2531 but who cares in russia tbh [10-Feb-21 09:58 AM] Raov#2531 i know [10-Feb-21 09:58 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so if you get caught then I ain't an alibi [10-Feb-21 09:58 AM] Raov#2531 lmao [10-Feb-21 09:59 AM] Raov#2531 i know mate [10-Feb-21 09:59 AM] Raov#2531 nah i aint gonna delve in deeper [10-Feb-21 10:00 AM] Raov#2531 but the fact that i got a working password is something [10-Feb-21 10:00 AM] Raov#2531 he probably got a email or two about it, and with all that drama on him he is probably spooked rn [10-Feb-21 10:00 AM] Raov#2531 not as much as i would liked it but still spooked [10-Feb-21 10:00 AM] Raov#2531 maybe itll make at least some change, dunno [10-Feb-21 10:03 AM] Frax314#7488 what [10-Feb-21 10:03 AM] Frax314#7488 wtfff why did you get a password [10-Feb-21 10:03 AM] Raov#2531 a biproduct of trying to look up at least his name [10-Feb-21 10:03 AM] Raov#2531 got much more [10-Feb-21 10:03 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 did you find things that *are* his name then??? [10-Feb-21 10:04 AM] Raov#2531 i got a potential suspect, but the info does not really match [10-Feb-21 10:04 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 then this endeavor was essentially pointless???? [10-Feb-21 10:04 AM] Raov#2531 maybe he has two different personalities on the internet? [10-Feb-21 10:04 AM] Raov#2531 idfk [10-Feb-21 10:04 AM] Frax314#7488 Ehhh [10-Feb-21 10:04 AM] Raov#2531 nah mate not at all [10-Feb-21 10:04 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ok then I guess [10-Feb-21 10:04 AM] Frax314#7488 To be fair, I doubt Li$ter has an account for his real self [10-Feb-21 10:05 AM] Frax314#7488 Only his g a m e r self [10-Feb-21 10:06 AM] Raov#2531 possible [10-Feb-21 10:06 AM] Raov#2531 but would he be comfortable speakin to others on that account [10-Feb-21 10:06 AM] Raov#2531 idk [10-Feb-21 10:06 AM] Raov#2531 either way, the search is still on [10-Feb-21 10:06 AM] Raov#2531 but we are getting closer [10-Feb-21 11:48 AM] shotfan#6872 Raov, this is too much. [10-Feb-21 11:49 AM] shotfan#6872 I already do not approve of doxxing, but figuring out passwords is another level. [10-Feb-21 11:49 AM] shotfan#6872 Do not use any of that. [10-Feb-21 11:49 AM] Raov#2531 Didn't plan to [10-Feb-21 11:49 AM] Raov#2531 Neither will [10-Feb-21 11:50 AM] Raov#2531 i can **guarantee** you that. [10-Feb-21 11:51 AM] shotfan#6872 Good. [10-Feb-21 11:52 AM] Raov#2531 i was checking if the email i found belonged to the guy, thats all. no other use. [10-Feb-21 12:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Aight... [10-Feb-21 12:11 PM] Frax314#7488 But if you pull that shit again, Li$ter will be right about having the moral high ground compared to those who want to take him down [10-Feb-21 12:11 PM] Raov#2531 quick question you talking to me? [10-Feb-21 12:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah... [10-Feb-21 12:20 PM] Raov#2531 ye im not gonna dig any deeper [10-Feb-21 12:20 PM] Raov#2531 and even then the info im providing is last-resort [10-Feb-21 01:11 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 don't we have like 100 contingency plans at this point [10-Feb-21 01:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hell we don't even need the other 99 we could just tell everyone that he's a vehemently hateful person (in terms of race and gender) and we can leave it at that [10-Feb-21 01:40 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, let's drop that already. [10-Feb-21 10:10 PM] shotfan#6872 I filled Zero on us. [10-Feb-21 10:11 PM] shotfan#6872 He wanted to get in right away, but I had to deny him since we are full on this 🇧🇷 boat. [10-Feb-21 10:11 PM] Raov#2531 *s e r v e r* [10-Feb-21 10:11 PM] shotfan#6872 I promised him to keep him posted for the time being. [10-Feb-21 10:11 PM] Raov#2531 ***s e r v e r*** [10-Feb-21 10:11 PM] shotfan#6872 Now put a neon sign in here. [10-Feb-21 10:12 PM] Raov#2531 ok [10-Feb-21 10:12 PM] shotfan#6872 lol 😄 [10-Feb-21 10:13 PM] shotfan#6872 I have not heard any news from him about what is happening in the Schism server, so I suppose that my depature was not overly big of an event... [10-Feb-21 10:13 PM] Raov#2531 (pinned) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/809140035865280542/coollogo_com-71381233.png [10-Feb-21 10:13 PM] Raov#2531 Pinned a message. [10-Feb-21 10:13 PM] shotfan#6872 Hard luck, but I had to do it. [10-Feb-21 10:13 PM] shotfan#6872 Good job Raov [10-Feb-21 10:14 PM] shotfan#6872 Now make it flash [10-Feb-21 10:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Later. [10-Feb-21 10:16 PM] Frax314#7488 But will do. [10-Feb-21 10:16 PM] Raov#2531 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/809140800347701274/do_it.gif {Reactions} 😆 (2) [10-Feb-21 10:19 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I mean. [10-Feb-21 10:19 PM] iSpookulon#6763 If you guys want Zero here. [10-Feb-21 10:19 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Let me make some space. [10-Feb-21 10:19 PM] Raov#2531 the more the merrier [10-Feb-21 10:20 PM] shotfan#6872 Doomkrakken does want to get in? [10-Feb-21 10:20 PM] shotfan#6872 Or no news from him? [10-Feb-21 10:20 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I just read up, saw that zero wanted in. [10-Feb-21 10:21 PM] iSpookulon#6763 I don't really got a stake in this, you guys seem more invested and I have no real way to help with any of this. It's been fun, you guys keep at it. [10-Feb-21 10:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Just wait, he can wait too. [10-Feb-21 10:21 PM] iSpookulon#6763 Removed a recipient. [10-Feb-21 10:21 PM] Raov#2531 too late [10-Feb-21 10:21 PM] Raov#2531 at least now we got space [10-Feb-21 10:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Too bad. [10-Feb-21 10:21 PM] shotfan#6872 So, should I invite Zero now? [10-Feb-21 10:21 PM] Raov#2531 yes [10-Feb-21 10:22 PM] shotfan#6872 The sacrifice has been made... [10-Feb-21 10:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Hey, how do you invite to a group DM? [10-Feb-21 10:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Get friend request done [10-Feb-21 10:24 PM] Raov#2531 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/809142646924771328/unknown.png [10-Feb-21 10:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Then just add [10-Feb-21 10:24 PM] shotfan#6872 Hmm [10-Feb-21 10:26 PM] shotfan#6872 Invite sent. [10-Feb-21 10:27 PM] shotfan#6872 Added a recipient. [10-Feb-21 10:27 PM] Raov#2531 hey zero [10-Feb-21 10:27 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 NOO I CAME TO BRAZIL [10-Feb-21 10:27 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Hey hey people. [10-Feb-21 10:27 PM] Raov#2531 welcome to brazil [10-Feb-21 10:27 PM] Raov#2531 where lister gets mf doxed [10-Feb-21 10:27 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I knew the fucking polish toilet would shoot me into brazil. [10-Feb-21 10:27 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Goddamn it. [10-Feb-21 10:27 PM] Raov#2531 lmaooo [10-Feb-21 10:27 PM] shotfan#6872 Welcome to Brazil [10-Feb-21 10:28 PM] shotfan#6872 All boats drowned and jungle is burning [10-Feb-21 10:28 PM] shotfan#6872 So you are staying [10-Feb-21 10:28 PM] shotfan#6872 You can read everything we know here. [10-Feb-21 10:29 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Damn I thought I'd see some green after coming from the yellow brazil that is egypt. [10-Feb-21 10:29 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Yeah sure. [10-Feb-21 10:29 PM] Raov#2531 Changed the channel icon. [10-Feb-21 10:29 PM] Raov#2531 now this is true brazil [10-Feb-21 10:35 PM] Frax314#7488 Lmao [10-Feb-21 10:53 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Love the new logo [11-Feb-21 02:18 AM] shotfan#6872 I forgot to mention, Zero [11-Feb-21 02:18 AM] shotfan#6872 If you want, you can report on Schism server, since only you are there now. [11-Feb-21 02:19 AM] shotfan#6872 Thanks in advance. [11-Feb-21 02:57 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Lothar showing off his artsies in the Romero's Games Discord Did he actually paint those I wonder? [11-Feb-21 11:55 AM] shotfan#6872 I think so. He is a painter, sculptor and drawing artist. [11-Feb-21 12:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 very intriguing shame he's a vehement racist and transphobe [11-Feb-21 12:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 well I mean... now that I noticed... [11-Feb-21 12:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 that seems to be more than the norm for artists, at least for older ones... [11-Feb-21 12:49 PM] shotfan#6872 He is 26 though. [11-Feb-21 12:49 PM] shotfan#6872 But yes, the paintings are all his, this is true. [11-Feb-21 12:50 PM] shotfan#6872 Also, he is Polish born in Ukraine. Connect the dots. [11-Feb-21 12:50 PM] shotfan#6872 And as I told him myself, no skill can excuse lack of morals. [11-Feb-21 12:51 PM] shotfan#6872 The point is, you can be good at something but not be a good person... [11-Feb-21 12:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 well yeah [11-Feb-21 12:51 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not want to apply that description to himself, just yet. [11-Feb-21 12:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I just found it funny that a lot of artists that work with traditional or old stuff tend to be uh... *traditional* with their beliefs so to speak [11-Feb-21 12:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Lothar included [11-Feb-21 12:52 PM] shotfan#6872 I am still more thinking that he got persuaded by Lister that hard and cannot convince himself to reject Lister's company. [11-Feb-21 12:53 PM] shotfan#6872 That thing? It can be an effect of working with/on classical art. [11-Feb-21 12:53 PM] shotfan#6872 Seems like it creates some sort of conservative awe in people. [11-Feb-21 12:54 PM] Frax314#7488 That's just because art shares ideals. [11-Feb-21 12:54 PM] shotfan#6872 You know, "older times were better" and so on. [11-Feb-21 12:54 PM] Frax314#7488 Art is a vehicle of personal or public propaganda. [11-Feb-21 12:55 PM] shotfan#6872 Ideals differ though. [11-Feb-21 12:55 PM] shotfan#6872 Classical stuff - that what Lothar works on mostly - promotes classical ideals. [11-Feb-21 12:55 PM] shotfan#6872 Art is not neutral. [11-Feb-21 12:55 PM] shotfan#6872 As for propaganda, everyone with a brain and a heart has one. [11-Feb-21 12:56 PM] shotfan#6872 We communicate what we hold dear. [11-Feb-21 12:56 PM] Frax314#7488 There are different shades of interpretation to older art, of course [11-Feb-21 12:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Just the term itself is loaded thanks to state censorship and social engineering. [11-Feb-21 01:25 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 "Back in my day, we called sandwiches "Flat Freddies"! It cost four playing cards a bite." [11-Feb-21 01:36 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 That goes without saying but the problem is he just closed the situation after you left. [11-Feb-21 01:36 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 All what happened is. [11-Feb-21 01:37 PM] Raov#2531 bruh [11-Feb-21 01:37 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/809372451661676544/Screenshot_2021-02-11-12-35-51.png [11-Feb-21 01:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Damage control. [11-Feb-21 01:40 PM] Raov#2531 lister said "holy shit hes such a snowflake" [11-Feb-21 01:41 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And eagle? [11-Feb-21 01:41 PM] Raov#2531 "fuckin out of his mind." [11-Feb-21 01:41 PM] shotfan#6872 Moderation "standards". [11-Feb-21 01:41 PM] Raov#2531 ^^^ [11-Feb-21 01:41 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 At this point, Lothar's suckin so hard on that lister dick, it's coming out his rear end. [11-Feb-21 01:41 PM] shotfan#6872 Of course they would say it. [11-Feb-21 01:42 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh, Eagle is now against punishing Lister too? [11-Feb-21 01:42 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 It's saddening honestly. Lothar was better than this. [11-Feb-21 01:42 PM] Frax314#7488 Bruh [11-Feb-21 01:42 PM] Frax314#7488 Eagle is Li$ter's right hand [11-Feb-21 01:42 PM] Frax314#7488 No one's closer to him [11-Feb-21 01:42 PM] shotfan#6872 He seemed doing the opposite back when the drama happened in the public channel. [11-Feb-21 01:42 PM] shotfan#6872 Whatever. [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Raov#2531 so [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Raov#2531 do i leak [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Raov#2531 most of the shit i found on him [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Frax314#7488 No [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Raov#2531 EXCEPT SENSITIVE STUFF [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] shotfan#6872 No [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Frax314#7488 We will see what to do with that later [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Raov#2531 i dont want others abusing his shit [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] shotfan#6872 And I have to go now. [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Later. [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Raov#2531 aight cya [11-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Frax314#7488 Cya shotfan [11-Feb-21 01:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so [11-Feb-21 01:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 just remember I'll be vibing if you need me guys to leak it into the QCDE Discord [11-Feb-21 06:19 PM] shotfan#6872 Scally contacted me on her own to let me know that nothing changed in the server. [11-Feb-21 06:19 PM] shotfan#6872 She also gave me a screenshot where Lothar continues his drivel about how much of a special snowflake Lister is. [11-Feb-21 06:20 PM] shotfan#6872 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/809443803605762077/Screenshot_20210211-052000.png [11-Feb-21 06:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Nothing new, then [11-Feb-21 06:26 PM] shotfan#6872 She is not opposing Lothar's bullshit as strong as Zero and I, but since she decided to let me know by herself that means she is not right with what happened. [11-Feb-21 06:27 PM] shotfan#6872 I will try to ask her what else Lothar dumped on her to read in DMs. Probably more of the same that I already had heard from him. [11-Feb-21 06:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Nice. [11-Feb-21 06:35 PM] Fluffy#5319 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/809447523860742154/raw.png [11-Feb-21 06:35 PM] Fluffy#5319 Sorry I had to lol [11-Feb-21 06:37 PM] Fluffy#5319 "And I see major injustice in this" [11-Feb-21 06:37 PM] Fluffy#5319 You know, I don't think Lothar really understands who lister really is or why he's banned everywhere [11-Feb-21 06:37 PM] Frax314#7488 He does [11-Feb-21 06:38 PM] Frax314#7488 He is part of his circlejerk [11-Feb-21 06:38 PM] Frax314#7488 He's in his Discord [11-Feb-21 06:38 PM] Frax314#7488 He's simply on their side [11-Feb-21 06:39 PM] Fluffy#5319 How did he even get dragged into it? [11-Feb-21 06:39 PM] Fluffy#5319 From continuously being lied on about the past? [11-Feb-21 06:40 PM] shotfan#6872 No he deflects those claims [11-Feb-21 06:40 PM] Frax314#7488 I'm afraid he has just always been part of the russian Doom community where Lister has influence. [11-Feb-21 06:40 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar says that Sarge being banned everywhere is also unjustified. [11-Feb-21 06:40 PM] shotfan#6872 That is his mindset. [11-Feb-21 06:41 PM] shotfan#6872 The fact that even Sarge has - arugably - moral high ground compared to Lister is another matter. [11-Feb-21 06:41 PM] Fluffy#5319 Sarge being banned has nothing to do with the lister stuff though [11-Feb-21 06:41 PM] Fluffy#5319 But yeah [11-Feb-21 06:41 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar uses that as a comparison. [11-Feb-21 06:42 PM] Fluffy#5319 I just feel like people like Sarge never should've been a part of this in the first place [11-Feb-21 06:42 PM] shotfan#6872 Moreover, he himself compares to Sarge and Pain. [11-Feb-21 06:42 PM] shotfan#6872 He literally asked me whether these two suck Lister's dick too. [11-Feb-21 06:43 PM] shotfan#6872 He is looking for a way to placate his conscience. [11-Feb-21 06:43 PM] shotfan#6872 As for how he got dragged into this, ask him. [11-Feb-21 06:43 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Dear God, what a drama queen. [11-Feb-21 06:43 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not know him for too long. [11-Feb-21 06:43 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Lothar needs a bloody perspective reality check [11-Feb-21 06:43 PM] shotfan#6872 But from what I know, he had been a part of Russian Doom community for several years, and that is how he got involved with Lister. [11-Feb-21 06:43 PM] shotfan#6872 He does not listen. [11-Feb-21 06:44 PM] shotfan#6872 He keeps saying that he and Lister are victims of some black propaganda. [11-Feb-21 06:44 PM] Fluffy#5319 if lothar is smart he would've abandoned lister by now [11-Feb-21 06:44 PM] shotfan#6872 Not smart, more like of harder skeleton. [11-Feb-21 06:45 PM] shotfan#6872 I literally called him out on his integrity and he took that as me bullying Lister. [11-Feb-21 06:45 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Dude doesn't know what a "major injustice" is, if he thinks it also counts in getting banned from multiple communities due to repeated instances of garbage attitude and rule-breaking [11-Feb-21 06:45 PM] shotfan#6872 He said that demanding a public warn for him only means that Zero and I want to humiliate Lister. [11-Feb-21 06:46 PM] Fluffy#5319 It's just like being banned on steam's VAC server for cheating, there's no injustice in that [11-Feb-21 06:46 PM] shotfan#6872 By that point, it has been made clear that he had abandoned proper community rules in favour of sucking Lister's dick, as I told him when I GTFO'd. [11-Feb-21 06:47 PM] shotfan#6872 (*NOT of harder skeleton, specifically spine; fucking omitted negations) [11-Feb-21 06:47 PM] shotfan#6872 So yeah, you can be smart and skilled AND still be deep in some shady shit. [11-Feb-21 06:47 PM] shotfan#6872 There is some perverted love going on here. [11-Feb-21 06:49 PM] shotfan#6872 Does not help that his ambition to make Schism the greatest Doom mod reinforces his use of immoral tactics like sourceport extortion. [11-Feb-21 06:50 PM] Frax314#7488 He wants to make Schism the best mod? Lmao [11-Feb-21 06:50 PM] shotfan#6872 At least in popularity. [11-Feb-21 06:50 PM] Frax314#7488 That's... even... worse. [11-Feb-21 06:50 PM] Frax314#7488 I knew he was ModDB scum. [11-Feb-21 06:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 that's an impossible feat [11-Feb-21 06:51 PM] Frax314#7488 We all know the most popular mod is **Quake 4: Lighting Fast Mod: Doom Edition** [11-Feb-21 06:51 PM] shotfan#6872 That is what he said to me when explaining himself - that he needs to relocate the mod onto Listeronum (or whatever the fuck it is to be called) in order to help it stay competitive against BD and PB. [11-Feb-21 06:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***indeed*** [11-Feb-21 06:51 PM] shotfan#6872 This is such pathetic angle that I cannot fathom. [11-Feb-21 06:52 PM] shotfan#6872 It can be torn down in so many ways. [11-Feb-21 06:52 PM] shotfan#6872 How about other famous mods that won the popularity fairly, e.g. anything from Pillowblaster? [11-Feb-21 06:53 PM] Fluffy#5319 Pillowblaster's stuff is great [11-Feb-21 06:53 PM] shotfan#6872 How about the fact that BD is mostly finished by now and Sarge moved on, and that PB is such a mess that has unsure future before it? [11-Feb-21 06:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 we should simply tell him the most popular mod is **Quake 4: Lightning Fast Mod: Doom Edition** and it will never be overthrown [11-Feb-21 06:53 PM] Fluffy#5319 And I'm not surprise if lister also attempted to brainwash him too [11-Feb-21 06:54 PM] shotfan#6872 How about looking beyond just the BD family of mods, what else Doom community holds in high regard there? [11-Feb-21 06:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 **Quake 4: Lightning Fast Mod: Doom Edition** [11-Feb-21 06:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 man I wish Dox doesn't get dragged into this [11-Feb-21 06:54 PM] shotfan#6872 Or how about just telling to yourself that there is more to life than Doom modding? [11-Feb-21 06:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he seems like a genuinely nice guy who just wants to mod BD [11-Feb-21 06:55 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 impossible, because **Quake 4: Lightning Fast Mod: Doom Edition** is life [11-Feb-21 06:55 PM] shotfan#6872 I just told him that he it is bad enough that he bought into Lister's promises of BESTEST SOURCEPORT EVAH [11-Feb-21 06:55 PM] shotfan#6872 How fucking gullible is he? [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah right, Dox... [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] shotfan#6872 WAIT [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Dox? [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh boy here it comes [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] Frax314#7488 I'm not sure, but we might have to tell him... [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/809452834562375690/mood_2.png [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] shotfan#6872 The guy that makes BD addons? [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] Fluffy#5319 No? [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yeah [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh fuck [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 met him in the PB Discord, saw him again in Romero's Discord [11-Feb-21 06:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Why? What happened? [11-Feb-21 06:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he seems like a nice dude [11-Feb-21 06:57 PM] shotfan#6872 I have him as a part of the LiTDoom dev team. [11-Feb-21 06:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wait you're not dropping a massive truth bomb or smth? [11-Feb-21 06:57 PM] shotfan#6872 What is important to tell him? [11-Feb-21 06:57 PM] Fluffy#5319 Dox is literally in the complexity server, and seems to be in good terms with people like craneo [11-Feb-21 06:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I was expecting a massive truth bomb [11-Feb-21 06:57 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah Dox has always been a chill dude. [11-Feb-21 06:57 PM] shotfan#6872 Is he in collusion with Lister too? [11-Feb-21 06:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yay :D [11-Feb-21 06:57 PM] shotfan#6872 No? [11-Feb-21 06:57 PM] Fluffy#5319 For him to be a part of lister is gonna be fuck [11-Feb-21 06:58 PM] shotfan#6872 ``part of Lister`` [11-Feb-21 06:58 PM] shotfan#6872 Jesus Fluffy mind your words [11-Feb-21 06:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Not sure, but since iirc Project Complexity = big evil to Lister's gang [11-Feb-21 06:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 then no [11-Feb-21 06:58 PM] Fluffy#5319 Yeah honestly [11-Feb-21 06:58 PM] shotfan#6872 I sure hope so. [11-Feb-21 06:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 is popguy cool too? [11-Feb-21 06:58 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not want another rotten apple in a server that I actually care about. [11-Feb-21 06:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 made that utterly broken CSSG addon for PB [11-Feb-21 06:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Popguy? [11-Feb-21 06:59 PM] shotfan#6872 I thought CSG is a creation of The Barge. [11-Feb-21 06:59 PM] Frax314#7488 Popguy seemed chill last time I saw him. [11-Feb-21 06:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Alongside several other addons for BD and PB. [11-Feb-21 06:59 PM] shotfan#6872 But FWIK Barge left the community a long time ago now. [11-Feb-21 07:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 F [11-Feb-21 07:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so overall people I definitely need to watch out for are Pa1n Sarge Lister Lothar that's it? [11-Feb-21 07:01 PM] Fluffy#5319 Eagle [11-Feb-21 07:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 any cronies by name, minus Anime Punk [11-Feb-21 07:01 PM] Fluffy#5319 Mr. Satan also probably [11-Feb-21 07:01 PM] Frax314#7488 Hmm Annihilator 667 I told you [11-Feb-21 07:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ok ok [11-Feb-21 07:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I know Kinnerokhn already [11-Feb-21 07:01 PM] Frax314#7488 Nah I'm fairly sure Mr. Satan isn't his crony [11-Feb-21 07:01 PM] shotfan#6872 For now, Dox seems fine. [11-Feb-21 07:02 PM] Frax314#7488 Considering how Li$ter talked about him [11-Feb-21 07:02 PM] shotfan#6872 I hope. [11-Feb-21 07:02 PM] shotfan#6872 Dreo [11-Feb-21 07:02 PM] shotfan#6872 But you know that already I guess [11-Feb-21 07:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wouldn't be too sure bout that; Lister sounds like the kind of guy who backstabs allies [11-Feb-21 07:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 (Not Allie lmao) [11-Feb-21 07:02 PM] Frax314#7488 He was not in the server. [11-Feb-21 07:02 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar named him as another "victim". [11-Feb-21 07:02 PM] Frax314#7488 Huh [11-Feb-21 07:02 PM] shotfan#6872 Heh [11-Feb-21 07:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Victim of nonexistent black propoganda? [11-Feb-21 07:03 PM] Frax314#7488 I gtg a moment [11-Feb-21 07:03 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 racist people gotta step up their game smh [11-Feb-21 07:03 PM] Fluffy#5319 What if Lothar can't leave the LSD stuff no matter what, like if there's something that is forcing him to do what he says? [11-Feb-21 07:03 PM] shotfan#6872 So extra suspicious [11-Feb-21 07:03 PM] Fluffy#5319 Imagine that [11-Feb-21 07:03 PM] shotfan#6872 Blackmail? [11-Feb-21 07:03 PM] Frax314#7488 That would be the shittiest thing ever but I suppose not. [11-Feb-21 07:03 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hmm... like Lister has access to dox-able stuff? [11-Feb-21 07:03 PM] Fluffy#5319 It's just a thought [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 was thinking about it [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] Frax314#7488 Otherwise he wouldn't have been so active in the LSD Discord. [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not know either. [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 once again, Lister sounds like the type that would cross friends to get what he wants [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 May or may not be unrelated, but what of DBT and Michaelis? [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] shotfan#6872 no shit [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Does Lister have any plans with them/has approached them at all? [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so it wouldn't be *too* unrealistic [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] Frax314#7488 He mocked QZandro once [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, good question RB. [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] Frax314#7488 And said Michaelis defended CF someway [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] Frax314#7488 So they are his enemies [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 no. **Quake 4: Lightning Fast Mod: Doom Edition** is already too big of a threat to deal with [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] shotfan#6872 DBT's mods are some of the most popular after all. [11-Feb-21 07:04 PM] shotfan#6872 Thanks Bulalo [11-Feb-21 07:05 PM] Frax314#7488 The enemy of my enemy is my friend [11-Feb-21 07:05 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Jolly [11-Feb-21 07:05 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 So I guess QCDE is gonna cost extra then... [11-Feb-21 07:05 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~How about HDoom~~ [11-Feb-21 07:05 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~yes this one~~ [11-Feb-21 07:06 PM] shotfan#6872 How? [11-Feb-21 07:06 PM] shotfan#6872 CF is which side? [11-Feb-21 07:06 PM] Frax314#7488 Li$ter's most hated. [11-Feb-21 07:06 PM] shotfan#6872 I though they are against Lister? [11-Feb-21 07:06 PM] shotfan#6872 So [11-Feb-21 07:06 PM] Frax314#7488 CF devs have dissolved [11-Feb-21 07:07 PM] Frax314#7488 But Li$ter still has a bone to pick with them [11-Feb-21 07:07 PM] shotfan#6872 That should make them the *least* likely of approving Lister's scam. [11-Feb-21 07:07 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 (pinned) unless Lister can make a mod stronger enough to beat **Quake 4: Lightning Fast Mod: Doom Edition** then his products would pale in comparison to the might and sheer strength of the BEHEMOTH that is **Quake 4: Lightning Fast Mod: Doom Edition** Give me ONE GOOD REASON why Lister should be able to topple **Quake 4: Lightning Fast Mod: Doom Edition** in terms of graphics, design, gameplay, and overall maximum quality. There's a reason why its channel in the QCDE Discord is so barren; because everyone's too busy playing **Quake 4: Lightning Fast Mod: Doom Edition** to talk about it. LSD? More like Marijuana, cus it makes me sleep like a little baby when compared to the SHEER EPICNESS OF **Quake 4: Lightning Fast Mod: Doom Edition** [11-Feb-21 07:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Fluffy was part of the CF community, so... [11-Feb-21 07:07 PM] shotfan#6872 oh fuck [11-Feb-21 07:07 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ~~can we pin this fr~~ [11-Feb-21 07:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Pinned a message. [11-Feb-21 07:08 PM] shotfan#6872 I need to play **Quake 4: Lightning Fast Mod: Doom Edition** right now [11-Feb-21 07:08 PM] shotfan#6872 How could I have missed it?! [11-Feb-21 07:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Lul [11-Feb-21 07:08 PM] Fluffy#5319 CF did dissolve, it split into to groups which is either Nexus or Mr. Satan's bs [11-Feb-21 07:09 PM] Fluffy#5319 Things like CF 4.1.3 that was banned on TSPG for mentioning someone being cringe [11-Feb-21 07:09 PM] Fluffy#5319 But yeah [11-Feb-21 07:09 PM] Fluffy#5319 The only "sane" part of CF now is nexus imo [11-Feb-21 07:10 PM] Frax314#7488 ***~~Implying CF is sane~~*** [11-Feb-21 07:10 PM] Frax314#7488 okno [11-Feb-21 07:10 PM] Fluffy#5319 lol [11-Feb-21 07:10 PM] Fluffy#5319 Sane if probably not the right word [11-Feb-21 07:10 PM] Fluffy#5319 Functioning [11-Feb-21 07:11 PM] Fluffy#5319 But yeah the whole thing is just stupid when it comes to that, it'll never be as meaningful as it once was [11-Feb-21 07:12 PM] Fluffy#5319 it's nothing compared to what lister's trying to do [11-Feb-21 07:13 PM] Fluffy#5319 Something that may get the entire zdoom/zandronum community involved [11-Feb-21 07:15 PM] shotfan#6872 Well yes, ideally. [11-Feb-21 07:15 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister's conspiracy is aimed at damaging those two. [11-Feb-21 07:18 PM] Fluffy#5319 I also remember when Craneo said Satan was an LSD spy [11-Feb-21 07:18 PM] Fluffy#5319 lol [11-Feb-21 07:18 PM] Fluffy#5319 That alone almost got him banned on TSPG [11-Feb-21 07:19 PM] Fluffy#5319 Speaking about lister is almost like a taboo at this point [11-Feb-21 07:19 PM] Fluffy#5319 Or that's what I thought.... [11-Feb-21 07:25 PM] shotfan#6872 TSPG is kil? [11-Feb-21 07:26 PM] Fluffy#5319 No [11-Feb-21 07:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Kinda. [11-Feb-21 07:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Mifu said it might be shut down in the future. [11-Feb-21 07:29 PM] shotfan#6872 Ah yes [11-Feb-21 07:30 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister screamed something about Doomkrakken sucking Mifu's dick [11-Feb-21 07:30 PM] shotfan#6872 Mifu also did a leak IIRC [11-Feb-21 07:31 PM] Fluffy#5319 Maybe [11-Feb-21 07:31 PM] Fluffy#5319 Things like TSPG shutting down just erases the point of zandronum [11-Feb-21 07:34 PM] Fluffy#5319 Mifu also stepped down as TSPG's owner [11-Feb-21 07:34 PM] Fluffy#5319 Now it's Nax and Marcaek [11-Feb-21 07:36 PM] Fluffy#5319 That means lister can't target him anymore, big sad for him [11-Feb-21 07:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Marcaek... [11-Feb-21 07:36 PM] Frax314#7488 He is from Doomworld, isn't he? [11-Feb-21 07:36 PM] Frax314#7488 He'll be royally pissed once that shit is out in the open. [11-Feb-21 07:38 PM] Fluffy#5319 Don't know much about those two actually [11-Feb-21 07:39 PM] Fluffy#5319 But yeah, if lister reads this.... good luck buddy [12-Feb-21 03:47 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so... [12-Feb-21 03:47 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 the supposed Listernum release is at March right [12-Feb-21 05:33 AM] Raov#2531 i think so [12-Feb-21 10:17 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Started a call that lasted 0 minutes. [12-Feb-21 10:18 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 fuck [12-Feb-21 10:18 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 misclick [12-Feb-21 10:18 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 my bad [12-Feb-21 02:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so uh [12-Feb-21 02:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 any updates [12-Feb-21 02:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Nope [12-Feb-21 02:22 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 k [12-Feb-21 05:03 PM] shotfan#6872 I have something, although tangenial. [12-Feb-21 05:03 PM] shotfan#6872 Scally said that she is considering leaving Discord entirely. [12-Feb-21 05:03 PM] shotfan#6872 Not only you got fed up with this community, Frax... [12-Feb-21 05:04 PM] shotfan#6872 Gotta love toxic people alienating their own staffmates. [12-Feb-21 05:05 PM] shotfan#6872 She said she does not approve of what Lothar is doing, and I suppose she is considering resignating, seeing how hopeless he is. [12-Feb-21 05:07 PM] shotfan#6872 After all, sometimes leaving is the only thing one can do when faced with immoral practices within their group. [12-Feb-21 06:09 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh, you'll see how many will quit when Listeronum drops. [12-Feb-21 06:10 PM] Raov#2531 but youll never guess what will drop if listeronum will be paid [12-Feb-21 06:28 PM] shotfan#6872 Then when we will drop our bombs? [12-Feb-21 06:28 PM] shotfan#6872 I hear that time is running out. [12-Feb-21 06:32 PM] Frax314#7488 That's what I meant [12-Feb-21 06:32 PM] Frax314#7488 Anyway, I'm not sure what we can do except reacting. We have no means to offense. [12-Feb-21 06:33 PM] Raov#2531 i do [12-Feb-21 06:33 PM] shotfan#6872 Who else we could inform of the scam? [12-Feb-21 06:33 PM] shotfan#6872 That is how we could attack. [12-Feb-21 06:36 PM] Raov#2531 i plan to drop mine on the day of release if it is in fact paid [12-Feb-21 06:37 PM] Raov#2531 either that or after ristovski decompiles the port and confirms the source code was stolen [12-Feb-21 06:39 PM] shotfan#6872 Well no shit [12-Feb-21 06:40 PM] shotfan#6872 Using id's source code to make a paid product is already illegal. [12-Feb-21 06:40 PM] shotfan#6872 So we wait for that? [12-Feb-21 06:41 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 how much is he masturbating online to call his sourceport listernoum [12-Feb-21 06:41 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 my nigga really loves himself [12-Feb-21 06:41 PM] Raov#2531 oo i hear da Nword [12-Feb-21 06:41 PM] Frax314#7488 My exact first reaction. [12-Feb-21 06:41 PM] Frax314#7488 When the port's name was unveiled. [12-Feb-21 06:42 PM] shotfan#6872 I WILL CALL IT LIQUIDIA [12-Feb-21 06:42 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Oh noo I can't say the nigga word even though I'm egyptian and live there [12-Feb-21 06:42 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I have the golden n word pass bro [12-Feb-21 06:42 PM] Raov#2531 nah my nigga i say it too at times [12-Feb-21 06:42 PM] Raov#2531 gimme a copy [12-Feb-21 06:43 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 That's a nigga I can trust [12-Feb-21 06:43 PM] shotfan#6872 A copy of a nigga? [12-Feb-21 06:43 PM] Raov#2531 a copy of The nword Pass™️ [12-Feb-21 06:43 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Just go farm them in the south African server then [12-Feb-21 06:43 PM] shotfan#6872 oof [12-Feb-21 06:43 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I heard that's how Elon got his pass [12-Feb-21 06:43 PM] shotfan#6872 That is a endgame farming territory [12-Feb-21 06:44 PM] shotfan#6872 You need legendary loot like Neopup and Power Armor to survive there [12-Feb-21 06:44 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 yeah it's only for veteran n word enthusiasts [12-Feb-21 07:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Nice [12-Feb-21 07:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Hard Rs [12-Feb-21 07:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Just what I needed [12-Feb-21 07:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Are we *sure* I shouldn't leak it to the QCDE Discord yet? [12-Feb-21 07:58 PM] Frax314#7488 Don't just yet [12-Feb-21 08:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Remember It might well come later than March [12-Feb-21 08:11 PM] Frax314#7488 Besides [12-Feb-21 08:11 PM] Frax314#7488 QCDE staff is already aware I believe [12-Feb-21 08:12 PM] Frax314#7488 And so are at least some moderators of its Discord [13-Feb-21 03:43 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Hmm [13-Feb-21 07:26 PM] shotfan#6872 Lothar posted this to his and Zero's server {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/810185044534493245/130221_1724.png [13-Feb-21 07:28 PM] shotfan#6872 I suppose that he is trying to whitewash himself. [13-Feb-21 07:41 PM] shotfan#6872 I replied that I already had said everything and I am not continuing the topic. [13-Feb-21 07:41 PM] Raov#2531 potato quality [13-Feb-21 07:41 PM] Raov#2531 you got any higher res? [13-Feb-21 07:41 PM] Raov#2531 its readable ofc but you have to squint your eyes real bad [13-Feb-21 07:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh wait, yeah [13-Feb-21 07:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Hold on [13-Feb-21 07:43 PM] Raov#2531 i read it through doe [13-Feb-21 07:43 PM] Raov#2531 "we wont delete any posts" [13-Feb-21 07:44 PM] Raov#2531 b u l l s h i t [13-Feb-21 07:44 PM] shotfan#6872 Here, this is the proper resolution: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/810189649497948200/130221_1744.png [13-Feb-21 07:57 PM] Raov#2531 >i've granted scholarship [13-Feb-21 07:57 PM] Raov#2531 flexin huh [13-Feb-21 07:58 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 that makes it easier to troll people like that [13-Feb-21 07:58 PM] Raov#2531 exactly [13-Feb-21 07:58 PM] Raov#2531 nobody cares mate [13-Feb-21 07:58 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 you graduated college? And you are the big stupid? Let the bullying commence [14-Feb-21 11:49 AM] Frax314#7488 (pinned) https://discord.gg/crtSMJW Just for reference in case anybody wants to spy [14-Feb-21 11:49 AM] Frax314#7488 Pinned a message. [14-Feb-21 11:49 AM] Raov#2531 fuck yes i will spy there [14-Feb-21 11:49 AM] Frax314#7488 You have to PM Li$ter [14-Feb-21 11:49 AM] Frax314#7488 For full access [14-Feb-21 11:49 AM] Frax314#7488 Say you're interested in the mod or in the port or whatever [14-Feb-21 11:53 AM] Raov#2531 alright pretended to play doom a lil bit and have no presence on any forum [14-Feb-21 11:54 AM] Frax314#7488 That was specific as fuck but ok [14-Feb-21 11:54 AM] Frax314#7488 Should've been vague [14-Feb-21 11:54 AM] Frax314#7488 Like a ModDBlet [14-Feb-21 11:54 AM] Raov#2531 also you dont have to PM him, there is a channel for that [14-Feb-21 11:54 AM] Frax314#7488 They don't read messages there iirc. [14-Feb-21 11:55 AM] Frax314#7488 Unless I'm wrong. [14-Feb-21 11:55 AM] Frax314#7488 Wait a bit [14-Feb-21 11:55 AM] Raov#2531 we'll see [14-Feb-21 11:55 AM] Frax314#7488 Then if it doesn't work just PM him [14-Feb-21 11:55 AM] Raov#2531 ye mate aint the first day on the internet [14-Feb-21 11:58 AM] Raov#2531 damn tbh i might get fucked to death there with my pfp and custom status [14-Feb-21 11:58 AM] Raov#2531 especially lister [14-Feb-21 11:58 AM] Raov#2531 the guys hella picky as ive seen from his prev behaviour [14-Feb-21 11:59 AM] Frax314#7488 Oh shit [14-Feb-21 11:59 AM] Frax314#7488 Right [14-Feb-21 11:59 AM] Frax314#7488 Better get an alt... [14-Feb-21 11:59 AM] Raov#2531 too late i think [14-Feb-21 12:00 PM] Frax314#7488 You can just quit as long as you did not PM. [14-Feb-21 12:00 PM] Raov#2531 i did not yet [14-Feb-21 12:00 PM] Frax314#7488 Then enter with an alt and another presentation [14-Feb-21 12:00 PM] Raov#2531 guess ill tidy myself up there [14-Feb-21 12:01 PM] Raov#2531 copypasting my message here so i dont forget what i said ```в дум не так много играю, а на форумах меня вообще нет. listeronum достаточно сильно заинтересовал так что решил зайти посмотреть что да как тут если надо помощи попросить``` [14-Feb-21 12:01 PM] Raov#2531 Pinned a message. [14-Feb-21 12:01 PM] Raov#2531 ill unpin this later [14-Feb-21 12:18 PM] Frax314#7488 JESUS [14-Feb-21 12:18 PM] Raov#2531 ? [14-Feb-21 12:19 PM] Frax314#7488 That's super specific [14-Feb-21 12:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Damn it How do you - Not play Doom much - Not be on the major forums yet - know Listeronum [14-Feb-21 12:19 PM] Raov#2531 i lurk on forums is what i meant [14-Feb-21 12:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Let's hope for the best anyway [14-Feb-21 12:20 PM] Raov#2531 nah i left the server and cleaned after myself so i can join with an alt [14-Feb-21 12:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Only say you know the mod, best way to know all [14-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Frax314#7488 ...what the fuck did I write [14-Feb-21 01:43 PM] Frax314#7488 best way to *introduce yourself without suspicion [14-Feb-21 10:26 PM] Fluffy#5319 Thought that server would have a lot more members [14-Feb-21 10:26 PM] Fluffy#5319 Guess not [14-Feb-21 10:26 PM] Fluffy#5319 I have an alias I can use, but well [14-Feb-21 10:27 PM] Fluffy#5319 Not really so sure if spying is a good idea [14-Feb-21 10:28 PM] Fluffy#5319 What are the benefits for spying there anyways? [14-Feb-21 10:30 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~Respect +~~ [14-Feb-21 11:10 PM] Fluffy#5319 When Lothar and Lister {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/810603997421109329/video0-6.mp4 [14-Feb-21 11:11 PM] Raov#2531 Lmao [14-Feb-21 11:12 PM] shotfan#6872 what the- [14-Feb-21 11:26 PM] Frax314#7488 Kekw [15-Feb-21 09:07 PM] shotfan#6872 We are having Lister doing a little self-promotion show on LiTDoom server [15-Feb-21 09:07 PM] shotfan#6872 Hmmm [15-Feb-21 09:09 PM] Raov#2531 getting people hyped huh [15-Feb-21 09:10 PM] shotfan#6872 Posts screenshots, claims that his maps can support 38k monsters, advertises multicore CPU support [15-Feb-21 09:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Well shit [15-Feb-21 09:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Stop him the best you can [15-Feb-21 09:11 PM] shotfan#6872 How exactly? [15-Feb-21 09:11 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 but can it run Crysis? [15-Feb-21 09:11 PM] Frax314#7488 I don't know. Maybe tell the other mdoerators. [15-Feb-21 09:11 PM] shotfan#6872 I cannot just say he tells lies, I have no proof for something does not exist yet. [15-Feb-21 09:11 PM] shotfan#6872 Zero is already there too. [15-Feb-21 09:11 PM] Frax314#7488 What he says is true. [15-Feb-21 09:11 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 also say that if his source port can run nuts with PB and causes no issues, then it's real [15-Feb-21 09:11 PM] shotfan#6872 Sooooooo [15-Feb-21 09:11 PM] shotfan#6872 What do you even demand from me then [15-Feb-21 09:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Warn the other moderators about what he's done. To keep a look on him... [15-Feb-21 09:12 PM] Frax314#7488 And so that they do not simp for him, of course. [15-Feb-21 09:12 PM] shotfan#6872 The only other moderator is Zero. [15-Feb-21 09:13 PM] shotfan#6872 Wolf had already banned him once there, but Lister begged an unban out of him. [15-Feb-21 09:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Dev staff? Anyone with moderating powers who might fall for him [15-Feb-21 09:13 PM] shotfan#6872 Only Wolf, the owner. [15-Feb-21 09:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright [15-Feb-21 09:13 PM] shotfan#6872 So that is everyone in power in there covered. [15-Feb-21 09:13 PM] Raov#2531 i think the only vector of attack is GPL2 violation and a possible lawsuit [15-Feb-21 09:14 PM] shotfan#6872 So yeah [15-Feb-21 09:14 PM] shotfan#6872 I cannot disprove the performance claims [15-Feb-21 09:14 PM] shotfan#6872 We are here because he wants to *sell* the thing [15-Feb-21 09:14 PM] Frax314#7488 And him being a total ass [15-Feb-21 09:14 PM] Raov#2531 true [15-Feb-21 09:14 PM] Frax314#7488 ACTUALLY [15-Feb-21 09:14 PM] Raov#2531 ? [15-Feb-21 09:14 PM] Raov#2531 gimme all you got fam im all ears [15-Feb-21 09:14 PM] Frax314#7488 If Li$ter did not specificy it's paid... [15-Feb-21 09:15 PM] Frax314#7488 Write right after it is. [15-Feb-21 09:15 PM] Frax314#7488 With the prices. [15-Feb-21 09:15 PM] Frax314#7488 So that everyone looking will know. [15-Feb-21 09:15 PM] Raov#2531 *gets fucking banned* [15-Feb-21 09:15 PM] shotfan#6872 Hmmmmmmmmmm [15-Feb-21 09:15 PM] Frax314#7488 It's just honesty. [15-Feb-21 09:15 PM] shotfan#6872 Zero, are you listening? [15-Feb-21 09:15 PM] shotfan#6872 Is that viable? [15-Feb-21 09:16 PM] Frax314#7488 He is hiding *important* info, that's dishonest and it wouldn't be wrong to act. Zero seems to be offline, eh... [15-Feb-21 09:16 PM] Raov#2531 zeros offline [15-Feb-21 09:16 PM] shotfan#6872 No he is not [15-Feb-21 09:16 PM] Raov#2531 you sure? [15-Feb-21 09:16 PM] shotfan#6872 He is talking with Lister there as we speak [15-Feb-21 09:16 PM] Raov#2531 ah [15-Feb-21 09:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Huh [15-Feb-21 09:17 PM] Raov#2531 i dont have him as friends maybe thats why [15-Feb-21 09:17 PM] shotfan#6872 And no, Lister has not mentioned any price or lack of it still [15-Feb-21 09:18 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 what have I missed [15-Feb-21 09:18 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 sorry I have group chats muted because pings and stuff [15-Feb-21 09:18 PM] Frax314#7488 Discussion on Li$ter's appearance in the Litdoom server [15-Feb-21 09:18 PM] shotfan#6872 ``3 years for this map and 3 + for port`` [15-Feb-21 09:19 PM] Raov#2531 3+ for port [15-Feb-21 09:19 PM] shotfan#6872 That is what Lister claimed there. [15-Feb-21 09:19 PM] shotfan#6872 Zero, say [15-Feb-21 09:19 PM] Raov#2531 can i say the n- oh wait zero is here he gave me the pass [15-Feb-21 09:19 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Yeah I'm just tailing him. [15-Feb-21 09:19 PM] Raov#2531 nigga more like 3 years of stealing code [15-Feb-21 09:19 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 lmao [15-Feb-21 09:19 PM] shotfan#6872 If Lister claims that his sourceport is going to be free - is using the screenshots with prices viable on Wolf's server? [15-Feb-21 09:20 PM] shotfan#6872 I am wondering about Wolf's reaction. [15-Feb-21 09:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Choose quickly since the more people who see it, the worse... [15-Feb-21 09:20 PM] shotfan#6872 No opportunity to attack for now though. [15-Feb-21 09:20 PM] Raov#2531 the more people see it, the more flamy lister will react to you leaking prices [15-Feb-21 09:20 PM] Frax314#7488 It must be done preventively [15-Feb-21 09:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Preemptively? [15-Feb-21 09:21 PM] shotfan#6872 We are not going to appear credible if he does not expose himself first. [15-Feb-21 09:21 PM] Frax314#7488 But you can't talk him to it. [15-Feb-21 09:22 PM] Frax314#7488 Nor can you expect a rando to go talking to him. [15-Feb-21 09:22 PM] Frax314#7488 Otherwise we get a Doom Remake 4 situation. [15-Feb-21 09:22 PM] Raov#2531 can i get some context on that? [15-Feb-21 09:23 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Man I smell so many lies [15-Feb-21 09:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Community didn't manage to tell randos Doom Remake 4 is a stolen bag o'sbit [15-Feb-21 09:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Another failure in the big book [15-Feb-21 09:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Doom Remake 4 had commercial assets in it. [15-Feb-21 09:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Not only that. [15-Feb-21 09:23 PM] shotfan#6872 The reverse of what Lister is attempting. [15-Feb-21 09:24 PM] Frax314#7488 The mod in general sucked + stole stuff from modders. [15-Feb-21 09:33 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister just confirmed himself to be Russian in this conversation. [15-Feb-21 09:34 PM] Raov#2531 his entire server is in russian how much more proof do you need [15-Feb-21 09:34 PM] Frax314#7488 So? :/ [15-Feb-21 09:34 PM] Raov#2531 you mean he couldve used google translate or some shit? [15-Feb-21 09:34 PM] Raov#2531 nah russian is spot on [15-Feb-21 09:34 PM] Frax314#7488 Kekw [15-Feb-21 09:34 PM] Raov#2531 with every nook and cranny there is that a non-native wont notice [15-Feb-21 09:45 PM] shotfan#6872 ``Thing is-it is not piracy at all [19:33] Kek [19:34] Cause we are not using doom's sources [19:34] We are making thing which is emulator almost [19:35] So... No sources-no piracy`` [15-Feb-21 09:45 PM] shotfan#6872 How about this? [15-Feb-21 09:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Give him the screenshot where he says he's taking the code from Quake. [15-Feb-21 09:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Let me fetch it. [15-Feb-21 09:47 PM] Frax314#7488 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/810945509383995412/20210215_194740.jpg [15-Feb-21 09:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Fuck he does not say it outright [15-Feb-21 09:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Be careful. [15-Feb-21 09:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, it violates GPL-2. remember [15-Feb-21 09:48 PM] Frax314#7488 It is not a question of piracy [15-Feb-21 09:48 PM] Frax314#7488 But open source infrightment [15-Feb-21 09:49 PM] shotfan#6872 Hmmmmm [15-Feb-21 09:49 PM] shotfan#6872 Damn it [15-Feb-21 09:50 PM] shotfan#6872 No, he can just say that he was inspired by it or something... [15-Feb-21 09:50 PM] shotfan#6872 Too vague to use as a strong argument in public... [15-Feb-21 09:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Do the GPL-2 argument. [15-Feb-21 09:51 PM] Frax314#7488 That won't fail [15-Feb-21 09:51 PM] Frax314#7488 He could not defend from it aganist me [15-Feb-21 09:51 PM] Frax314#7488 He won't be able to aganist you [15-Feb-21 09:55 PM] shotfan#6872 Is it that he cannot sell anything that is supposed to run commercial Doom assests? [15-Feb-21 09:57 PM] Frax314#7488 No [15-Feb-21 09:57 PM] Frax314#7488 He cannot sell forks [15-Feb-21 09:57 PM] Frax314#7488 And regardless of what he says, that shit IS a fork. [15-Feb-21 09:57 PM] Frax314#7488 You can't do otherwise, and if he wants to prove it, he must release the source. [15-Feb-21 09:58 PM] Raov#2531 damn you got him good [15-Feb-21 10:00 PM] shotfan#6872 So he DOES use Doom source code? [15-Feb-21 10:04 PM] Frax314#7488 Likely [15-Feb-21 10:04 PM] Frax314#7488 It is almost certain [15-Feb-21 10:04 PM] Frax314#7488 And if he does not... he MUST show the evidence. [15-Feb-21 10:04 PM] Frax314#7488 Otherwise it's a literal scam. [15-Feb-21 10:05 PM] shotfan#6872 Well, we cannot be sure until the release... [15-Feb-21 10:06 PM] shotfan#6872 He will say that I invent shit out of the blue now. [15-Feb-21 10:06 PM] Frax314#7488 No, because even if he releases, there is nothing to show wheter it is a fork or not. [15-Feb-21 10:06 PM] shotfan#6872 There is no proof yet to verify who is right. [15-Feb-21 10:06 PM] Frax314#7488 Source must be provided to truly confirm/deconfirm. [15-Feb-21 10:06 PM] Frax314#7488 And... he could do it right now. But he won't, clearly... [15-Feb-21 10:07 PM] shotfan#6872 I mean, only at the release he is obliged to publish the source code. [15-Feb-21 10:07 PM] shotfan#6872 Now, he can hide as much as he can. [15-Feb-21 10:07 PM] Frax314#7488 He is obliged to if he wants to prove it's not a fork. [15-Feb-21 10:08 PM] Frax314#7488 If he cannot prove it is not, we should assume it is, which means it goes straight aganist the GPL-2 license. [15-Feb-21 10:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Damned if he does damned if he doesn't [15-Feb-21 10:11 PM] Frax314#7488 You gonna do anything? [15-Feb-21 10:19 PM] shotfan#6872 Well [15-Feb-21 10:19 PM] shotfan#6872 I can call him out and demand that he releases the source code for his port... [15-Feb-21 10:20 PM] shotfan#6872 But I am afraid that it will not do nearly enough, as he says his usual spiel and everyone else looks at me like I am crying wolf. [15-Feb-21 10:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Don't ask him to release the source [15-Feb-21 10:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Just tell him it's infrighting the GPL-2 [15-Feb-21 10:23 PM] Frax314#7488 If he says it's not a fork, ask him to prove it [15-Feb-21 10:28 PM] shotfan#6872 ``Cause we are not using doom's sources Oh really? Not a fork of Doom source code at all?`` [15-Feb-21 10:32 PM] Frax314#7488 Tell him to prove it, again [15-Feb-21 10:32 PM] Frax314#7488 If he can't, it's a clear scam [15-Feb-21 10:36 PM] Frax314#7488 In particular, how can he not use the ZDoom sources and still have ZDoom mod support? [15-Feb-21 10:40 PM] shotfan#6872 ``Rofl-,ulticore support+ another style or syn and render-lower your CPU usage for ~90% already(edited) NEW [20:39] Which means-most maps even NUTS will have no lag [20:39] And besides-to set multicore-already means to rewrite all engine`` [15-Feb-21 10:44 PM] Frax314#7488 That still constitutes a fork and does not prove in any way it not being one. [15-Feb-21 10:44 PM] Frax314#7488 (G)ZDoom also rewrote most of the engine. [15-Feb-21 10:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Since the entire game doesn't run on the same code anymore but in ZScript. [15-Feb-21 10:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Yet it's a fork, and so is his port [15-Feb-21 10:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Go and wreck his shit [15-Feb-21 10:45 PM] Frax314#7488 No feature can make it not a fork [15-Feb-21 10:49 PM] Raov#2531 Can I see the wreckage [15-Feb-21 10:49 PM] shotfan#6872 He is not responding [15-Feb-21 10:50 PM] Frax314#7488 Probably consulting himself/around [15-Feb-21 10:50 PM] Frax314#7488 You did tell him right? [15-Feb-21 10:51 PM] shotfan#6872 He still claims that the sourceport is totally new. [15-Feb-21 10:51 PM] Raov#2531 Bullshit unless proven [15-Feb-21 10:52 PM] shotfan#6872 And the proof is the source code. [15-Feb-21 10:52 PM] Raov#2531 He can't escape this situation [15-Feb-21 10:52 PM] Raov#2531 Technically [15-Feb-21 10:52 PM] Frax314#7488 So yeah just tell him to prove it ad nausem [15-Feb-21 10:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Or he's bullshittin [15-Feb-21 10:52 PM] Raov#2531 Well he can but people are gonna be sus of him [15-Feb-21 10:52 PM] shotfan#6872 Me, right. [15-Feb-21 10:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah [15-Feb-21 10:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Ad nauseam will work with him because he just says the same things over and over himself [15-Feb-21 10:53 PM] shotfan#6872 So I DO need to tell him to show his source code. [15-Feb-21 10:53 PM] Frax314#7488 He cannot adapt [15-Feb-21 10:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Not necessarily. [15-Feb-21 10:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Proof of any kind. [15-Feb-21 10:54 PM] Frax314#7488 And the only proof possible is, implicitly, the source code. [15-Feb-21 10:54 PM] Frax314#7488 Do not mention it directly is what I mean [15-Feb-21 10:56 PM] shotfan#6872 ``No optimization or new feature is a proof of a 100% new engine.`` [15-Feb-21 10:57 PM] shotfan#6872 And that he is dodging. [15-Feb-21 11:01 PM] Frax314#7488 Is it just me or ````s don't work anymore [15-Feb-21 11:02 PM] Raov#2531 It's 3 of those characters [15-Feb-21 11:03 PM] Raov#2531 Or, to be precise, 1 for a code line 3 for a codeblock [15-Feb-21 11:03 PM] Raov#2531 ``` `this will look like` ``` `this` [15-Feb-21 11:03 PM] Frax314#7488 `Like so?` [15-Feb-21 11:04 PM] Raov#2531 Can't see the difference on a phone [15-Feb-21 11:04 PM] Frax314#7488 ``Like so used to work too though.`` [15-Feb-21 11:04 PM] Raov#2531 Both are code lines [15-Feb-21 11:04 PM] Raov#2531 Hm [15-Feb-21 11:04 PM] Raov#2531 Weird [15-Feb-21 11:04 PM] Frax314#7488 ```This still seems to work though.``` [15-Feb-21 11:04 PM] Raov#2531 Yeah one is a line [15-Feb-21 11:04 PM] Raov#2531 3 is a block [15-Feb-21 11:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Any updates shotfan? [15-Feb-21 11:12 PM] shotfan#6872 HA [15-Feb-21 11:12 PM] shotfan#6872 ``And? I am not going to give anyone suorce code,cause i already know how it is working in this shitty community`` [15-Feb-21 11:13 PM] Raov#2531 Yep he's sus [15-Feb-21 11:13 PM] shotfan#6872 What a bunch of imbeciles [15-Feb-21 11:13 PM] shotfan#6872 They are lining the crosshairs for their own heads [15-Feb-21 11:13 PM] Raov#2531 https://open.spotify.com/track/5SrG516HWKZtSqyNk4Gw7l make him listen to this for 2 hours when you're done {Embed} https://open.spotify.com/track/5SrG516HWKZtSqyNk4Gw7l Among Us in Real Life Rebecca Zamolo · Song · 2020 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/5wiudG5tzqrMuYPQ5lMWW45mRbw7i_13IqrZ1fw82wk/https/i.scdn.co/image/ab67616d0000b273575fbe581f393a58747ebbbe [15-Feb-21 11:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Wait [15-Feb-21 11:17 PM] Frax314#7488 Did you specify source code or not? [15-Feb-21 11:17 PM] Frax314#7488 Tell him you never said that anyway [15-Feb-21 11:17 PM] Frax314#7488 And that if he has no other way, then that's pretty suspicious and scam-like [15-Feb-21 11:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Even if all features ARE there, who's to say he is allowed to sell it in the first place? [15-Feb-21 11:22 PM] shotfan#6872 NOW HERE [15-Feb-21 11:22 PM] Raov#2531 Huh [15-Feb-21 11:22 PM] shotfan#6872 I getting riled up again [15-Feb-21 11:22 PM] Frax314#7488 Wdym [15-Feb-21 11:22 PM] shotfan#6872 I got into argument again [15-Feb-21 11:23 PM] shotfan#6872 I told him that he must deliver proof or he breaks the license [15-Feb-21 11:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Ah fuck what do I smell here... [15-Feb-21 11:23 PM] shotfan#6872 He insists on the defense that his sourceport is going to be so good nobody will care. [15-Feb-21 11:24 PM] Raov#2531 We can easily sue him too [15-Feb-21 11:24 PM] shotfan#6872 So I told him it WILL be taken down. [15-Feb-21 11:24 PM] Frax314#7488 why [15-Feb-21 11:24 PM] shotfan#6872 Not sure what else I can say without going in circles. [15-Feb-21 11:24 PM] Raov#2531 *which is actually part of the reason I was gathering all that data in the first place* [15-Feb-21 11:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Why'd you threaten him like that [15-Feb-21 11:25 PM] Frax314#7488 Fucker needs to be anxious, not say "ha" if no one ends up taking it down [15-Feb-21 11:25 PM] Raov#2531 Well I will make him anxious [15-Feb-21 11:25 PM] Raov#2531 I fucking will [15-Feb-21 11:25 PM] Frax314#7488 Wait there wait [15-Feb-21 11:26 PM] Raov#2531 Ye [15-Feb-21 11:26 PM] shotfan#6872 Stop Raov [15-Feb-21 11:26 PM] shotfan#6872 I am still engaging him in a lawful combat [15-Feb-21 11:26 PM] Frax314#7488 If he says his port will be so good no one will care, appeal to the fact it just means he is using sheep for his gain instead of being an actually good developer [15-Feb-21 11:26 PM] Raov#2531 Yeah I'm waiting until yall reach a point of circling around [15-Feb-21 11:26 PM] shotfan#6872 He now says that the community is too shitty to have his source code. [15-Feb-21 11:27 PM] shotfan#6872 I said that he insults his consumers and nobody cares about what he wants. [15-Feb-21 11:27 PM] Frax314#7488 WHY [15-Feb-21 11:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Consult me bruh [15-Feb-21 11:27 PM] Raov#2531 Imma head out for the night, got school tomorrow and the more I stay up the worse the morning is gonna be [15-Feb-21 11:27 PM] Frax314#7488 That wasn't too sharp, to say nobody cares about what he wants [15-Feb-21 11:27 PM] Raov#2531 Gn gang [15-Feb-21 11:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Gn Raov [15-Feb-21 11:29 PM] shotfan#6872 I replied that to him claiming that the community is too full of sellouts and rats. [15-Feb-21 11:29 PM] shotfan#6872 He is trying to make a victim out of himself now. [15-Feb-21 11:29 PM] Frax314#7488 Quote to me his replies, let me handle it a little [15-Feb-21 11:31 PM] shotfan#6872 Verbatim: ``When it will come out-everyone will decide it for himself [21:24] If this shitty community will be cleaned from rumors/sellout rats and freaks like this- i will give any proof as you want`` [15-Feb-21 11:31 PM] shotfan#6872 That is the fallacy of impossible or undefinable conditions. [15-Feb-21 11:31 PM] shotfan#6872 And also dodging the original issue of not proving his veracity. [15-Feb-21 11:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Tell him that, yes. [15-Feb-21 11:32 PM] Frax314#7488 Exactly as you said right now, well put [15-Feb-21 11:32 PM] shotfan#6872 Too bad chat moved on. [15-Feb-21 11:32 PM] Frax314#7488 If he eventually brings up his various bans: [15-Feb-21 11:32 PM] Frax314#7488 (pinned) `Scamming random people with a sourceport that shouldn't be paid is not a way to retaliate to that.` [15-Feb-21 11:32 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright... [15-Feb-21 11:33 PM] shotfan#6872 The conversation is not about Lister's works anymore. [15-Feb-21 11:33 PM] Frax314#7488 Fine enough [15-Feb-21 11:34 PM] Frax314#7488 If he comes back you have your tools [15-Feb-21 11:34 PM] shotfan#6872 I could not say anything about price yet, you know. [15-Feb-21 11:34 PM] shotfan#6872 He has never mentioned that. [15-Feb-21 11:34 PM] shotfan#6872 He only insisted on keeping the source code to himself, that I called him out on. [15-Feb-21 11:34 PM] Frax314#7488 Pinned a message. [15-Feb-21 11:34 PM] Frax314#7488 Lemme just [15-Feb-21 11:34 PM] Frax314#7488 Save a solid argument [15-Feb-21 11:35 PM] shotfan#6872 Alright [15-Feb-21 11:35 PM] shotfan#6872 I am fucking tired of his bullshit [15-Feb-21 11:35 PM] shotfan#6872 Sorry if I did not handle it too well [15-Feb-21 11:35 PM] shotfan#6872 Sadly people in the channel did not seem interested in my arguments. [15-Feb-21 11:36 PM] shotfan#6872 They were only incredulous of performance claims, I was the only one that raised the legality issue. [15-Feb-21 11:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Rip [15-Feb-21 11:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh wait [15-Feb-21 11:36 PM] Frax314#7488 You mean they doubted his claims to high performance? [15-Feb-21 11:36 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah [15-Feb-21 11:37 PM] shotfan#6872 That they need to see it [15-Feb-21 11:37 PM] shotfan#6872 Like Bluuwolfy did. [15-Feb-21 11:37 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 told ya [15-Feb-21 11:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Neat [15-Feb-21 11:37 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 suggest nuts + perofromance breaking mod [15-Feb-21 11:37 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 if it can't handle it [15-Feb-21 11:37 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 then it's not worth the hype [15-Feb-21 11:37 PM] shotfan#6872 Hah [15-Feb-21 11:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Except not really because if he DOES have that optimization we are more fucked... [15-Feb-21 11:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Nuts were named already by Bluuwolfy in there [15-Feb-21 11:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Besides, people are now talking about Spec's maps. [15-Feb-21 11:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Looks like the conversation about Listerwerkz is over... [15-Feb-21 11:39 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 btw I thought of something isn't his sourceport using something that is against the rules of GNU or something? [15-Feb-21 11:39 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 something that is against the rule breaking of free sharing code and stuff [15-Feb-21 11:39 PM] shotfan#6872 GPL-2. [15-Feb-21 11:40 PM] shotfan#6872 I mentioned that. [15-Feb-21 11:40 PM] Frax314#7488 GPL-2, another license [15-Feb-21 11:40 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 wrong name but correct none the less [15-Feb-21 11:40 PM] Frax314#7488 If it was GNU, I think he'd be even more fucked iirc [15-Feb-21 11:40 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 why not just mention to them what's happening [15-Feb-21 11:40 PM] shotfan#6872 However, there is one bright spot [15-Feb-21 11:40 PM] shotfan#6872 He DID mention the source code by himself. [15-Feb-21 11:41 PM] shotfan#6872 That means, he knew a priori what the GPL criteria are, but tried to deflect them in his usual way by saying "IT IS GOING TO BE SO GUD NOONE WILL CARE" [15-Feb-21 11:42 PM] Frax314#7488 That's because I did warn him. [15-Feb-21 11:42 PM] Frax314#7488 As you might remember [15-Feb-21 11:42 PM] shotfan#6872 I did not expect him to take the bait, but he said that by himself. [15-Feb-21 11:42 PM] Frax314#7488 But he flat out went cope mode [15-Feb-21 11:42 PM] shotfan#6872 So that is already fishy enough. [15-Feb-21 11:42 PM] shotfan#6872 Too bad the people in my server are not overly bothered by the license terms, it appears... [15-Feb-21 11:42 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 so this GPL-2 has a rule that states "no coder shall use this shit to sell it for profit" right? But what he is doing is the opposite of this rule [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] Frax314#7488 He can sell [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Not exactly [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] Frax314#7488 But he has to release the source [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 oh [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, what Frax said. [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 oh I see [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] Frax314#7488 Which makes it useless for something with no assets [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Sell all you want BUT release the source. [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 I mean, there's bound to be that 1 guy who will be interested in the code [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 discover things [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean [15-Feb-21 11:43 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 and things will go bad for Lister [15-Feb-21 11:44 PM] Frax314#7488 With a sourceport you can litterally just fork it and go "Listeronum BUT FREE!" zero effort [15-Feb-21 11:44 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 when Lister doesn't have installed Source textures [15-Feb-21 11:44 PM] shotfan#6872 HALF-LIFE 3 WEN [15-Feb-21 11:44 PM] shotfan#6872 I need a break [15-Feb-21 11:44 PM] Frax314#7488 Get rest shotchad [15-Feb-21 11:45 PM] Frax314#7488 This guy is mentally draining to talk to [15-Feb-21 11:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Even peacefully [15-Feb-21 11:45 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 I need sleep So I might sign off as well I might appear online but I'll be in bed watching some vids before sleeping [16-Feb-21 01:06 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 So... [16-Feb-21 01:06 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Do I leak shit now? [16-Feb-21 01:07 AM] shotfan#6872 Wait [16-Feb-21 01:08 AM] shotfan#6872 Does not seem that anyone else is here. [16-Feb-21 01:13 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 What [16-Feb-21 01:13 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Wdym *here* [16-Feb-21 01:13 AM] shotfan#6872 In BRAZIL [16-Feb-21 10:10 AM] Frax314#7488 Not yet [16-Feb-21 10:11 AM] Frax314#7488 It's honestly useless to expose this stuff except right before release [18-Feb-21 05:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 any news? [18-Feb-21 10:09 AM] Frax314#7488 Nope [18-Feb-21 11:04 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 F [20-Feb-21 04:22 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Still nothing? [20-Feb-21 10:21 AM] Frax314#7488 Nope The quieter the better tbf [22-Feb-21 03:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 gonna assume nothing's happened yet and move on [22-Feb-21 03:15 PM] Frax314#7488 Correct [24-Feb-21 12:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 man [24-Feb-21 12:02 PM] Fluffy#5319 Stuff happens when it happens [24-Feb-21 12:03 PM] Fluffy#5319 But yeah it's been awfully quiet as of late [24-Feb-21 12:03 PM] Raov#2531 *almost too quiet* [24-Feb-21 12:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 inb4 it turns out Lister hacked the Russian government's nuclear system and is planning to violently assassinate all his H4T0R5 [24-Feb-21 12:14 PM] Frax314#7488 Kek [25-Feb-21 02:34 AM] shotfan#6872 So Lothar made that call with Romero and received John's patronage for making Schism a standalone game. [25-Feb-21 02:36 AM] shotfan#6872 Well, if that were to happen, then Listerium could have one mod less to prop up its extortion scam... But who the hell knows when that mod-to-game conversion would be realized. [25-Feb-21 02:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 huh [25-Feb-21 02:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so odd [25-Feb-21 02:40 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Not only is Brutal Doom getting a standalone game in the form of Brutal Fate, *Schism* is getting a standalone game too [25-Feb-21 02:40 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I'd be hyped if not for the fact that it's 2021 and brutal mods need to die [25-Feb-21 02:40 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh that and Lothar's uh... *kinda racist* [25-Feb-21 02:40 AM] shotfan#6872 Mind though, Schism-game is just words for now. [25-Feb-21 02:40 AM] shotfan#6872 Unlike Brutal Fate. [25-Feb-21 02:41 AM] shotfan#6872 I am surprised to hear that BF is just BD remade, but why should I... [25-Feb-21 02:41 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I mean tbf BF is looking pretty good right now ~~although I'm not paying any monetary value for a Brutal Doom derivative so we're going with the Pirate Bay release~~ [25-Feb-21 02:41 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 ye [25-Feb-21 02:41 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 the paid version is if you want to support Mark [25-Feb-21 02:41 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 kudos on him for doing a torrent release as well [25-Feb-21 02:42 AM] shotfan#6872 The Brutal Doom Patreon was... questionable. [25-Feb-21 02:42 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I wouldn't want to support him with money, as I consider money to be the only support that I believe matters [25-Feb-21 02:42 AM] shotfan#6872 But still, moral high ground over what Lister is planning to do lol [25-Feb-21 02:42 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 kek [25-Feb-21 02:43 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 still wonder if what other Brutal fans say is true when they're talking about Mark; how he's changed over the years [25-Feb-21 02:43 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 I barely visit the BD server [25-Feb-21 02:43 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ...wouldn't hold my breath, since he's fine with being part of Lister's scam program [25-Feb-21 02:43 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 it got stale for some reason [25-Feb-21 02:43 AM] shotfan#6872 We need a BD server regular for the informed opinion. [25-Feb-21 02:43 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 what a "when the pk3 is brutal!" moment [25-Feb-21 02:43 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 but I still play BD (mostly with Dox778's addon) [25-Feb-21 02:44 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 same [25-Feb-21 02:44 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 that kid fixed BD [25-Feb-21 02:44 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 granted it involved coding spaghetti [25-Feb-21 02:44 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but at least it's a bit tidier [25-Feb-21 02:44 AM] shotfan#6872 I played BD first with the Sperglord Edition. [25-Feb-21 02:44 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 although recently it's been seeping into the game [25-Feb-21 02:44 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 the what? [25-Feb-21 02:44 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ~~can I get a link~~ [25-Feb-21 02:44 AM] shotfan#6872 Dude [25-Feb-21 02:44 AM] shotfan#6872 That was like 8 years ago [25-Feb-21 02:45 AM] shotfan#6872 Not sure if it still exists [25-Feb-21 02:45 AM] shotfan#6872 And I had had an hardware replacement in the interrim [25-Feb-21 02:46 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 found it https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/bd-sperglord-edition-v19 {Embed} https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/bd-sperglord-edition-v19 BD Sperglord Edition v19 addon - Brutal Doom mod for Doom It originally started as a sound replacement for an older Brutal Doom and since then has turned into a full fledged conversion. Comes with alot of addons, All weapon sounds changed, Alt-Fire attacks to the Chainsaw, BFG and Mancubus Cannon, comes with... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/6KwRy0co_TCe_c1tVnED-9YSS-Gax45y6N1yFg09ku4/https/media.moddb.com/images/downloads/1/73/72523/cvtd.png [25-Feb-21 02:46 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 last update was 2013 tho [25-Feb-21 02:46 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 modder probably abandoned [25-Feb-21 02:46 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 it [25-Feb-21 02:47 AM] shotfan#6872 Yeah it is old. [25-Feb-21 02:47 AM] shotfan#6872 The altfires attracted me. [25-Feb-21 02:47 AM] shotfan#6872 Fond memories... [25-Feb-21 10:22 AM] Frax314#7488 wat I don't see why he even had to ask [25-Feb-21 10:22 AM] Frax314#7488 There are 2 possibilities 1 - He is dumb as bricks 2 - He believes he can use Doom assets for the standalone version just because Romero said he could make a standalone version [25-Feb-21 10:23 AM] Frax314#7488 Possibility 2 includes 1, of course... [25-Feb-21 10:47 AM] shotfan#6872 3 - He is going to remake the game enitrely, including all the assets. [25-Feb-21 10:47 AM] shotfan#6872 Something I am not inclined to believe, since he never has done something not in Doom. [25-Feb-21 10:48 AM] shotfan#6872 I do not know what that Romero's patronage even entails. Lothar never told me what does he exactly want from Romero. [25-Feb-21 11:24 AM] Frax314#7488 Hmm [25-Feb-21 02:20 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 it's obvious to me he wishes to seize his hair [25-Feb-21 02:20 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 whoever controls Romero's hair is more powerful than Putin [25-Feb-21 05:04 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 pfft [25-Feb-21 05:04 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 whoever kills Romero wins Doom 2 [25-Feb-21 05:04 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 that's how you become all mighty [26-Feb-21 01:21 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Well I was about to say [26-Feb-21 01:21 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Whoever wins Doom 2 becomes more powerful than when Mansa Musa was alive [26-Feb-21 01:22 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Started a call that lasted 0 minutes. [26-Feb-21 01:22 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 bruh [26-Feb-21 01:23 AM] shotfan#6872 He was logging out of Matrix [26-Feb-21 01:23 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 God fucking dammit [26-Feb-21 01:23 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Who thought it was a smart idea to place the call button there [26-Feb-21 01:23 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But anyways [26-Feb-21 01:24 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 No other news? [26-Feb-21 01:45 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 A watched kettle never boils [26-Feb-21 03:11 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 "hmm Lister left Romero's Discord wonder what came up... better use the search engine to-" ***"OH GOD OH FUCK"*** {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814832124653338624/Screenshot_787.png [26-Feb-21 03:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I literally fucking slept on this [26-Feb-21 03:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 HE TOLD ROMERO'S DISCORD ABOUT LISTRONUM [26-Feb-21 03:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Can you help in any way? [26-Feb-21 03:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 not sure [26-Feb-21 03:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Or is it too late? [26-Feb-21 03:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 well [26-Feb-21 03:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Kinner's still in the Discord [26-Feb-21 03:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but Lister left [26-Feb-21 03:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 not sure why [26-Feb-21 03:13 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean, did the convo change? [26-Feb-21 03:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 that's the problem [26-Feb-21 03:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Or is it still last message? [26-Feb-21 03:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I slept on it [26-Feb-21 03:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 this was over a week ago [26-Feb-21 03:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 my dumbass wasn't checking up on his cronies [26-Feb-21 03:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Aight [26-Feb-21 03:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I *might* be able to ask him about it on Romero's Discord, of course leaving out the other """issues""" so people don't get too riled up about the subscriptionware [26-Feb-21 03:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 or Lister's bullshit [26-Feb-21 03:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 or anyone's bullshit [26-Feb-21 03:14 PM] Raov#2531 time to rile em up [26-Feb-21 03:15 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 no please [26-Feb-21 03:15 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 it's just February [26-Feb-21 03:15 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 as Frax said it would be too early [26-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh shit [26-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah indeed [26-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he even said listeronum by name [26-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 when someone was talking about sourceports and shit [26-Feb-21 03:17 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I pinged to him about it on the server, just in case we got damage control in the event that he spills too much beans [26-Feb-21 03:17 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 AKA tells people there's a DRM, whitelist filled with mods by racist people, blacklist filled with mods by not-racist people, etc [26-Feb-21 03:17 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 pretty much he can't make too much of a fuss without the rest of the server knowing [26-Feb-21 03:18 PM] Frax314#7488 Who? [26-Feb-21 03:19 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Kinnerkokhn [26-Feb-21 03:20 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 since it's public he can't flaunt the scummier side of the sourceport [26-Feb-21 03:20 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he replied to me saying, and I quote > Zandronum fork with zscript and multicore support [26-Feb-21 03:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Tell him forks can't be sold because of GPL-2. As if you knew that already for a long time, yknow? [26-Feb-21 03:22 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 shhhh [26-Feb-21 03:22 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I'm trying to set it up [26-Feb-21 03:22 PM] Frax314#7488 It is not necessarily suspect. [26-Feb-21 03:22 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I can't just sprout alleged fake news [26-Feb-21 03:22 PM] Frax314#7488 Besides, shotfan quoted that part [26-Feb-21 03:22 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 If I said it he'll basically decry it as slander [26-Feb-21 03:22 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 well shit [26-Feb-21 03:22 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hold on [26-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Frax314#7488 `For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights.` [26-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Frax314#7488 https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html#SEC3 [26-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814834949860753419/Screenshot_788.png [26-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Copy those two things [26-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ahaha [26-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 fuck [26-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he said it [26-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he said the thing [26-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 lemme tell him about GPL [26-Feb-21 03:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Remember to quote that [26-Feb-21 03:27 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hmm [26-Feb-21 03:27 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I *could*, but he might get suspicious [26-Feb-21 03:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Just say you immediately became suspicious because no one else sold ports [26-Feb-21 03:27 PM] Frax314#7488 So you checked the licenses a bit [26-Feb-21 03:27 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 alright [26-Feb-21 03:27 PM] Frax314#7488 He doesn't know you anyway [26-Feb-21 03:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh fuck me in the ass he just confirmed that Pa1n and Mark are interested in the sourceport [26-Feb-21 03:29 PM] Frax314#7488 Show him [26-Feb-21 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Also take a screenshot of the moment where he says that (Mark and Pa1n being interested) [26-Feb-21 03:31 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 uh we might be in a bit of a pickle regarding the GPL argument {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814837074862538762/Screenshot_789.png [26-Feb-21 03:32 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 this random fellow seems to have said that it isn't necessarily illegal to distribute a sourceport as paid [26-Feb-21 03:32 PM] Frax314#7488 He CAN sell it [26-Feb-21 03:32 PM] Frax314#7488 But he must release the source [26-Feb-21 03:32 PM] Frax314#7488 Which he won't. [26-Feb-21 03:32 PM] Frax314#7488 End of story. [26-Feb-21 03:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I have questioned him about the price [26-Feb-21 03:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Let's see if he'll respond [26-Feb-21 03:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oop he answered [26-Feb-21 03:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 15 whole dollars [26-Feb-21 03:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I have expressed my unpleasant reaction to that [26-Feb-21 03:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 this guy seems to have a massive hate boner for poor MiFu {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814838092820250624/Screenshot_791.png [26-Feb-21 03:36 PM] Frax314#7488 What the fuck do two bad people have to do with a sourceport being paid? An excuse and nothing more [26-Feb-21 03:38 PM] Frax314#7488 (Bad from his POV clearly) [26-Feb-21 03:38 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 kek [26-Feb-21 03:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 however... this provides us a massive opportunity since Romero's Discord is a public Discord, the idea of a paid sourceport is now up in the air [26-Feb-21 03:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 AKA everyone can see it [26-Feb-21 03:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *does that mean I can finally leak it into the QCDE Discord!?* [26-Feb-21 03:40 PM] Frax314#7488 It's good. Worms will follow Li$ter, free minds will be free [26-Feb-21 03:40 PM] Frax314#7488 Yes, but only use knowledge you've learned and exhibited in Romero's Discord. [26-Feb-21 03:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***FINALLY*** [26-Feb-21 03:40 PM] Frax314#7488 #doom time, I guess. [26-Feb-21 03:40 PM] Frax314#7488 Also don't do my name ever, heh! [26-Feb-21 03:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 https://tenor.com/view/grandma-84years-waiting-titanic-rose-dewitt-bukater-gif-15554713 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/grandma-84years-waiting-titanic-rose-dewitt-bukater-gif-15554713 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/M8Ra_kYSovMmrzlFwXKJ5ju0kEMQCrjWgcnZoO0611I/https/media.tenor.co/images/bd7c0222f70c879b54311b1f0d3aa255/tenor.png [26-Feb-21 03:41 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Oh I'm pretty sure they're fine with you debunking a massive conspiracy [26-Feb-21 03:41 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 one last thing before I leave {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814839632180150302/Screenshot_792.png [26-Feb-21 03:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 When I told him "he's not releasing the source code to everyone" [26-Feb-21 03:42 PM] Frax314#7488 Nah. I don't actually want a public part in this dumpster fire anymore. [26-Feb-21 03:42 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, correct him because he litterally just said he forked Zandro [26-Feb-21 03:45 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 84 fucking years for disappointment {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814840608354336838/Screenshot_793.png [26-Feb-21 03:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 also Bryina confirmed it, what he's doing is big nono [26-Feb-21 03:48 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 real quick tho can we get this pinned too [26-Feb-21 03:48 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 "there's this dude, Lister, he wants to make an epicks lol xd sourceport that will absolutely dunk on the virgin fake gamer Graf and his GZDoom sourceport" [26-Feb-21 03:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Yes, I told you Bryina knew already. [26-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but what about Bacco~~hax~~bax [26-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 and Mifu definitely does [26-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Frax314#7488 I told him. [26-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Bacco I mean [26-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Frax314#7488 When I quit. He is not that involved outside of QCDE, soo [26-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he (she?)'s pretty much the laughing stock of the whole situation, as we've seen with Kinner's bitchiness towards his (her?) existence [26-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***A NEW CHALLENGER HAS ENTERED THE ARENA*** {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814842639391785020/Screenshot_795.png [26-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 lemme go watch this unfold [26-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I can't provide live feedback though [26-Feb-21 03:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Based Bryina onto the attack [26-Feb-21 03:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Kinner hasn't responded [26-Feb-21 03:58 PM] Frax314#7488 Clearly he is just posting the screenshots on Li$ter's circlejerk Discord for invisible and uncountable internet points [26-Feb-21 03:59 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hey to anyone who's on LSDiscord for spying reasons can we get a citation [26-Feb-21 03:59 PM] Frax314#7488 @Raov was supposed to be there [26-Feb-21 04:00 PM] Frax314#7488 But he isn't rn are you Raov? [26-Feb-21 04:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Man I'm so goddamn professional {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814844747038064670/Screenshot_796.png [26-Feb-21 04:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I should get a cookie for having this much brain juice [26-Feb-21 04:03 PM] Frax314#7488 Kinnerokhn has 0 speech points [26-Feb-21 04:03 PM] Frax314#7488 And a mage casted Long Silence on him [26-Feb-21 04:04 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he's defiling me on the LSD Discord as we speak Bitch at least my people didn't have to lose to fucks with weird mustaches [26-Feb-21 04:07 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***"AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"*** {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814846066746327070/Screenshot_797.png [26-Feb-21 04:07 PM] Fluffy#5319 Imagine lying about something being a lie [26-Feb-21 04:08 PM] Fluffy#5319 Lieception [26-Feb-21 04:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Remember that you should not care [26-Feb-21 04:08 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 true or falsifications by madmen {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814846395541880862/Screenshot_798.png [26-Feb-21 04:08 PM] Frax314#7488 "Shizo" [26-Feb-21 04:09 PM] Fluffy#5319 I lost it at hey baby [26-Feb-21 04:09 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 So um [26-Feb-21 04:09 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Uh [26-Feb-21 04:09 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 He's poo [26-Feb-21 04:09 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I really wanna say "ooh is this where we send Discord messages? I can do that too!" Then show him pics of Lister confirming the subscription BS but I think that's a point where mods step in [26-Feb-21 04:09 PM] Frax314#7488 Regardless of people badmouthing Li$ter, it does not warrant a fucking 15$ pricetag and it's an excuse for a scam. [26-Feb-21 04:09 PM] Frax314#7488 That should be your point. [26-Feb-21 04:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Random people saying you doxxed someone is not an excuse to scam the entire Doom community. [26-Feb-21 04:11 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 kekz {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814847227251654656/Screenshot_799.png [26-Feb-21 04:12 PM] Fluffy#5319 So how many knows about this listeronum stuff now? [26-Feb-21 04:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oop oop [26-Feb-21 04:12 PM] Fluffy#5319 Everyone? [26-Feb-21 04:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I started something [26-Feb-21 04:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 #doom's popping off [26-Feb-21 04:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Anyone who saw that channel in this moment I guess [26-Feb-21 04:13 PM] Fluffy#5319 Well F [26-Feb-21 04:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Simps will be simps [26-Feb-21 04:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Chads will be chads [26-Feb-21 04:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I'm waiting for confirmation if I can send the incriminating messages [26-Feb-21 04:18 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 checkmate bitch {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/814848758478798879/Screenshot_801.png [26-Feb-21 04:18 PM] Fluffy#5319 What server is that btw? [26-Feb-21 04:19 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Romero's Discord [26-Feb-21 04:19 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 we all ganging up on hi mit's funny [26-Feb-21 04:20 PM] Fluffy#5319 I see, and yeah this dude has been lying at least 5 times now [26-Feb-21 04:20 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I have checkmated him [26-Feb-21 04:21 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Waiting from his response about me wanting to play a Dusted pandemonic mod instead of LSD on listeronum [26-Feb-21 04:21 PM] Fluffy#5319 Guess he got Ace Attorney'ed [26-Feb-21 04:22 PM] Fluffy#5319 Complexity is also getting an interesting update soon [26-Feb-21 04:23 PM] Fluffy#5319 And I guess that is also on their totally unfair shitlist [26-Feb-21 04:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 should I tell them about the DRM? [26-Feb-21 04:24 PM] Fluffy#5319 Who is Kinnerokhn, part fo LSD? [26-Feb-21 04:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 some Lister crony [26-Feb-21 04:24 PM] Fluffy#5319 So shouldn't he already know then? [26-Feb-21 04:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 nah nah [26-Feb-21 04:25 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I meant tell the whole server bout it [26-Feb-21 04:25 PM] Fluffy#5319 Also wasn't this stuff supposed to be leaked later? [26-Feb-21 04:25 PM] Fluffy#5319 Or is that too late? [26-Feb-21 04:26 PM] Fluffy#5319 But I mean it's up to you [26-Feb-21 04:26 PM] Fluffy#5319 Use it as a counter for his dumbass lies [26-Feb-21 04:27 PM] Fluffy#5319 Also prepare the fact that this info is gonna be known everywhere soon cos people will definitely share that stuff [26-Feb-21 04:27 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 whaddya think [26-Feb-21 04:28 PM] Frax314#7488 WHY [26-Feb-21 04:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Also... mayyyyybe. Only if he calls you out as a Mifu crony or shit [26-Feb-21 04:28 PM] Frax314#7488 BUT WHY DID YOU BRING UP CF [26-Feb-21 04:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh wait. [26-Feb-21 04:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I wanted to see if he'd spill the DRM [26-Feb-21 04:28 PM] Frax314#7488 He'll get himself banned! [26-Feb-21 04:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he didn't [26-Feb-21 04:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 unfortunately [26-Feb-21 04:28 PM] Frax314#7488 GET HIM BANNED VIA CF [26-Feb-21 04:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 what how [26-Feb-21 04:29 PM] Frax314#7488 Make him breakdown about CF [26-Feb-21 04:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I already said "what if I wanna play DP mod instead of Botral Doubural" [26-Feb-21 04:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he remained dodgy about the question [26-Feb-21 04:29 PM] Frax314#7488 I see [26-Feb-21 04:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Well if he says you are not genuine and a crony, get my screenshots and say an informer helped you out so to speak... [26-Feb-21 04:30 PM] Frax314#7488 People will hate the subscriptionware, oh yeah. [26-Feb-21 04:31 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 chat went dormant [26-Feb-21 04:32 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but I should be prepared to tell every single Russian who tries to flash me gore that I've given them incriminating evidence to the KGB [26-Feb-21 04:32 PM] Frax314#7488 Good [26-Feb-21 04:32 PM] Frax314#7488 People will see [26-Feb-21 04:32 PM] Frax314#7488 And with ease [26-Feb-21 04:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Can I at least tell my personal friend group who has no connections to Complex Doom at all [26-Feb-21 04:38 PM] Frax314#7488 But how into Doom are they [26-Feb-21 04:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 They know about Doom pretty well, but not enough Doom modding [26-Feb-21 04:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 they probably barely know Complex Doom is a thing [26-Feb-21 04:39 PM] Frax314#7488 Fine then [26-Feb-21 04:39 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yay [26-Feb-21 04:39 PM] Frax314#7488 Can I have the names though? Just absolutely in the case [26-Feb-21 04:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Vampire Princess, Dinua, Nick, Mayhem, aconfusedhuman, Gougaru, Sutercut, ARYZON, Gingleheimer, some dude who used to go by the Terry meme, Shamus, Jayboe1123, Furryguy/Guy, Ultranautix, DroomkDog, Amine, IlMentore, Sgt. Swiss, and Jim [26-Feb-21 04:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yeah a lot of people [26-Feb-21 04:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but if I find out you killed them then I will send you wet socks through telepathy [26-Feb-21 04:43 PM] Frax314#7488 K [27-Feb-21 12:22 AM] shotfan#6872 So he is now harassing PB developer, huh? [27-Feb-21 12:23 AM] shotfan#6872 I am amazed at that. Is Lister really thinking he is some mafia boss? [27-Feb-21 12:23 AM] Frax314#7488 ? [27-Feb-21 12:23 AM] shotfan#6872 He is just making more people hostile towards himself. [27-Feb-21 12:23 AM] Frax314#7488 I don't get what you mean. He said Pa1n was *interested* in it? [27-Feb-21 12:23 AM] Frax314#7488 OH [27-Feb-21 12:23 AM] Frax314#7488 You mean to Caco345 [27-Feb-21 12:23 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 He's Diavolo, leader of Passione We're the betrayers, a.k.a We have a dream [27-Feb-21 12:23 AM] shotfan#6872 His DM to Cacodemon345. [27-Feb-21 12:24 AM] Frax314#7488 Well according to him, he could kick 345 out any time he wants as long as Pa1n agrees to his conditions -- but we all know that won't happen so easily. [27-Feb-21 12:24 AM] shotfan#6872 Same witch hunt shit he pulled on Schism server. [27-Feb-21 12:24 AM] shotfan#6872 Not this shit again. [27-Feb-21 12:24 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 I have a hard time believing Sarge and Pain like the idea [27-Feb-21 12:24 AM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, about that [27-Feb-21 12:24 AM] Frax314#7488 Not that much about Sarge tbh. [27-Feb-21 12:25 AM] Frax314#7488 Pa1n is super private so idk. [27-Feb-21 12:25 AM] shotfan#6872 I am not buying into that shit until I see the actual evidence. [27-Feb-21 12:25 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 same [27-Feb-21 12:25 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 but as for Lister [27-Feb-21 12:25 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 ye [27-Feb-21 12:25 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 he a cunt [27-Feb-21 12:25 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 he can't get wet [27-Feb-21 12:25 AM] Frax314#7488 I gtg, Shotfan see my DM to you, I'm going offline for a bit so can you do *that* for me? [27-Feb-21 12:25 AM] shotfan#6872 Posts from Sarge and Pa1n where they accept to be complicit. [27-Feb-21 12:25 AM] shotfan#6872 Right away. [27-Feb-21 12:26 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jjba-italy-ho-capito-diamond-is-unbreakable-gif-20095602 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jjba-italy-ho-capito-diamond-is-unbreakable-gif-20095602 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/-iDWlbYwUM1wl0_IDxDDxOHPVuYNRXLxKqFVXYJz1Bw/https/media.tenor.co/images/2dad30ea4645982d02cba4c13b6c13e0/tenor.png [27-Feb-21 12:26 AM] Raov#2531 Is that a jojo reference [27-Feb-21 12:26 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 this whole war against Lister is a Jojo reference [27-Feb-21 12:26 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 but no one has noticed it but me [27-Feb-21 12:28 AM] shotfan#6872 By the way [27-Feb-21 12:29 AM] shotfan#6872 I am wondering how they expect to use the argument of "Doom community is so bad we put a pricetag on the sourceport" and not get laughed out of the room. [27-Feb-21 12:33 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 because it's that bad [27-Feb-21 12:37 AM] shotfan#6872 Then get the fuck out. [27-Feb-21 12:37 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 oh [27-Feb-21 12:37 AM] shotfan#6872 Since when such dumb claim gives you extra clown points? [27-Feb-21 12:37 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 I mean [27-Feb-21 12:37 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 I was joking [27-Feb-21 12:38 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 didn't mean to be serious [27-Feb-21 12:38 AM] shotfan#6872 It was not towards you. [27-Feb-21 12:38 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 even I say that this whole pay for a sourceport shit is bad [27-Feb-21 12:38 AM] shotfan#6872 Do not get me wrong. [27-Feb-21 12:38 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 oh lmao [27-Feb-21 12:38 AM] shotfan#6872 I am not that dense lol [27-Feb-21 12:39 AM] shotfan#6872 I am just sick and tired of Lister's shit and his cocksuckers. [27-Feb-21 12:39 AM] shotfan#6872 But I am more appalled that there is such limited reaction to their stupid arguments. [27-Feb-21 12:39 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 stupidity knows no limits [27-Feb-21 12:40 AM] shotfan#6872 Or apathy. [27-Feb-21 05:43 PM] polyzium#0481 Man I barely get the chance to stay with you guys in touch [27-Feb-21 05:43 PM] Raov#2531 ayy [27-Feb-21 05:43 PM] Raov#2531 polys here [27-Feb-21 05:43 PM] Raov#2531 how ya been mate [27-Feb-21 07:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And then he dipped again 😔 [27-Feb-21 07:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Are you alive Poly? [28-Feb-21 12:04 PM] polyzium#0481 I am [28-Feb-21 12:05 PM] polyzium#0481 I just disabled notifs [28-Feb-21 12:05 PM] polyzium#0481 Cuz fuck the army and their laws [28-Feb-21 12:05 PM] polyzium#0481 They piss me off [28-Feb-21 12:05 PM] polyzium#0481 So if I don't respond you know why [28-Feb-21 12:06 PM] polyzium#0481 Today is Sunday so I'm basically free the whole day [28-Feb-21 12:06 PM] polyzium#0481 But unexpected things may happen [28-Feb-21 12:07 PM] polyzium#0481 @Raov well we've been redirected to another regiment and it's the most beautiful one I've ever seen [28-Feb-21 12:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Listeronum's existance is public in John Romero's Discord now. [28-Feb-21 12:08 PM] Frax314#7488 But so are the arguments aganist it thanks to Bulalo and Bryina. [28-Feb-21 12:08 PM] polyzium#0481 Against the port? [28-Feb-21 12:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah [28-Feb-21 12:09 PM] polyzium#0481 How is that a bad thing [28-Feb-21 12:09 PM] Frax314#7488 Because it was real close, if we didn't see and act people wouldn't have known it's illegal. [28-Feb-21 12:09 PM] polyzium#0481 Of course lol [28-Feb-21 12:10 PM] polyzium#0481 Lister is doing illegal things and people should do something with that [28-Feb-21 12:11 PM] polyzium#0481 But I didn't expect things to get THIS far [28-Feb-21 12:13 PM] Frax314#7488 (pinned) Also, I need a little help from every one of you to brainstorm write an informative article I will go and post on the ZDoom Forums early into March. We must make sure that they treat this seriously and not just file it off as a scam, because they should rather be prepared for the worst. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SV-oBouSZ-TLGWSmCtzQlE313xrOO0388sOvtvOKAnA/edit?usp=drivesdk {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SV-oBouSZ-TLGWSmCtzQlE313xrOO0388sOvtvOKAnA/edit?usp=drivesdk ZDF warning post First of all, I would like everyone to take in mind that you all must be prepared for the worst. If in the end all this is not as much of a threat as on paper, you will be able to breath a sigh of relief. If you file this off as nothing, but it is in fact such an overwhelming menace, all of your ... https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/zloLiTNOQZRbkyUzQ9IX3IEm_bhGOpye3Blt4tIilGo/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/G0ZD0qWskgO6jJkAYaWHKAeaUX21eURwZ6GT7oRSlMRUrDku_FV1fC_R3awHdrAGnq0h-ZroIQU0XA%3Dw1200-h630-p [28-Feb-21 12:15 PM] polyzium#0481 Google docs to the rescue [28-Feb-21 12:15 PM] Raov#2531 ^ [28-Feb-21 12:15 PM] Frax314#7488 (pinned) If anyone knows how/where to contact Doomkid outside of dropping the news bombshell on Doomworld ourselves, please tell me as well. I am 100% sure he will make a video about it. [28-Feb-21 12:15 PM] polyzium#0481 Let's do it in the evening ok? [28-Feb-21 12:16 PM] Raov#2531 We can start now if need be [28-Feb-21 12:16 PM] Raov#2531 I can't rn tho [28-Feb-21 12:16 PM] polyzium#0481 I'm gonna give the phone to a friend of mine so I'll contact you later [28-Feb-21 12:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright imma just create a doc, anyone who wants to contribute will be able to [28-Feb-21 12:16 PM] Raov#2531 Aight [28-Feb-21 12:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Bye polyz [28-Feb-21 12:16 PM] Raov#2531 Lock it to invite only tho [28-Feb-21 12:16 PM] Raov#2531 For now at least [28-Feb-21 12:28 PM] Frax314#7488 You need the link anyway [28-Feb-21 12:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Pinned a message. [28-Feb-21 12:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Pinned a message. [28-Feb-21 12:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so are we basically beginning to roll out the assault on the sourceport [28-Feb-21 12:42 PM] Raov#2531 seems like it [28-Feb-21 12:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ~~and if we are can I play Razormind from Payday 2~~ [28-Feb-21 12:43 PM] Frax314#7488 I chose to PM Doomkid via Doomworld's messaging. [28-Feb-21 12:43 PM] Frax314#7488 With a new account. [28-Feb-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 did you get banned there [28-Feb-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 lmao [28-Feb-21 12:43 PM] Frax314#7488 JSJDJJDDH ***not yet*** [28-Feb-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 LMao [28-Feb-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but is this the part where we take action against it [28-Feb-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ~~and if it is can I play Razormind~~ [28-Feb-21 12:43 PM] Frax314#7488 Pretty much, yeah. [28-Feb-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***YAY*** [28-Feb-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f7xAxKtjXc&t=5s {Embed} DisᴛOrTe͜͡d̆̈ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f7xAxKtjXc&start=5s [POLICE ASSAULT IN PROGRESS] https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/PYdPWuHqy9VzmMeOXvKyOuQ6TjnKS-98lqW-HMy_Nt4/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/9f7xAxKtjXc/sddefault.jpg [28-Feb-21 12:44 PM] Frax314#7488 What we must do is get Doomworld 100% aganist Li$ter. [28-Feb-21 12:44 PM] Frax314#7488 And warn ZDF before it's too late. [28-Feb-21 12:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 can I tell everyone I can [28-Feb-21 12:44 PM] Frax314#7488 So we can prevent the Brutal Doom situation all over again. [28-Feb-21 12:44 PM] Frax314#7488 No [28-Feb-21 12:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 aww [28-Feb-21 12:45 PM] Raov#2531 aw fuck yeah [28-Feb-21 12:45 PM] Raov#2531 i gotchu [28-Feb-21 12:45 PM] Raov#2531 releasing all data i mined on him [28-Feb-21 12:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Nah man [28-Feb-21 12:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Imma just have Doomkid do a video [28-Feb-21 12:46 PM] Frax314#7488 He really probably will. [28-Feb-21 12:46 PM] Frax314#7488 And he's an esteemed Doomworld member [28-Feb-21 12:46 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 whAT NO RAOV WAIt- [28-Feb-21 12:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Kekw [28-Feb-21 12:46 PM] Raov#2531 damn hes pretty big [28-Feb-21 12:46 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 You don't have to go ***that*** all in [28-Feb-21 12:46 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 holy shit [28-Feb-21 12:47 PM] Raov#2531 oh yes i will [28-Feb-21 12:47 PM] Raov#2531 oh **yes i will** [28-Feb-21 12:47 PM] Raov#2531 jk [28-Feb-21 12:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 no plEASe [28-Feb-21 12:47 PM] Frax314#7488 He is a real point of reference for Doomworld. [28-Feb-21 12:47 PM] Raov#2531 if we got him on our side then we basically won (?) [28-Feb-21 12:47 PM] Raov#2531 do we? [28-Feb-21 12:48 PM] Frax314#7488 As far as Doomworld goes. [28-Feb-21 12:48 PM] Frax314#7488 But we'll still have to warn ZDF and there is **no way** to help out ModDB. [28-Feb-21 12:48 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 what other facets of the community can I tell [28-Feb-21 12:48 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wait [28-Feb-21 12:48 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I remembered [28-Feb-21 12:48 PM] Frax314#7488 ? [28-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Dragonfly's one of the Prodeus devs [28-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I'm in the Prodeus Discord [28-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Frax314#7488 Don't say anything [28-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh [28-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Frax314#7488 He is a Doomworld user [28-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Frax314#7488 And Doomkid's friend [28-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yeah that was *exactly* why I brought it up... [28-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Frax314#7488 You just ought to share the video at most when it's up [28-Feb-21 12:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 aight [28-Feb-21 12:50 PM] Frax314#7488 "19$ dollars Listeronum card, who wants it? And remember, share, share, share. And zandrocucks -- don't get BLOCKED." [28-Feb-21 12:50 PM] Raov#2531 lamo [28-Feb-21 12:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 > If you file this off as nothing, but it is in fact such an overwhelming menace, all of your community will perish, or at least its popularity forever after Jesus christ it's just a sourceport that's doing a great injustice [28-Feb-21 12:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 you didn't have to make it *that* hyperbolic [28-Feb-21 12:50 PM] Raov#2531 actually lemme make this real [28-Feb-21 12:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 goddamn [28-Feb-21 12:50 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean. [28-Feb-21 12:51 PM] Frax314#7488 It WILL destroy the community. [28-Feb-21 12:51 PM] Frax314#7488 If it becomes popular. [28-Feb-21 12:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 at best it will just become a Doom community Cold War [28-Feb-21 12:51 PM] Frax314#7488 As the previous modders will all be banned [28-Feb-21 12:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 and it probably won't touch NuDoom community that much [28-Feb-21 12:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Implying the forums' and nuDoom communities overlap-- [28-Feb-21 12:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 lmao [28-Feb-21 12:52 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean the Classic Doom modding community clearly. [28-Feb-21 12:52 PM] Frax314#7488 But if you wanna make it tamer you can try... [28-Feb-21 12:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Ah snap, Doomkid was last online 7 hours ago, meaning he is nightly (in respect to my timezone) [28-Feb-21 12:55 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I wanna write some shit on the message, something like "On February 27, 2021, an incident occurred over on the Romero's Games Discord, that publicly confirms the existence of a Doom sourceport named 'Listeronum'. Promised contents of this sourceport include multi-threaded cores support, ZScript functionality, and Multiplayer support. Despite this, it was also confirmed that this will all be ***Paid***, at the price of 15$. We have also received information that two top Doom modders, Pa1nkiller, developer of Project Brutality, and SgtMarkIV, developer of Brutal Doom, are involved with such a preposterous deal" [28-Feb-21 12:55 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but I might be seen publicly [28-Feb-21 12:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Nah [28-Feb-21 12:56 PM] Frax314#7488 We will start from the roots of the situation. [28-Feb-21 12:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh no [28-Feb-21 12:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Complex Doom Drama lore [28-Feb-21 12:56 PM] Frax314#7488 That is, I'll make public my screenshots. [28-Feb-21 12:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Maybe with my name and pfp blurred out. [28-Feb-21 12:57 PM] Raov#2531 blur out your timestamps btw [28-Feb-21 12:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Are we *sure* this'll "mend" your name in the Doom community? [28-Feb-21 12:57 PM] Frax314#7488 Right. I don't need to mend anything. I am no modder. [28-Feb-21 12:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 sounds like whatever Lister cronies who hated your guts would likely get riled up anyways when you make this information public [28-Feb-21 12:58 PM] Frax314#7488 And I'm not involved with the modding except Hunter's Moon [28-Feb-21 12:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 alright [28-Feb-21 12:58 PM] Frax314#7488 They can tantrum as much as they like, they won't find me anyway [28-Feb-21 12:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 you're willing to pretty much kamikaze whatever reputation you have to prevent a paid sourceport from ever getting out [28-Feb-21 12:59 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 that's some fucking commitment [28-Feb-21 12:59 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but I will confirm this, during the shenanigans in Romero's Discord, *no one* was fine with the 15$ price tag [28-Feb-21 12:59 PM] Frax314#7488 Good [28-Feb-21 01:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 and you know let's be fuckin serious, I doubt any Doom kiddie has 15$ to spare just to get a Doom sourceport [28-Feb-21 01:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hell I don't have that much [28-Feb-21 01:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I'm gonna use it on other things [28-Feb-21 01:00 PM] Frax314#7488 Correct [28-Feb-21 01:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so I doubt it'd get anywhere near the popularity you suggest [28-Feb-21 01:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 and people would definitely be super fucking railed when they hear about the DRM [28-Feb-21 01:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 (speaking of which when can I leak that) [28-Feb-21 01:02 PM] Raov#2531 meanwhile at lister hq or whatever *btw this contains decodable NOAA SAME data, also loud* {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/815524286726144020/a.wav [28-Feb-21 01:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 tf was the thing about NOAA SAME data again [28-Feb-21 01:02 PM] Raov#2531 it is decodable [28-Feb-21 01:02 PM] Raov#2531 use seatty or similar to decode [28-Feb-21 01:03 PM] Frax314#7488 You understimate the power of ModDBlets [28-Feb-21 01:03 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 does it say something like "ur moms so fat she could eat the whole mcdonalds" or something [28-Feb-21 01:03 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [28-Feb-21 01:03 PM] Raov#2531 no [28-Feb-21 01:04 PM] Raov#2531 just decode and see [28-Feb-21 01:04 PM] Raov#2531 btw if youre on linux minimodem can do [28-Feb-21 01:04 PM] Frax314#7488 https://youtu.be/QzBEjJHGUas {Embed} YoBoiYobert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzBEjJHGUas Russian Minecraft Kid Blyat Sound Effect just download using the link at hentaihaven or smth idunno. blyat https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/GaYDnnxY6MaCDllDNDafxmwHOH7bDVYhBhFX79hUQRw/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/QzBEjJHGUas/maxresdefault.jpg [28-Feb-21 01:04 PM] Frax314#7488 More accurate representation [28-Feb-21 01:04 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [28-Feb-21 01:05 PM] Raov#2531 wait no i got a better one [28-Feb-21 01:06 PM] Raov#2531 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/815525446598656030/Russian_guy_hits_head.mp4 [28-Feb-21 01:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 alright yall [28-Feb-21 01:10 PM] Raov#2531 ? [28-Feb-21 01:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 nah I just wanted to say "alright yall" [28-Feb-21 01:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but aside from that [28-Feb-21 01:10 PM] Raov#2531 mf monika 2 [28-Feb-21 01:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Listeronum was meant to be released this March right [28-Feb-21 01:10 PM] Raov#2531 i think so [28-Feb-21 01:11 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 AKA "literally between tomorrow and March 31" [28-Feb-21 01:11 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh also [28-Feb-21 01:11 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 do we have any updates in the Schism server [28-Feb-21 01:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Remember that it may also be postponed [28-Feb-21 01:14 PM] Frax314#7488 At which point it might come even in Summer [28-Feb-21 01:15 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 or maybe we can postpone it indefinitely {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/815527554396061726/evil.png [28-Feb-21 01:35 PM] Frax314#7488 Kek [28-Feb-21 02:06 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 That, and the mod black/grey/whitelists [28-Feb-21 02:07 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Nothing can get the average person more riled up than a higher power playing favourites. [28-Feb-21 02:07 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Especially when it involves direct monetary consequences. [28-Feb-21 02:22 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh yes [28-Feb-21 02:23 PM] Frax314#7488 We need to include in the ZDF post that Marisa and potentially many other ZDF modders will be blacklisted [28-Feb-21 02:30 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 we should also mention that in Lister's general area people there are likely homophobic so it's a yikerz for all the progressive Doom modders [28-Feb-21 02:44 PM] polyzium#0481 SAME is a modem-like FSK modulation thing used to transfer digital data [28-Feb-21 02:45 PM] Raov#2531 *they dont understand what FSK is ya know* [28-Feb-21 02:45 PM] polyzium#0481 Frequency Shift Keying [28-Feb-21 02:45 PM] Raov#2531 ^ [28-Feb-21 02:45 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 you think I'm an epicks gamer slav друг like you guys?? XD [28-Feb-21 02:45 PM] polyzium#0481 Also I'm on phone so I can't decode that [28-Feb-21 02:45 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [28-Feb-21 02:45 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh, we will... [28-Feb-21 02:46 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 of course I don't know what an FSK shitamathingy is [28-Feb-21 02:47 PM] polyzium#0481 Then I'm probably gonna make your brain explode if I start explaining what it is and how it works [28-Feb-21 02:47 PM] Raov#2531 tl;dr 0 is low freq 1 is high freq [28-Feb-21 02:49 PM] polyzium#0481 Basically you have a sine sound tone of which changes depending on bit's state [28-Feb-21 02:50 PM] polyzium#0481 And that tone changes quickly, the speed is measured in bits per second or baud [28-Feb-21 02:50 PM] Raov#2531 *mans going full theory mode damn* [28-Feb-21 02:51 PM] polyzium#0481 SAME is around 700-something baud I think? [28-Feb-21 02:51 PM] Raov#2531 530something [28-Feb-21 02:51 PM] polyzium#0481 Well I was wrong [28-Feb-21 02:51 PM] Raov#2531 1.92ms per bit [28-Feb-21 02:51 PM] Raov#2531 520.8333 baud [28-Feb-21 02:52 PM] Raov#2531 btw https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/Emergency_Alert_System_(EAS) {Embed} https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/Emergency_Alert_System_(EAS) Emergency Alert System (EAS) The Emergency Alert System (EAS) is a national warning system in the United States, implemented since 1997, superceding the Emergency Broadcast System (EBS). [28-Feb-21 02:52 PM] Raov#2531 the site itself is very useful [28-Feb-21 02:52 PM] polyzium#0481 What should I download to my phone [28-Feb-21 02:52 PM] Raov#2531 idek [28-Feb-21 02:58 PM] shotfan#6872 What the fuck is happening [28-Feb-21 02:58 PM] shotfan#6872 Something happened yesterday at Romero's Games? [28-Feb-21 02:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 > "On February 27, 2021, an incident occurred over on the Romero's Games Discord, that publicly confirms the existence of a Doom sourceport named 'Listeronum'. Promised contents of this sourceport include multi-threaded cores support, ZScript functionality, and Multiplayer support. Despite this, it was also confirmed that this will all be Paid, at the price of 15$. We have also received information that two top Doom modders, Pa1nkiller, developer of Project Brutality, and SgtMarkIV, developer of Brutal Doom, are involved with such a preposterous deal" [28-Feb-21 03:00 PM] shotfan#6872 What was the incident? [28-Feb-21 03:00 PM] shotfan#6872 Who started it? [28-Feb-21 03:00 PM] shotfan#6872 What is the evidence that Pa1n and Sarge agreed to Lister's scam? [28-Feb-21 03:00 PM] shotfan#6872 (Pa1n is the lead developer of PB BTW) [28-Feb-21 03:04 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 you brainlet, ***READ*** Also Frax has the evidence regarding Pa1n and Sarge iirc [28-Feb-21 03:06 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 also I """inquired""" about the port on the Discord because Kinnerkohn was a Lister simp [28-Feb-21 03:06 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 a Lisimp if you will [28-Feb-21 03:11 PM] shotfan#6872 Shut the fuck up [28-Feb-21 03:11 PM] shotfan#6872 Can you just answer what exactly happened instead of giving a summary that has no direct citations? [28-Feb-21 03:12 PM] shotfan#6872 What did confirm the existence of Listeronum? [28-Feb-21 03:12 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister self advertisement? [28-Feb-21 03:12 PM] shotfan#6872 And yeah, I want to see Pa1n and Sarge posts, not Lister and cronies boasting about it. [28-Feb-21 03:12 PM] shotfan#6872 If you want to incriminate them, you fucking better be ready. [28-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Fluffy#5319 It was someone named Kinnerokhn [28-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Fluffy#5319 Hope i spelled that correct [28-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Fluffy#5319 But he came to the server and spilled some beans [28-Feb-21 03:16 PM] shotfan#6872 I know the guy. [28-Feb-21 03:16 PM] Fluffy#5319 Those beans [28-Feb-21 03:16 PM] shotfan#6872 Another asshole. [28-Feb-21 03:17 PM] shotfan#6872 So the beans are promotion of Listeronum? [28-Feb-21 03:17 PM] Fluffy#5319 I think so [28-Feb-21 03:18 PM] Fluffy#5319 if you read way above this channel you can see bulalo had a fit with him [28-Feb-21 03:18 PM] shotfan#6872 Which channel? [28-Feb-21 03:19 PM] Fluffy#5319 https://discord.com/channels/@me/786555353407029270/814842642478137384 [28-Feb-21 03:19 PM] shotfan#6872 Ah that. [28-Feb-21 03:21 PM] shotfan#6872 uh oh [28-Feb-21 03:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Grey Wolf thinking aloud about LiTDoom multiplayer, complains that GZDoom has shit netcode... [28-Feb-21 03:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Not good. [28-Feb-21 03:22 PM] shotfan#6872 I hope he does not consider entering business with Lister... [28-Feb-21 03:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Anyway, where in RG server that incident happened? Which channel? [28-Feb-21 03:24 PM] Fluffy#5319 Not really in the server so [28-Feb-21 03:24 PM] Fluffy#5319 But bulalo is [28-Feb-21 03:27 PM] Frax314#7488 You can teach him [28-Feb-21 03:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh right you didn't play HM coop on GZ [28-Feb-21 03:29 PM] Frax314#7488 GZ netcode is not **THAT** shit, btw. [28-Feb-21 03:30 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 iirc, GZ netcode runs a lot of shit at a time with things like DECORATE [28-Feb-21 03:30 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so pretty much impossible to run large maps like NUTS [28-Feb-21 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Bullshit [28-Feb-21 03:31 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 because, since it runs a lot of things with DECORATE, it wouldn't run well [28-Feb-21 03:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Hunter's Moon has ridiculous amounts of monsters [28-Feb-21 03:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Yet it plays like offline at 2 people [28-Feb-21 03:31 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 like, NUTS levels? [28-Feb-21 03:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Pretty much and everything is 3D models [28-Feb-21 03:31 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 because a thousand enemies period is fine Thousands in one frame is a problem [28-Feb-21 03:32 PM] Frax314#7488 If Grey Wolf does not aim for massive 8+ coop parties, which I don't think because his mod is tactical, just drop me his tag and I'll seek to illuminate him [28-Feb-21 03:32 PM] Frax314#7488 You gotta see it to understand what I mean [28-Feb-21 03:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Frax [28-Feb-21 03:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Show the evidence of Pa1n's and Sarge's complicity [28-Feb-21 03:43 PM] Frax314#7488 I have no evidence of THEIR complicity [28-Feb-21 03:43 PM] Frax314#7488 But Li$ter mentioned them, remember? [28-Feb-21 03:46 PM] Frax314#7488 ...I wonder what happens if we ask **them** if they know what Listeronum is... [28-Feb-21 03:48 PM] shotfan#6872 So yeah [28-Feb-21 03:48 PM] shotfan#6872 Do not get all riled up when I ask for evidence that we DO NOT have. [28-Feb-21 03:49 PM] shotfan#6872 What do you think is going to happen if we accuse Pa1n and Sarge like that, huh? [28-Feb-21 03:49 PM] shotfan#6872 If we do not have screenshots of their agreement, we have NOTHING. [28-Feb-21 03:50 PM] shotfan#6872 We only have such evidence for Lothar. [28-Feb-21 03:51 PM] shotfan#6872 So do not go around and throw in BD and PB into Lister's lap, or their developers are going to deny their involvement, leaving us seem like we are merely slandering them. [28-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But that begs the question; why did Lister mention that they were interested in the first place? [28-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Feels like the cunt's bluffing [28-Feb-21 03:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ESPECIALLY since Lister's squad allegedly doxxed a PB dev AKA a close compatriot of Pa1n [28-Feb-21 03:53 PM] shotfan#6872 Lister can say anything he wants, but this word is not enough. [28-Feb-21 03:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Oh also Kinner also said Pa1n and Mark were interested [28-Feb-21 03:53 PM] shotfan#6872 The interested parties need to confirm the allegations. [28-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Well from what I recall Mark, while probably still a narcissist is fairly active in the BD Discord [28-Feb-21 03:54 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not care what Lister's side says, that is irrelevant in this case. [28-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 We could start there [28-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But I doubt Pa1n can be talked to [28-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Man barely has an online presence [28-Feb-21 03:54 PM] shotfan#6872 That is right. [28-Feb-21 03:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Hell I don't even know if he exists [28-Feb-21 03:55 PM] shotfan#6872 I saw some photos of him. [28-Feb-21 03:55 PM] shotfan#6872 I would say that he is no fictional invention lol [28-Feb-21 03:55 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ~~does he look like a Redditor by any chance~~ [28-Feb-21 03:55 PM] shotfan#6872 No [28-Feb-21 03:55 PM] shotfan#6872 Looks more like a gym rat [28-Feb-21 03:55 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Goddamn [28-Feb-21 03:55 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~hard to distinguish from Marcos~~ [28-Feb-21 03:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Oh also the dude on one of Mark's old online pfps is himself right [28-Feb-21 03:56 PM] shotfan#6872 The one superimposed on the nuke explosion, right. [28-Feb-21 03:56 PM] shotfan#6872 That should be him. [28-Feb-21 03:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Now that's an ego Ahahahahaha *looks at my pfp* [28-Feb-21 03:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Reject humanity [28-Feb-21 03:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Return to monke [28-Feb-21 03:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Become scattergun [28-Feb-21 03:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Close enough [28-Feb-21 03:57 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~only I need no brain to function~~ [28-Feb-21 03:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Also the fuck is gonna happen to this group chat after we shitcan Lister's operation [28-Feb-21 03:57 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~Burn the files~~ [28-Feb-21 03:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Like, months or even years after we successfully dick over Listeronum [28-Feb-21 03:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Does Brazil simply cease to be [28-Feb-21 03:58 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~Do we have enough salt supplies~~ [28-Feb-21 03:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 would you know what to do with it [28-Feb-21 03:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ~~also yeah we got enough salt~~ [28-Feb-21 04:00 PM] shotfan#6872 I propose this contingency: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/815569111618289704/shutitdown.jpg [28-Feb-21 04:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Nothing [28-Feb-21 04:07 PM] Frax314#7488 EXCEPT [28-Feb-21 04:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Li$ter won't just walk away defeated yknow [28-Feb-21 04:08 PM] shotfan#6872 So what? [28-Feb-21 04:19 PM] Frax314#7488 So we'll remain militant in case he tries more bullshit [28-Feb-21 04:19 PM] Frax314#7488 And often, information won't spread itself... [28-Feb-21 04:20 PM] shotfan#6872 Sure thing. [28-Feb-21 04:20 PM] shotfan#6872 Also, where is that drama in RG Discord? [28-Feb-21 04:20 PM] shotfan#6872 I am lurking there, but there is a lot of channels, you know. [28-Feb-21 04:20 PM] shotfan#6872 Which channel that was? [28-Feb-21 04:21 PM] Frax314#7488 @Sinigang the Philippine Soup [28-Feb-21 04:21 PM] Frax314#7488 What channel was it [28-Feb-21 04:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Also shotfan you can search Bulalo's messages. [28-Feb-21 04:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Not right now though. [28-Feb-21 04:22 PM] shotfan#6872 I am going to be going soon. [28-Feb-21 04:22 PM] shotfan#6872 I will be back on evening. [28-Feb-21 04:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Yeah so I basically """inquired""" about the sourceport [28-Feb-21 04:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Since I slept on Kinnerkohn mentioning Listeronum a good few times [28-Feb-21 04:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 So pretty much it was public way before shit went sideways yesterday [28-Feb-21 04:55 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Of course I played stupid and when I heard the price I went "wat fiften dolar for zandorum fork??/?" [28-Feb-21 04:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And pretty much he said it was because Lister's a salty cunt who hates MiFu, Dusted and the rest of Clusterfuck's team so much he's goin to defy public licensing laws and moral jurisdiction to put a paywall over a sourceport [28-Feb-21 04:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Like not even SgtMark would stoop that low to own the H4T0RZ [28-Feb-21 04:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 By this point I had already leaked it to the QCDE Discord [28-Feb-21 04:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Bryina knew already ofc [28-Feb-21 04:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 But uh Fragbait (Steve) was understandably confused [28-Feb-21 04:58 PM] Frax314#7488 Huh [28-Feb-21 04:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Around this time I got Bryina to join in the pain train in Romero's Discord [28-Feb-21 04:59 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 We also spent a good few moments of shilling Q-Zandronum 😎 [28-Feb-21 05:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 From what I recalled, literally only Kinnerkohn thought this was a good idea [28-Feb-21 05:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Everyone else in there was pretty much going like "bruh 15 dollars?", "but the license", "this is a scam", etc. [28-Feb-21 05:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I am 100% surprised two things did not happen the day after that A massive influx of Russian Lister cronies raiding the Discord and pretty much saying "Mifu cringe Lister kek" while simultaneously posting gore gifs everywhere Lister just one upping and announces Listeronum publicly [28-Feb-21 05:05 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Li$ter committing a Li$ter [28-Feb-21 05:06 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Oddly enough Lister actually *left* the server [28-Feb-21 05:06 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Romero's Games [28-Feb-21 05:07 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Guess he was too mad they were accepting of nonbinary people [28-Feb-21 05:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Kek [28-Feb-21 06:10 PM] Raov#2531 meme in the making [28-Feb-21 06:10 PM] Raov#2531 im fr fr {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/815601839080210442/unknown.png [28-Feb-21 06:14 PM] Frax314#7488 Nice [28-Feb-21 06:15 PM] Frax314#7488 If we win make the NO MORE FORTNITE one :P [28-Feb-21 06:16 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [28-Feb-21 06:16 PM] Raov#2531 i will [28-Feb-21 06:27 PM] Raov#2531 its done [28-Feb-21 06:27 PM] Raov#2531 rendering [28-Feb-21 06:29 PM] Raov#2531 (pinned) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/815606508410109992/zandrococks.mp4 [28-Feb-21 06:29 PM] Raov#2531 enjoj [28-Feb-21 06:37 PM] Frax314#7488 PURE PERFECTION [28-Feb-21 06:38 PM] Frax314#7488 This is some YTP master level sentence mixing [28-Feb-21 06:39 PM] Frax314#7488 Mind if I send it to Bryina for kicks [28-Feb-21 06:40 PM] Frax314#7488 Pinned a message. [28-Feb-21 07:09 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Don't get blocked [28-Feb-21 08:50 PM] Frax314#7488 @YourpalZ3R0 has anything more happened in the Schism server? [28-Feb-21 09:01 PM] Fluffy#5319 Frax about the google docs thing [28-Feb-21 09:01 PM] Fluffy#5319 What should I write there? [28-Feb-21 09:02 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 a wholesome fan fiction? [28-Feb-21 09:11 PM] Frax314#7488 It's the warning to ZDoom Forums [28-Feb-21 09:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Write anything you know about Li$ter there, presenting it in that fashion [28-Feb-21 09:12 PM] Fluffy#5319 Hmm ok [28-Feb-21 09:29 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 No. Aside from members like admins referencing shotfan every now and then, it's still usual business for the most part. [28-Feb-21 11:08 PM] shotfan#6872 So, a gore raid. [28-Feb-21 11:08 PM] shotfan#6872 How those braindead cocksuckers expect that tactic to help them? [28-Feb-21 11:09 PM] shotfan#6872 Persuading people by pissing them off with raids, such advanced propagit [28-Feb-21 11:59 PM] Frax314#7488 ? [28-Feb-21 11:59 PM] Frax314#7488 Where? [01-Mar-21 12:41 AM] Fluffy#5319 What, again? [01-Mar-21 12:51 AM] shotfan#6872 What Bulalo said: ``I am 100% surprised two things did not happen the day after that A massive influx of Russian Lister cronies raiding the Discord and pretty much saying "Mifu cringe Lister kek" while simultaneously posting gore gifs everywhere Lister just one upping and announces Listeronum publicly`` [01-Mar-21 12:51 AM] shotfan#6872 Meanwhile Lister posts some more map previews on the LiTDoom server. [01-Mar-21 12:51 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 ***Lister just one upping and announces Listeronum publicly*** Mad lad [01-Mar-21 12:52 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 he's taking everyone out [01-Mar-21 12:52 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 including himself [01-Mar-21 01:36 AM] Fluffy#5319 @Frax314 Wrote a bunch of stuff in the document [01-Mar-21 01:38 AM] Fluffy#5319 Let me know if I missed anything [01-Mar-21 01:45 AM] Fluffy#5319 Man that manipulation part is not even funny [01-Mar-21 03:47 AM] Fluffy#5319 Oh and don't share it as I might rewrite some of the stuff and perhaps make myself anonymous [01-Mar-21 03:47 AM] Fluffy#5319 Would probably be best [01-Mar-21 03:48 AM] Fluffy#5319 The first part was based on info I got from when I first joined the cf community two years ago [01-Mar-21 03:48 AM] Fluffy#5319 While the 2nd part is from here [01-Mar-21 03:50 AM] Fluffy#5319 Still [01-Mar-21 03:50 AM] Fluffy#5319 I've tried LSD and it's actually somewhat interesting. Shame about the community side though [01-Mar-21 03:54 AM] Fluffy#5319 If there was a possibility that LSD's acs would be shared it could mean someone could take over the project if things go south for them which hopefully will be the case, someone that isn't lister and without eager for revenge [01-Mar-21 05:57 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 what happened with contacting Doomkid [01-Mar-21 06:36 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh right [01-Mar-21 06:36 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 Last I heard Doomkid's in Romero's Discord [01-Mar-21 08:45 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 aw fuck [01-Mar-21 08:45 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he's actually offline this time [01-Mar-21 09:56 AM] Raov#2531 not at all [01-Mar-21 09:56 AM] Raov#2531 i know nobody in the doom scene anyways lmao [01-Mar-21 10:22 AM] Frax314#7488 Ah fuck [01-Mar-21 10:23 AM] Frax314#7488 Doomkid read my PM on Doomworld, but didn't answer [01-Mar-21 10:23 AM] Frax314#7488 Was last online one hour ago [01-Mar-21 02:54 PM] polyzium#0481 Link to the doc pls [01-Mar-21 03:05 PM] Frax314#7488 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SV-oBouSZ-TLGWSmCtzQlE313xrOO0388sOvtvOKAnA/edit?usp=drivesdk {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SV-oBouSZ-TLGWSmCtzQlE313xrOO0388sOvtvOKAnA/edit?usp=drivesdk ZDF warning post First of all, I would like everyone to take in mind that you all must be prepared for the worst. If in the end all this is not as much of a threat as on paper, you will be able to breath a sigh of relief. If you file this off as nothing, but it is in fact such an overwhelming menace, all of your ... https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/zloLiTNOQZRbkyUzQ9IX3IEm_bhGOpye3Blt4tIilGo/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/G0ZD0qWskgO6jJkAYaWHKAeaUX21eURwZ6GT7oRSlMRUrDku_FV1fC_R3awHdrAGnq0h-ZroIQU0XA%3Dw1200-h630-p [01-Mar-21 03:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Lemme review Fluffy's stuff [01-Mar-21 03:07 PM] Frax314#7488 @Fluffy where is the proof of the doxxing et cetera? [01-Mar-21 03:07 PM] Frax314#7488 No screenshots, no mention. [01-Mar-21 03:07 PM] Frax314#7488 It's the rule. [01-Mar-21 03:07 PM] Raov#2531 ah yes, doxing. [01-Mar-21 03:07 PM] Raov#2531 my ballpark [01-Mar-21 03:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Lol [01-Mar-21 03:08 PM] Raov#2531 ```The real issue here is to be able to play on Listeronum's multiplayer servers you will need to pay a monthly subscription service a the cost of.... 20$ bucks. ``` wait [01-Mar-21 03:08 PM] Raov#2531 20 bucks for MP? [01-Mar-21 03:08 PM] Frax314#7488 No...? [01-Mar-21 03:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Fluffy seems to have been a bit confused there, heh [01-Mar-21 03:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Remember [01-Mar-21 03:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Prices are in the pins [01-Mar-21 03:11 PM] Frax314#7488 Let me adjust this a little. I will mark where we need screenshots for proof. [01-Mar-21 03:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Done with the first part [01-Mar-21 03:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Gonna do the second in a bit [01-Mar-21 03:23 PM] Frax314#7488 I think it would be useful if we divided the post in testimonies if possible... [01-Mar-21 03:33 PM] Frax314#7488 I think I should do the part about Listeronum though, having access to the most info on it, unless we do divide in testimonies like that. [01-Mar-21 03:35 PM] Frax314#7488 Fyi to submit proof just drop the screenshots anywhere on Discord and then copy the sharing link. [01-Mar-21 04:15 PM] Fluffy#5319 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/815935369220587570/Screenshot_42.png [01-Mar-21 04:16 PM] Fluffy#5319 This was an old message from the LSD server. This guy has DJB's face on it [01-Mar-21 04:16 PM] Fluffy#5319 There was also stuff related to Killerkouhai showing naked photos [01-Mar-21 04:16 PM] Fluffy#5319 I think [01-Mar-21 04:17 PM] Fluffy#5319 If I ask for proof about that i'm just gonna get myself blocked [01-Mar-21 04:17 PM] Fluffy#5319 I wasn't really there when it happened, this is all info I gathered when I first joined [01-Mar-21 04:18 PM] Fluffy#5319 Also https://discord.com/channels/@me/786555353407029270/789814053371510824 [01-Mar-21 04:18 PM] Fluffy#5319 This says 20 bucks [01-Mar-21 04:18 PM] Fluffy#5319 And 15 for veterans [01-Mar-21 04:19 PM] Fluffy#5319 And Frax i'm pretty sure you know about the doxing stuff since you were present in the community at that time [01-Mar-21 04:25 PM] Frax314#7488 I did not see any of them *dox*. [01-Mar-21 04:25 PM] Frax314#7488 Doxxing is releasing private info. [01-Mar-21 04:26 PM] Fluffy#5319 I'm pretty sure they did something related to doxxing, this is what I know about lister [01-Mar-21 04:26 PM] Fluffy#5319 But yeah if you really need solid proof I might need to rewrite stuff a whole lot [01-Mar-21 04:33 PM] Fluffy#5319 Also giving proof about doxxing is pretty much like saying you want to see the private info itself [01-Mar-21 04:34 PM] Fluffy#5319 Which i'm not gonna do [01-Mar-21 04:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Correct, only if the thing's entirely out of the bag, which it isn't. [01-Mar-21 04:36 PM] Frax314#7488 Remember yall again, no proof no mention, that is **the** argument Li$ter has aganist *us.* [01-Mar-21 04:38 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh, anyway we'll need to be clearer [01-Mar-21 04:49 PM] Fluffy#5319 And about the raiding, sorry I don't have proof on that [01-Mar-21 04:49 PM] Fluffy#5319 But it's absolutely clear they did it [01-Mar-21 04:49 PM] Fluffy#5319 And also widely known [01-Mar-21 04:53 PM] Frax314#7488 But is there anyone unbiased to testimony it was, in fact, LSD members? [01-Mar-21 04:54 PM] Fluffy#5319 Yeah like actual LSD member raided Cooke's server when he first created it, and it happened like a few days later [01-Mar-21 04:55 PM] Fluffy#5319 Should've gotten some more proof though [01-Mar-21 04:55 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah we'll need people to confirm for that. [01-Mar-21 04:55 PM] Frax314#7488 Or we can't say shit. [01-Mar-21 09:58 PM] shotfan#6872 Same thing with Lister&co. claiming they have swayed Sarge and Pa1n to their side. [01-Mar-21 09:58 PM] shotfan#6872 No proof, no belief. [01-Mar-21 09:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Anyone can pull that from their arse for self-aggrandizement. [01-Mar-21 09:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Also.... who is Doomkid? [01-Mar-21 10:01 PM] Frax314#7488 I did tell Big Doomworld user and Doom youtuber [01-Mar-21 10:01 PM] Frax314#7488 I asked him if he wanted to know about a soon-to-be coming controversy, but he saw without responding. [02-Mar-21 02:20 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 he's in Romero's Discord [02-Mar-21 02:20 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I'll see if I could talk to him bout it [02-Mar-21 10:20 AM] Frax314#7488 No wait [02-Mar-21 10:20 AM] Frax314#7488 Let's see if he responds later maybe [02-Mar-21 01:27 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 uh [02-Mar-21 01:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 it's been 3 hours [02-Mar-21 01:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 has he responded [02-Mar-21 02:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 has the man responded [02-Mar-21 02:23 PM] Frax314#7488 No. [02-Mar-21 04:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Bruh [02-Mar-21 05:00 PM] Frax314#7488 Ikr [02-Mar-21 05:01 PM] shotfan#6872 🚬 [02-Mar-21 05:02 PM] Raov#2531 hurb [03-Mar-21 02:26 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *nothing yet?* [03-Mar-21 02:26 PM] Frax314#7488 Nope [03-Mar-21 02:26 PM] Raov#2531 damn shits silent [03-Mar-21 02:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 bRUH [03-Mar-21 02:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 We should probably take another course of action [03-Mar-21 02:37 PM] Frax314#7488 Doomkid ignored me entirely. [03-Mar-21 02:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Well fuck [03-Mar-21 02:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hmm [03-Mar-21 02:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wonder if he's active... [03-Mar-21 02:40 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I might be able to talk to him because he's in Romero's Discord [03-Mar-21 02:40 PM] Raov#2531 fug [03-Mar-21 02:40 PM] Frax314#7488 Wait Bulalo [03-Mar-21 02:40 PM] Frax314#7488 Lemme think [03-Mar-21 02:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 well take your time [03-Mar-21 02:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 cus Doomkid's inactive [03-Mar-21 02:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he *might* be invisible [03-Mar-21 02:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but yeah grey circle [03-Mar-21 02:58 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright you can try messaging him. This time however, unlike me, give as much info as possible, as precise as possible, ~~and don't get BLOCKED~~ and remember however to keep this group chat and its members a secret... [03-Mar-21 03:38 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ugh why me... [03-Mar-21 03:38 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 alright I'll see what I can do [03-Mar-21 03:38 PM] Frax314#7488 ACTUALLY [03-Mar-21 03:39 PM] Frax314#7488 Use the data you *should* know from your message history in Romero's Discord [03-Mar-21 03:39 PM] Frax314#7488 Then say you got "informed" for the details you wouldn't [03-Mar-21 03:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 okie [03-Mar-21 03:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 uh [03-Mar-21 03:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 this is what I sent to him [03-Mar-21 03:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 > heyo > stuff went down in Romero's Discord about a paid sourceport called "Listeronum", that promised quality of life features and advancements over GZDoom and Zandronum > it's similar to Zandronum but with added ZScript compatibility > and multicore-threading > the issue here is, however, is that this is a paid sourceport > its price is at 15$ [03-Mar-21 03:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 should I add anythign [03-Mar-21 03:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 [03-Mar-21 03:45 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 pLEASe [03-Mar-21 03:46 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I added this > and I believe that the community would definitely not like a sourceport that its developers consider is a "creme de la creme" of sourceports as a paid sourceport, for 15 dollars no less [03-Mar-21 03:46 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 should I tell him about the supposed DRM [03-Mar-21 03:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 ***PLEASE*** [03-Mar-21 03:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***HE CAN RESPOND AT ANY MOMENT HELP MY ASS*** [03-Mar-21 03:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 DO I SAY EVERYTHING [03-Mar-21 03:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 [03-Mar-21 03:48 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 WHY DID HE GO OFFLINE AT THE WORST ***FUCKING*** TIME [03-Mar-21 03:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Can ***ANYONE*** ELSE HELP ME [03-Mar-21 03:51 PM] Raov#2531 fuck [03-Mar-21 03:51 PM] Raov#2531 yeah i can [03-Mar-21 03:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***WHAT SHOULD I SAY*** [03-Mar-21 03:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 This is what I've said so far [03-Mar-21 03:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 > heyo > stuff went down in Romero's Discord about a paid sourceport called "Listeronum", that promised quality of life features and advancements over GZDoom and Zandronum > it's similar to Zandronum but with added ZScript compatibility > and multicore-threading > the issue here is, however, is that this is a paid sourceport > its price is at 15$ > and I believe that the community would definitely not like a sourceport that its developers consider is a "creme de la creme" of sourceports as a paid sourceport, for 15 dollars no less > I was also told some other unsavory things about this sourceport > rumors regarding a supposed DRM system, some sortof blacklist that only allowed certain mods to be played with the sourceport's 15$ price > while someone else in the Discord had said that you could play everything at the base price, I still wouldn't be sure about it, not to mention that all of this from the pricetag is already a violation of the GPL license, not to mention that the creator is willingly not going to make the port open source because of supposed "drama" between the section of the Doom community he's in [03-Mar-21 03:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 GUYS [03-Mar-21 03:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 DON'T LEAVE ME IN THE DARk [03-Mar-21 03:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 cool they left me in the dark [03-Mar-21 03:53 PM] Raov#2531 whatcha need [03-Mar-21 03:55 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 what else should I say other than "I think you would be the best person to talk to about this situation" [03-Mar-21 03:59 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ok cool [03-Mar-21 03:59 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I guess this'll do for now [03-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah [03-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 FINALLY [03-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 THANK GOD [03-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Frax314#7488 That is fine [03-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 IT TOOK YOU FOR FUCKING EVER [03-Mar-21 04:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 well, since he seems keen on avoiding you, and no doubt you probably told him something similar to "paid sourceport evil" to him on Doomworld then we should scour for other options in the meantime [03-Mar-21 04:03 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ...Frax [03-Mar-21 04:08 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oop he ***DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISAAAAAAAAAAPPEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAARED INTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT*** again [03-Mar-21 04:08 PM] Frax314#7488 No no [03-Mar-21 04:09 PM] Frax314#7488 I did not actually mention what the thing was exactly yet Hence why I hope for this one chance more [03-Mar-21 04:09 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ok then... [03-Mar-21 04:09 PM] Frax314#7488 AKA I did a dudumbo [03-Mar-21 04:09 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but if this fails... what now? [03-Mar-21 04:09 PM] Frax314#7488 That ZDF post will go on Doomworld too. [03-Mar-21 04:09 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh [03-Mar-21 04:09 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 riiight... [03-Mar-21 04:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I forgot it existed [03-Mar-21 04:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Doomkid is just an extra edge [03-Mar-21 04:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I was gonna do some internal monologue about it if it failed to get through lmfao [03-Mar-21 04:10 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I was gonna go ***"War... has changed"*** as everyone discovers in real time Complex Clusterfuck can't be played on 15$ software [03-Mar-21 04:11 PM] Frax314#7488 Brb [03-Mar-21 04:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh god he's gonna ***DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISAAAAAAAAAAPPEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAR INTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT*** again [03-Mar-21 04:24 PM] Frax314#7488 I heard that in my head lol [03-Mar-21 05:41 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 damn [03-Mar-21 05:41 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 panik [04-Mar-21 02:37 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 nothin yet [04-Mar-21 10:55 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 got it [04-Mar-21 10:55 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/816941911486234665/Screenshot_825.png [04-Mar-21 10:55 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 we good [04-Mar-21 11:00 AM] Raov#2531 fuckin perfect [04-Mar-21 11:07 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I have sent him all evidence [04-Mar-21 11:11 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 should I show him the subscriptionware shit, the prices + DoomKrakken taking our side [04-Mar-21 11:11 AM] Raov#2531 subscriptionware yes [04-Mar-21 11:11 AM] Raov#2531 prices yes [04-Mar-21 11:11 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 okok [04-Mar-21 11:11 AM] Raov#2531 but im not gonna say anything on the community stuff [04-Mar-21 11:11 AM] Raov#2531 ill let others decide [04-Mar-21 11:22 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hey @Frax314 it went through [04-Mar-21 11:25 AM] Frax314#7488 HELL YEAH [04-Mar-21 11:25 AM] Frax314#7488 We got 'm [04-Mar-21 11:25 AM] Raov#2531 ladies and mentlegen, we got doomkid [04-Mar-21 11:25 AM] Frax314#7488 The power of Doomworld supremacists will help us :DDDDD [04-Mar-21 11:26 AM] Raov#2531 oh shit wait [04-Mar-21 11:26 AM] Frax314#7488 A Doomworlder scorned can do anything lelelelel [04-Mar-21 11:28 AM] Raov#2531 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/816950330209861633/unknown.png [04-Mar-21 11:31 AM] Raov#2531 some people pay $60 monthly for this shit {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/816951069363666954/unknown.png {Reactions} 🇫 (2) [04-Mar-21 11:32 AM] Frax314#7488 Kek [04-Mar-21 11:32 AM] Raov#2531 nah i give up [04-Mar-21 11:32 AM] Raov#2531 lol [04-Mar-21 11:32 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 kek [04-Mar-21 11:36 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Good thing happun! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/816952350597447680/Fabulous_Spook_1.mp4 [04-Mar-21 11:37 AM] Frax314#7488 Bulalo, screenshot me the extra info you gave to him now [04-Mar-21 11:37 AM] Frax314#7488 In case some are a little too secret even for this [04-Mar-21 11:38 AM] Raov#2531 ready to dump the data [04-Mar-21 11:38 AM] Raov#2531 just gimme the word [04-Mar-21 11:39 AM] Frax314#7488 Bruhhh [04-Mar-21 11:46 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 no shit related to the information we have on Lister because ***SOMEONE*** *POKED HIS HEAD WHERE HE SHOULDN'T* {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/816954820648370226/Screenshot_836.png [04-Mar-21 11:46 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 [04-Mar-21 11:46 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I mean does it really matter [04-Mar-21 11:47 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I already told him [04-Mar-21 11:48 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I requested him for Brazil to remain anonymous *snicker* and he complied [04-Mar-21 11:48 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh and as well as me [04-Mar-21 11:48 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I don't want obese racist and homophobic Russians on my ass all day long [04-Mar-21 11:48 AM] Raov#2531 ill help you get em off if need be [04-Mar-21 11:49 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Raov if you send them to the KGB and into the [REDACTED] on [REDACTED] then I would be eternally grateful [04-Mar-21 01:01 PM] Frax314#7488 H E L L Y E A H [04-Mar-21 01:02 PM] Frax314#7488 I can't believe we pulled it off this well. Let's hope for the best [04-Mar-21 01:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Also Bulalo [04-Mar-21 01:11 PM] Frax314#7488 If you can, tell him he can inspect Kinnerkohn's messages for their own words. [04-Mar-21 02:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I already tossed him all the pics of what happened in Romero's Discord [04-Mar-21 02:43 PM] Frax314#7488 Aight [04-Mar-21 03:28 PM] shotfan#6872 What is AFA? [04-Mar-21 03:51 PM] Frax314#7488 as far I think [04-Mar-21 03:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 AFA I know it means "as far as" [04-Mar-21 03:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Thanks. So what now? [04-Mar-21 04:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 we wait [04-Mar-21 04:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 if Lister ever finds our bitchasses then we'll survive [04-Mar-21 04:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 by being dead [04-Mar-21 04:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***in pretend*** [04-Mar-21 04:00 PM] Raov#2531 let the eternity begin [04-Mar-21 04:00 PM] Raov#2531 nah we fight [04-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Raov#2531 at least i do [04-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 don't you mean ***eviternity*** [04-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *sees pfp* *looks back at comment* yeah sure [04-Mar-21 04:01 PM] shotfan#6872 Somebody watches TTS [04-Mar-21 04:01 PM] shotfan#6872 That is fine [04-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Raov#2531 want me to reveal one of his passwords? [04-Mar-21 04:01 PM] shotfan#6872 We can just pull a Lion [04-Mar-21 04:02 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~and live under a rock~~ [04-Mar-21 04:02 PM] Raov#2531 im already under a rock [04-Mar-21 04:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 sure you can reveal one of his passwords, but can you reveal your ***INNER FIGHTING SPIRIT!!!!*** [04-Mar-21 04:02 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [04-Mar-21 04:02 PM] Raov#2531 well you said so [04-Mar-21 04:02 PM] Raov#2531 027c*[redacted]* [04-Mar-21 04:03 PM] shotfan#6872 **ENTRY HAS BEEN PURGED BY A REQUEST OF HOLY INQUISITION** [04-Mar-21 04:03 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [04-Mar-21 04:04 PM] Raov#2531 027c1748 ***but nobody expects the doxxing inquisition*** [04-Mar-21 04:04 PM] shotfan#6872 DO NOT OPEN UNIDENTIFIED SOURCEPORTS [04-Mar-21 04:04 PM] Raov#2531 actually thats his old password [04-Mar-21 04:04 PM] shotfan#6872 MAY CONTAIN CYBERDAEMONS [04-Mar-21 04:04 PM] shotfan#6872 oh wait [04-Mar-21 04:05 PM] Raov#2531 ***CYBERDÆMONS*** [04-Mar-21 04:05 PM] shotfan#6872 ***METASTRONIC PRESENCE DETECTED*** [04-Mar-21 04:05 PM] Raov#2531 revealing passes each new message ```KVWfb6``` [04-Mar-21 04:05 PM] Raov#2531 might be active on some platforms, untested [04-Mar-21 04:06 PM] Raov#2531 *yes i have tested some* [04-Mar-21 04:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Lol. [04-Mar-21 04:22 PM] Raov#2531 and! [04-Mar-21 04:22 PM] Raov#2531 lister19@list.ru [04-Mar-21 04:22 PM] Raov#2531 his email [04-Mar-21 04:22 PM] Raov#2531 do what you want with it [04-Mar-21 04:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Bruhh [04-Mar-21 04:23 PM] Frax314#7488 I don't think so [04-Mar-21 04:23 PM] Raov#2531 dont think thats his email you mean? [04-Mar-21 04:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I will post him images of cute cats [04-Mar-21 04:24 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [04-Mar-21 04:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I won't [04-Mar-21 04:24 PM] Raov#2531 but first [04-Mar-21 04:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but if I wanted to I would [04-Mar-21 04:24 PM] Raov#2531 i mean dont do it just yet [04-Mar-21 04:24 PM] Raov#2531 let the situation spiral up first after doomkid makes a vid [04-Mar-21 04:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ok [04-Mar-21 04:24 PM] Raov#2531 then go fuckin wild [04-Mar-21 04:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 glad I told him about the release date and that it may get delayed [04-Mar-21 04:25 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 or else he would've went all triggerhappy [04-Mar-21 04:26 PM] Raov#2531 actually [04-Mar-21 04:26 PM] Raov#2531 do i go scare him a bit? [04-Mar-21 04:26 PM] Raov#2531 from a burner email [04-Mar-21 04:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah [04-Mar-21 04:30 PM] Raov#2531 oh boy i can confirm [04-Mar-21 04:30 PM] Raov#2531 gimme a sec [04-Mar-21 04:31 PM] Raov#2531 shiet mans changed his pass [04-Mar-21 04:32 PM] Raov#2531 sad [04-Mar-21 04:32 PM] Raov#2531 but the email is still valid, as i attempted logins to twitter, mail.ru (russian gmail) and some other service i cant remember anymore [04-Mar-21 04:32 PM] Frax314#7488 ????? [04-Mar-21 04:32 PM] Raov#2531 and [04-Mar-21 04:32 PM] Raov#2531 and [04-Mar-21 04:32 PM] Raov#2531 they succeeded [04-Mar-21 04:32 PM] Frax314#7488 You had got his fucking password [04-Mar-21 04:33 PM] Raov#2531 y e s [04-Mar-21 04:33 PM] Frax314#7488 B R U H [04-Mar-21 04:33 PM] Raov#2531 it was in a leak [04-Mar-21 04:33 PM] Frax314#7488 ~~Login and see his private shit lol~~ [04-Mar-21 04:33 PM] Frax314#7488 haveibeenpwned? [04-Mar-21 04:33 PM] Raov#2531 got blocked off by antihaxor shit [04-Mar-21 04:33 PM] Raov#2531 it doesnt reveal the pass [04-Mar-21 04:34 PM] Frax314#7488 Hmm But why [04-Mar-21 04:34 PM] Frax314#7488 W H Y [04-Mar-21 04:34 PM] Raov#2531 not [04-Mar-21 04:34 PM] Raov#2531 oh and the vk pass got leaked [04-Mar-21 04:34 PM] Raov#2531 i can try logging in but since its basically a government-backed facebook clone i dont wanna risk it [04-Mar-21 04:35 PM] Raov#2531 fuck it [04-Mar-21 04:35 PM] Raov#2531 yolo [04-Mar-21 04:36 PM] Frax314#7488 w h a t [04-Mar-21 04:36 PM] Raov#2531 yeah he changed the pass everywhere [04-Mar-21 04:36 PM] Raov#2531 vk fails [04-Mar-21 04:51 PM] shotfan#6872 Hmmmmmmmm [04-Mar-21 04:51 PM] shotfan#6872 Why are you doing this? [04-Mar-21 04:51 PM] Raov#2531 scaring tactic [04-Mar-21 04:52 PM] Frax314#7488 But [04-Mar-21 04:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Ah whatever [04-Mar-21 04:53 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not approve. [04-Mar-21 04:53 PM] shotfan#6872 We do not need this. [04-Mar-21 04:54 PM] Frax314#7488 ^ [04-Mar-21 04:54 PM] Frax314#7488 This is bloody nuts Don't [04-Mar-21 04:54 PM] shotfan#6872 Hacking into his accounts is going too far. [04-Mar-21 04:54 PM] shotfan#6872 Leave it. [04-Mar-21 04:55 PM] Raov#2531 nah i am not going to hack into his accounts [04-Mar-21 04:55 PM] Raov#2531 thats a nono [04-Mar-21 04:55 PM] Raov#2531 but if and when required it will be used as a scare tactic [04-Mar-21 04:55 PM] shotfan#6872 Figuring out his passwords and logging as him is hacking. [04-Mar-21 04:56 PM] Raov#2531 i did not manage to do anything before i got blocked off, so doesnt count as hacking yet [04-Mar-21 04:56 PM] shotfan#6872 Just do not try it at all. [04-Mar-21 04:56 PM] Raov#2531 im not [04-Mar-21 06:45 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Next thing you tell me you're doxxing him to scare him. [04-Mar-21 06:45 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 If we try any sort of malicious operations like this we wouldn't be any better than them you know. [04-Mar-21 06:45 PM] Raov#2531 im not releasing it to the public unless there is no other choice [04-Mar-21 06:45 PM] Raov#2531 in other words, last resort [04-Mar-21 06:46 PM] Raov#2531 and yeah i understand that [04-Mar-21 06:46 PM] shotfan#6872 And what that situation would exactly be? [04-Mar-21 06:46 PM] Raov#2531 i got no idea yet [04-Mar-21 06:46 PM] shotfan#6872 Yet? [04-Mar-21 06:46 PM] shotfan#6872 You do not have an excuse to use any of that. [04-Mar-21 06:46 PM] Raov#2531 yet well see how the situation evolves and base from there [04-Mar-21 06:47 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not imagine any reason that would justify collecting this data. [04-Mar-21 06:47 PM] shotfan#6872 Releasing Lister's private information is not going to help our cause at all. [04-Mar-21 06:47 PM] Raov#2531 i am not releasing it [04-Mar-21 06:47 PM] Raov#2531 under any circumstance [04-Mar-21 06:48 PM] Raov#2531 only to him [04-Mar-21 06:48 PM] shotfan#6872 Even then. [04-Mar-21 06:48 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 You think some russian nut job is going to care that you know his location anyways? [04-Mar-21 06:48 PM] Raov#2531 there is a possibility [04-Mar-21 06:49 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Hell, it's only reasons for him to call us out and make us look like the shit bags in the situation. [04-Mar-21 06:49 PM] shotfan#6872 And more fuel to his "the community is shit so I am not releasing the sourceport for free" drivel. [04-Mar-21 06:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Exactly [04-Mar-21 06:53 PM] Raov#2531 easier to sue/take the port down under gpl violation [04-Mar-21 06:54 PM] shotfan#6872 We do not need his private data. [04-Mar-21 06:55 PM] shotfan#6872 He is digging the grave for his reputation already with his shitfits. [04-Mar-21 06:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah he'll do himself in [05-Mar-21 02:34 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 "guys trust me I'm only entering his private accounts and addresses to scare him!" [05-Mar-21 10:27 AM] Frax314#7488 Bulalo any updates on Doomkid? Did he say or ask anything more? [05-Mar-21 11:08 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 nope [05-Mar-21 11:08 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he said what I sent him was more than enough [05-Mar-21 11:08 AM] Raov#2531 guess now we just patiently wait [05-Mar-21 11:08 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/817307674244939806/Screenshot_839.png [05-Mar-21 11:09 AM] Raov#2531 that was actually my primary intent [05-Mar-21 11:09 AM] Raov#2531 but lets not discuss that further [05-Mar-21 11:09 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *facepalm* [05-Mar-21 11:18 AM] Frax314#7488 Let's keep him updated in case of major but disclosable events [05-Mar-21 11:22 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 "major- Raov: *hastily brings up personal information recovered on Lister* -but disclosable events" Raov: *immediately hides it again* [05-Mar-21 01:03 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Me when some Russians in mommy's slav basement announce a brand spanking new Doom engine that does a bunch of good shit at a steep price releasing this month {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/817336444385230898/Screenshot_840.png [05-Mar-21 01:03 PM] Raov#2531 lol [05-Mar-21 01:04 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Ooh, 40KTTS references [05-Mar-21 01:04 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Love it [05-Mar-21 01:06 PM] Frax314#7488 Bulalo did you tell Doomkid the release was slated for about this month? [05-Mar-21 01:11 PM] shotfan#6872 YOU THOUGHT IT WAS ALPHARION [05-Mar-21 01:11 PM] shotfan#6872 BUT IT WAS ME, OMEGON! [05-Mar-21 02:05 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Yep [05-Mar-21 02:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Aight imma fix up Fluffy's testimony in the to-be ZDF post [05-Mar-21 02:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Since we don't got the evidence [05-Mar-21 02:21 PM] Frax314#7488 @shotfan it would be useful if you also added your own testimony regarding the literal corruption that went down on Schism's Discord. [05-Mar-21 02:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Also Fluffy if you got more certain info you should expand that more since it... suffered a heavy loss in content, heh [05-Mar-21 07:15 PM] Fluffy#5319 ok [06-Mar-21 12:03 AM] polyzium#0481 Meanwhile I'm sitting in front of one of writers' PCs when it's 12 AM here lmao [06-Mar-21 12:03 AM] Raov#2531 wha [06-Mar-21 12:03 AM] polyzium#0481 Fucking trying to reflash a damn phone [06-Mar-21 12:03 AM] Raov#2531 youre ballin out there [06-Mar-21 12:03 AM] polyzium#0481 mhm [06-Mar-21 12:03 AM] polyzium#0481 I decided to take a break [06-Mar-21 12:03 AM] Raov#2531 how did they even let you do that [06-Mar-21 12:03 AM] Raov#2531 like [06-Mar-21 12:03 AM] Raov#2531 bruh [06-Mar-21 12:04 AM] polyzium#0481 Well uhh how do I explain [06-Mar-21 12:04 AM] polyzium#0481 I have been elected to guard our military park [06-Mar-21 12:05 AM] polyzium#0481 And we were just walking around guarding the area but nobody was there so we said "fuck it, I know a place, let's go", so I'm here now [06-Mar-21 12:05 AM] polyzium#0481 literally nothing to do [06-Mar-21 12:06 AM] Raov#2531 god damn youre **extra** balling [06-Mar-21 12:06 AM] Raov#2531 dip included [06-Mar-21 12:06 AM] polyzium#0481 Not joking [06-Mar-21 12:06 AM] polyzium#0481 I could've taken a photo but it is against the military laws [06-Mar-21 12:07 AM] Raov#2531 meanwhile im most likely exempt from military service, all thanks to my disabilities [06-Mar-21 12:08 AM] polyzium#0481 A friend of mine here says that his home is 400km away from your home city [06-Mar-21 12:08 AM] Raov#2531 he in chelyabinsk or something? [06-Mar-21 12:08 AM] polyzium#0481 Yes, Chelyabinsk [06-Mar-21 12:09 AM] polyzium#0481 Anyway I'm trying to reset the screen lock password on a Samsung phone [06-Mar-21 12:09 AM] polyzium#0481 it is a fucking pain in the ass [06-Mar-21 12:09 AM] polyzium#0481 I can't enable USB debugging nor flash TWRP [06-Mar-21 12:43 AM] Raov#2531 @polyzium you can now make a VPS out of a google colab session [06-Mar-21 12:43 AM] polyzium#0481 FR? [06-Mar-21 12:43 AM] Raov#2531 yes. [06-Mar-21 12:43 AM] polyzium#0481 For how long? [06-Mar-21 12:43 AM] Raov#2531 idk [06-Mar-21 12:43 AM] Raov#2531 havent tested yet [06-Mar-21 12:44 AM] polyzium#0481 Colab allows for 12 hrs max last time I tried [06-Mar-21 12:44 AM] polyzium#0481 when testing Jukebox [06-Mar-21 12:44 AM] Raov#2531 https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1E7mFKCPazu-fSW6NTRQJVHNIz4SCK2Pr copy this to your gdrive, run the script, get registered on ngrok, copy-paste the token, and youre done {Embed} https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1E7mFKCPazu-fSW6NTRQJVHNIz4SCK2Pr Google Colaboratory https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/_K27snML6r0M3SI7nsBI0ZQHiyOFMrKc_HQm1RpU95o/https/colab.research.google.com/img/colab_favicon_256px.png [06-Mar-21 12:44 AM] Raov#2531 mining time [06-Mar-21 12:46 AM] polyzium#0481 Oh fuck [06-Mar-21 12:46 AM] polyzium#0481 Are you gonna mine bitcoin for fucking real? [06-Mar-21 12:46 AM] Raov#2531 grlc [06-Mar-21 12:46 AM] Raov#2531 maybe LTC [06-Mar-21 12:46 AM] Raov#2531 whatever is most profitable per share [06-Mar-21 12:47 AM] polyzium#0481 Uh oh someone owes google money [06-Mar-21 12:47 AM] Raov#2531 dun care m8 [06-Mar-21 12:47 AM] polyzium#0481 Lmfao I'm actually glad that I'm here [06-Mar-21 12:47 AM] Frax314#7488 Bruh take this to PMs lel [06-Mar-21 12:47 AM] Raov#2531 k [06-Mar-21 12:47 AM] polyzium#0481 Instead of sleeping I'm sitting in front of the PC doing my civilian things [06-Mar-21 12:47 AM] Raov#2531 lol [06-Mar-21 12:48 AM] polyzium#0481 @Frax314 Hey don't hesitate to join us [06-Mar-21 12:48 AM] Frax314#7488 Join you in what? [06-Mar-21 12:48 AM] polyzium#0481 Join the discussion because we're bored [06-Mar-21 12:48 AM] polyzium#0481 It's 0:45 [06-Mar-21 12:49 AM] polyzium#0481 Btw any updates on that mother of scum that is Lister? [06-Mar-21 12:49 AM] Frax314#7488 We got Doomkid in the know, which is good [06-Mar-21 12:49 AM] Frax314#7488 He will warn Doomworld likely [06-Mar-21 12:50 AM] polyzium#0481 Is he gonna make a video about it? [06-Mar-21 12:50 AM] Frax314#7488 We're also prepping the ZDF warning post. [06-Mar-21 12:50 AM] Frax314#7488 Possibly [06-Mar-21 12:50 AM] Frax314#7488 And hopefully [06-Mar-21 12:54 AM] polyzium#0481 Looking forward to that [06-Mar-21 12:54 AM] Raov#2531 same here [06-Mar-21 01:35 AM] shotfan#6872 Farhan - our lead spriter - let us know that Lothar wants him to work on the Schism "game". [06-Mar-21 01:36 AM] shotfan#6872 Farhan also said that he is going to prioritize LiTDoom. [06-Mar-21 01:37 AM] polyzium#0481 Who's Lothar? [06-Mar-21 01:37 AM] polyzium#0481 and what is Schism? [06-Mar-21 01:37 AM] shotfan#6872 Lothar is the lead developer of Schism. [06-Mar-21 01:38 AM] shotfan#6872 And Schism is a multiclass Brutal Doom rebalance mod. [06-Mar-21 01:38 AM] polyzium#0481 I see [06-Mar-21 01:39 AM] shotfan#6872 (Lord) Lothar had a viedo call with Romero, and got a "patronage" from John towards remaking Schism into a standalone game. [06-Mar-21 01:40 AM] shotfan#6872 I used to be a moderator on Schism server, until one incident involving Lister made it apparent that Lothar is ear-deep in Lister's scam operation. I abandoned the server in an act of protest. [06-Mar-21 01:43 AM] polyzium#0481 Fucking sons of bitches [06-Mar-21 01:44 AM] polyzium#0481 Did Lister reveal his work? [06-Mar-21 01:44 AM] shotfan#6872 What do you mean? [06-Mar-21 01:45 AM] shotfan#6872 He has been posting mapping showcase on the LiTDoom server, where I am a part of the staff. [06-Mar-21 01:46 AM] shotfan#6872 I had confronted him there, and Lister kept repeating his usual spiel of "the sourceport is going to be so good, everyone will comply to being ripped off". [06-Mar-21 01:50 AM] polyzium#0481 he got the reputation he deserved right? [06-Mar-21 01:52 AM] shotfan#6872 Nobody really cared. [06-Mar-21 03:10 AM] Raov#2531 so uh [06-Mar-21 03:10 AM] Raov#2531 about that mining idea {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/817549677699661884/unknown.png [06-Mar-21 03:10 AM] Raov#2531 it works [06-Mar-21 09:58 AM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 https://youtu.be/61Q6wWu5ziY {Embed} Bizonacci https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Q6wWu5ziY He bought? He bought? Donate: BTC: 17pq2BcAVbaeXQgpZJ9Brw7qGW5YGGQUT9 ETH/ERC-20: 0x7175CE963017307f6e57cE89CDb29a761E25aBFF XMR: 83vDTyehsLQZHGcpr8mSs3dJBV5Xo7Ht919VHz31X1QE6oXh8MZePgT3sQznr9RNtKEZgtkJ34syZ5NdGunpnL2MJJzXPT3 SKY: 25WZZZ6oFnXH4C7HNbJKEXumYGZreJ6rr51 https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/bQbcOjzy4eVtuS6kRcroSUHowa55C05YoCsP_pqJoDE/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/61Q6wWu5ziY/maxresdefault.jpg [06-Mar-21 09:58 AM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Dümp it. [06-Mar-21 10:53 AM] Frax314#7488 Classic [06-Mar-21 10:53 AM] Frax314#7488 Well fuck [06-Mar-21 11:56 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 suddenly wondering if Sarge Mark has his own spriting team for BF [06-Mar-21 11:56 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 and whether or not if he's gonna credit them after they become filthy rich and famous :notsorlag: [06-Mar-21 12:00 PM] Frax314#7488 Kek [06-Mar-21 06:51 PM] shotfan#6872 Farhan said: ``He created that server for the standalone schism thingy`` [06-Mar-21 06:55 PM] Frax314#7488 Is anyone able to peek in [06-Mar-21 06:55 PM] shotfan#6872 @YourpalZ3R0 Report [06-Mar-21 09:08 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I don't really see the point in being so curious. but he's basically making an overly ambitious doom clone but apparently pseudo open world and shit. With mixes of cultural mythos for enemies so something like blasphemous in how it involves religious myth and the likes. So hexen, blasphemous, doom, schism... It just sounds like one of these brain storming concepts I'd throw on you for games, shotfan. [06-Mar-21 09:09 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 It is overly ambitious and practically pointless and will probably remain in dev hell for decades at this point. [06-Mar-21 09:09 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 There's no concrete foundation yet aside from concept art drawn by Lothar. [06-Mar-21 09:55 PM] Frax314#7488 I see [06-Mar-21 09:55 PM] Frax314#7488 Many Doom modders try ambitious shit like this [06-Mar-21 10:32 PM] shotfan#6872 You know Zero, you are the only one from us who have seen anything about it. [06-Mar-21 10:33 PM] shotfan#6872 But you make it sound like a typical Lothar's case of stretching resources too thin. [06-Mar-21 10:33 PM] shotfan#6872 Thanks for relaying the info. [06-Mar-21 10:34 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 If I would make a bet, he's probably going to do some tiny progress in like two years and abandon it [06-Mar-21 10:34 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 The concept art seems promising but it is no more than concept art. [06-Mar-21 10:34 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I am not forming any opinion until I see actual foundations being built. [06-Mar-21 10:34 PM] Frax314#7488 He did stuff like that before? [06-Mar-21 10:34 PM] shotfan#6872 With Schism. [06-Mar-21 10:35 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Yes, the mod is currently facing feature bloat. [06-Mar-21 10:35 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 And they are planning two more classes...when they haven't even finished the main two. [06-Mar-21 10:35 PM] shotfan#6872 Right now, they are developing the fourth character class, Corvus/Heretic. [06-Mar-21 10:35 PM] Frax314#7488 Ha, the same problem Li$ter has... [06-Mar-21 10:35 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Lothar is an artist, with that comes great ambition. I can understand that. But, sometimes it's too much. [06-Mar-21 10:36 PM] shotfan#6872 And there are *two* more underway, the Assassin and the Technician. [06-Mar-21 10:36 PM] shotfan#6872 Plus all this work on the new enemies. [06-Mar-21 10:36 PM] shotfan#6872 And giving the Sorcerer even *more* stuff. [06-Mar-21 10:36 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 It would be fine if they finished paladin and mage. [06-Mar-21 10:36 PM] shotfan#6872 That would be already rivaling Hexen in content. [06-Mar-21 10:37 PM] shotfan#6872 But Lothar keeps getting inspired by new things and is eager to add them to the mod. [06-Mar-21 10:37 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 They're stretching out everything, like focusing on adding one liners and voice acting for example. A miscellaneous feature, I helped him in it and contacted a friend of mine to help him but it doesn't mean I agree with it. [06-Mar-21 10:37 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 He should focus on one goal then the next. [06-Mar-21 10:37 PM] shotfan#6872 The friend I am thinking about? [06-Mar-21 10:37 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Not adding so many fucking pointless features that take time. [06-Mar-21 10:37 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Grayveil? Yes. [06-Mar-21 10:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Ah no. [06-Mar-21 10:38 PM] shotfan#6872 I meant D3athStalker. [06-Mar-21 10:38 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Ah, nah. D3athstalker has a heavy Turkish accent. [06-Mar-21 10:38 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Grayveil, while slavic, mastered that edgy American accent. [06-Mar-21 10:38 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 So he is perfect for that sort of thing [06-Mar-21 10:38 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Let me forward a sample for example [06-Mar-21 10:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh, you mean *original* voice acting, not lines from the commerical games. [06-Mar-21 10:40 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Oh no, **_original_** voice acting. [06-Mar-21 10:40 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I even wrote some of the lines. [06-Mar-21 10:40 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 He's making some for each class. [06-Mar-21 10:41 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Schism is just going to turn into project brutality at some point. [06-Mar-21 10:41 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 discord hates m4a files I guess [06-Mar-21 10:43 PM] shotfan#6872 lol [07-Mar-21 02:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Gee, open world? [07-Mar-21 02:36 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 That's some grade A feature creep [07-Mar-21 02:48 AM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 You tell me. [07-Mar-21 12:22 PM] Frax314#7488 Strife: *Pathetic* [08-Mar-21 02:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 any updates [08-Mar-21 10:03 AM] Frax314#7488 Nope [08-Mar-21 03:06 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 F [08-Mar-21 06:31 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I'm pretty sure if there are updates they will tell you Bul, lol. [08-Mar-21 06:59 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~updated our journal~~ [08-Mar-21 07:00 PM] shotfan#6872 I have added the summary of the shitstorm that went down on the Schism server. [08-Mar-21 07:50 PM] Frax314#7488 Nice [09-Mar-21 06:06 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Virgin Lothar Lets some Russian dickwad vibe in his Discord exempt from all legal action because he was coaxed into his miracle sourceport scheme Refuses to listen to reason Good art does not make him exempt from being bigoted himself sucks Lister's tiny dick hard ***CHAD*** QCDE Discord mods Bans Jason Grant for going too far even if they agree upon certain beliefs Provides compelling arguments and valid points when faced with quarrel Can't be bigoted if you can't draw 😎 Has all the right to simp for DBT because he made **Quake 4: Lightning Fast Mod: Doom Edition** [09-Mar-21 09:52 AM] Frax314#7488 Ehhh [09-Mar-21 09:52 AM] Frax314#7488 I just talked with Bryina yesterday evening [09-Mar-21 09:52 AM] Frax314#7488 Banning Jason killed the mood for him [09-Mar-21 09:53 AM] Frax314#7488 He's considering resigning as a moderator because of the stricter rules [09-Mar-21 09:53 AM] Frax314#7488 I can't believe how popularity ruined it [09-Mar-21 09:55 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Popularity ruined which game? [09-Mar-21 09:56 AM] Frax314#7488 The QCDE Discord [09-Mar-21 09:57 AM] Frax314#7488 Bryina quitting's gonna kill it to an extent tbh [09-Mar-21 09:57 AM] Frax314#7488 As in, it won't be the same [09-Mar-21 09:57 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 I see [09-Mar-21 09:57 AM] Frax314#7488 I quit so I didn't have to spectate to this [09-Mar-21 09:58 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 It's been pretty stable from my perspective. [09-Mar-21 09:58 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Then again, I'm not exactly privy to higher-up mod info and whatnot. [09-Mar-21 09:58 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 I am a bit annoyed at the prioritisation of KET over finishing up Custom Champion Support for QCDE [09-Mar-21 09:59 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Kinda feels like DBT is sacrificing the long-term sustainment of the latter... [09-Mar-21 10:00 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 ... just so he can use the former flaunt how much better he can design Doom Eternal than Id. [09-Mar-21 10:01 AM] Frax314#7488 Bruh [09-Mar-21 10:02 AM] Frax314#7488 But yeah KET has been ruining everything since its announcement sadly [09-Mar-21 10:03 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Aye [09-Mar-21 10:05 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 He's starting to sound like Masterz in his KET showcase vids, IAH. [09-Mar-21 10:12 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 That probably doesn't mean anything out of context, so I guess I should've used a Doom modder as the example. [09-Mar-21 10:15 AM] Raov#2531 Can agree it doesn't [09-Mar-21 10:15 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Fair [09-Mar-21 10:16 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Masterz is basically the Graf of the Halo modding community. [09-Mar-21 10:17 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Except his claim to fame is a TC mod - SPV3 - instead of a Doom source port. [09-Mar-21 10:19 AM] Frax314#7488 I think DBT just feels really invaded by the PR [09-Mar-21 10:19 AM] Frax314#7488 He was always reserved, now he has to pump out videos or the ModDBlets start complaining [09-Mar-21 10:20 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Perhaps [09-Mar-21 10:21 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 I just find it annoying with how he justifies some of his design choices. [09-Mar-21 10:22 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 The Cacodemon ones being a notable sticking point. [09-Mar-21 10:30 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 He justifies not allowing Stickybombs to send Cacos in a GK state by arguing that it trivialises them as an enemy, ignoring several key aspects: [09-Mar-21 10:32 AM] Frax314#7488 Actually, I believe the reason is because of how Doom maps are made [09-Mar-21 10:32 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 With mass Cacos? [09-Mar-21 10:32 AM] Frax314#7488 They aren't made with Cacos being instakillable in mind [09-Mar-21 10:33 AM] Frax314#7488 It's kinda like if you made zombiemen as resilient as in 2016 in D4T [09-Mar-21 10:33 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 The only time he brought up maps was when he discussed his reasons for removing the Caco's lunge. [09-Mar-21 10:34 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 He argued that slaughtermaps tend to sic entire flocks of Cacos on the player, which would make them virtually unplayable with all these Cacos flinging themselves at the player [09-Mar-21 10:36 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Which, IMO, is all the more reason for allowing Stickybombs to GK-state Cacos, since that'd be the perfect counter for those large flocks. [09-Mar-21 10:36 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 As well as: [09-Mar-21 10:36 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 A. They're trivialised by design in Eternal, since they're a starter enemy meant to clearly communicate the weakpoint/weapon weakness system. B. They can still be lethal when incorporated into large Demon hordes C. Most of Doom's enemies (besides its bosses) are designed to be taken out in a short timespan when exploiting their tailored weaknesses, buffed enemies notwithstanding [09-Mar-21 10:36 AM] Frax314#7488 And this kind of problem is why Eternal shouldn't be ported to Classic in the first place except as an experiment like EoA [09-Mar-21 10:37 AM] Frax314#7488 KET was a mistake Embrace QCDE [09-Mar-21 10:39 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Amen to that [09-Mar-21 10:39 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Although [09-Mar-21 10:39 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 I will levy *one* complaint towards QCDE. [09-Mar-21 10:41 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 DBT's overly arbitrary criteria when it comes to accepting characters as official QCDE champs. [09-Mar-21 10:43 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Specifically, his decree that the champ needs to fit within QCDE's "gritty" aesthetic [09-Mar-21 10:43 AM] Frax314#7488 Subjective though [09-Mar-21 10:43 AM] Frax314#7488 Just like the decision itself... [09-Mar-21 10:43 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Perhaps [09-Mar-21 10:44 AM] Frax314#7488 While KET's unsustainability is deep-rooted [09-Mar-21 10:44 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 I just think that he forgets that you kinda have to forgo having a consistent aesthetic when you're making a crossover between multiple, often starkly-different properties. [09-Mar-21 10:45 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Prime example being the Champion sprites. [09-Mar-21 10:45 AM] Frax314#7488 Yeah now lemme check the ZDF post doc... [09-Mar-21 10:47 AM] Frax314#7488 @shotfan That's... pretty non-anonymous. You don't really need to be anonymous for this, if it's so transparent, heh. Well-written however. [09-Mar-21 10:47 AM] Frax314#7488 Also, the screenshot links if possible later [09-Mar-21 12:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 well that wouldn't make him a mod now would it :notsorlag: [09-Mar-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 honestly, time-wise it's a better investment [09-Mar-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Zandronum playerbase is near nonexistent especially where I'm in [09-Mar-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 while KET is more SP oriented [09-Mar-21 12:45 PM] Frax314#7488 But QCDE is PvE too [09-Mar-21 12:46 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 it *can* be [09-Mar-21 12:47 PM] Frax314#7488 It *is* [09-Mar-21 12:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but honestly people were probably more attracted to the PvP aspect [09-Mar-21 12:47 PM] Frax314#7488 Coop is unrefined but SP feels like Q1 [09-Mar-21 12:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I suppose [09-Mar-21 12:47 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but I mean Singleplayer wise do you really need more champions? [09-Mar-21 12:48 PM] Frax314#7488 y e s [09-Mar-21 12:48 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I was the opposite [09-Mar-21 12:48 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I play QCDE for the PvE [09-Mar-21 12:48 PM] shotfan#6872 A lot of discussion has been made, I see. [09-Mar-21 12:48 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 mostly QCDE related [09-Mar-21 12:48 PM] shotfan#6872 First off: Frax, I guess some people involved with Schism can detect me, but I do not give a shit. [09-Mar-21 12:48 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 and as such I will spam :notsorlag: for the unironic meme [09-Mar-21 12:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright [09-Mar-21 12:49 PM] shotfan#6872 I just claim anonymity for the time being. [09-Mar-21 12:49 PM] shotfan#6872 I can reveal myself all the same. [09-Mar-21 12:49 PM] Frax314#7488 Makes sense [09-Mar-21 12:49 PM] shotfan#6872 I also play QCDE for PvE. [09-Mar-21 12:49 PM] shotfan#6872 And yeeeeah, what character thematic consistency is there at all? [09-Mar-21 12:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I feel like one way or another this is going to devolve into a "why make KET when EOA Eternal exists????????????????????" [09-Mar-21 12:50 PM] shotfan#6872 When you have guys like... that eldritch blob of flesh, Duke and Lucienne together? [09-Mar-21 12:50 PM] Frax314#7488 lolno [09-Mar-21 12:50 PM] shotfan#6872 Or Caleb alongside Sam? Or Wang with Postalguy? [09-Mar-21 12:50 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 alright [09-Mar-21 12:50 PM] shotfan#6872 So lmao [09-Mar-21 12:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I dunno I'll still stand by that KET will probably be a better time investment [09-Mar-21 12:51 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean, the originals are all somewhat gritty/Quakey, but yea [09-Mar-21 12:51 PM] shotfan#6872 I am with Romero's Bitch that DBT design choices are lost on me. [09-Mar-21 12:52 PM] shotfan#6872 Specifically, the D4T streamlining update. [09-Mar-21 12:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Huh? The D4T update was good imo. [09-Mar-21 12:52 PM] shotfan#6872 I was not happy to see actual Doom 4 content stripped. [09-Mar-21 12:52 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not care about his notion of balance if he does not include everything from there. [09-Mar-21 12:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I was :notsorlag: [09-Mar-21 12:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I don't like all the MP weapons [09-Mar-21 12:52 PM] shotfan#6872 And he had basically no argument. [09-Mar-21 12:53 PM] Frax314#7488 The only problem is that there is no mod with all the MP weapons except less than excellent ones [09-Mar-21 12:53 PM] shotfan#6872 *You* did not. [09-Mar-21 12:53 PM] shotfan#6872 Whereas there were people that wanted all the toys. [09-Mar-21 12:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 if he had simply enabled a toggle which enabled PvE only guns, PvP only guns, or PvP + PvE guns then I would've had no bloody problem [09-Mar-21 12:53 PM] shotfan#6872 Yes Frax, so no thanks to DBT. [09-Mar-21 12:53 PM] shotfan#6872 Exactly Bulalo. [09-Mar-21 12:53 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I was annoyed at his justification for the Microwave Beam. [09-Mar-21 12:53 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Not specifically that it could only work on GZDoom when he was making a mod for Zandronum. [09-Mar-21 12:53 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I wasn't :notsorlag: [09-Mar-21 12:54 PM] shotfan#6872 But he threw out the baby with all the bathwater. [09-Mar-21 12:54 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 But rather comments like "Hugo Martin didn't pick it up first when he played his stream" [09-Mar-21 12:54 PM] shotfan#6872 Because selective arsenal toggles are so hard to do, right? [09-Mar-21 12:54 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 even the pro Doom Eternal players admit the Microwave Beam sucked and was trash compared to other more superior options [09-Mar-21 12:54 PM] Frax314#7488 They are though, but they are necessary in such cases sadly [09-Mar-21 12:55 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hell I'd even say Mobile Turret's better, and Mobile Turret turns your Chaingun bullets into Nerf darts [09-Mar-21 12:55 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 What pro players think != what developers think [09-Mar-21 12:55 PM] shotfan#6872 The only D4 demake mod that probably has everything is D4D, BUT Cooke made it into such a damn mess and is not true anymore to the original game. [09-Mar-21 12:55 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 You can't just draw assumptions based on what a dev does in a livestream. [09-Mar-21 12:55 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 well, the devs did say it depended on playstyle [09-Mar-21 12:55 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 we could even say DBT took this to the extreme and modded in his ideal playstyle [09-Mar-21 12:56 PM] shotfan#6872 ``even the pro Doom Eternal players admit the Microwave Beam sucked and was trash compared to other more superior options`` [09-Mar-21 12:56 PM] shotfan#6872 no fucking way [09-Mar-21 12:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yeah... [09-Mar-21 12:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 just PB Rocket [09-Mar-21 12:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 or Arb/Dblade spam [09-Mar-21 12:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 or Lock-On [09-Mar-21 12:56 PM] shotfan#6872 That is what you get for mindlessly ripping off Serious Sam 3's Sirian Gauntlet. [09-Mar-21 12:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 or anything else really [09-Mar-21 12:56 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 even the *fucking Auto Shotgun* is better [09-Mar-21 12:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 because at least it *dealt damage* [09-Mar-21 12:57 PM] shotfan#6872 And turns out, even THAT got trashed by the time the sequel came out, figures. [09-Mar-21 12:57 PM] shotfan#6872 I have been talking since the beginning that that mod should have been just a full-fledged lightning gun, not some gimped half-measures. [09-Mar-21 12:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 all this thing does with its sUpER AdVAncED TeChnIqUe is stun someone in place for about a second, when you could've simply deleted him out of existence [09-Mar-21 12:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 although honestly it is fun catching off Whiplashes with it [09-Mar-21 12:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 for shits and giggles [09-Mar-21 12:58 PM] shotfan#6872 That, AND the Doom 4's PR mods had been prefectly fine, just like the ones for RL which were retained for Doom 5. [09-Mar-21 12:58 PM] shotfan#6872 And yeah duh [09-Mar-21 12:59 PM] shotfan#6872 ASG is ASG [09-Mar-21 12:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Self-explanatory. [09-Mar-21 12:59 PM] Frax314#7488 Actually the stun bomb is obsolete to the Ice Grenade [09-Mar-21 12:59 PM] Frax314#7488 So it had to be reworked regardless [09-Mar-21 12:59 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 honestly with the new tech made with the new quickswitching options, any stun option is obsolete [09-Mar-21 01:00 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean, everything is obsolete if you can just Ballista good enough, that gun is such an all rounder... [09-Mar-21 01:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 when some Under the Mayo simp comes up and tells people how epic of a weapon the Microwave Beam is, the people over at the Battlemode Discord will destroy them with facts and logic [09-Mar-21 01:00 PM] Raov#2531 *pretends to have context* [09-Mar-21 01:00 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh yeah Under the Mayo [09-Mar-21 01:00 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Nobody needs to be destroyed [09-Mar-21 01:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 quickswitch combos are the most optimal method in taking out anything [09-Mar-21 01:00 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah Frax but you know [09-Mar-21 01:01 PM] shotfan#6872 The Stun Bomb was there first. [09-Mar-21 01:01 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 That's just a very hostile way of teaching people [09-Mar-21 01:01 PM] Frax314#7488 That guy said DMC5 was easier and less skillful than DE [09-Mar-21 01:01 PM] Frax314#7488 Can't take him seriously [09-Mar-21 01:01 PM] shotfan#6872 HAHAHAHAHA [09-Mar-21 01:01 PM] shotfan#6872 HAHAHAHAHAH [09-Mar-21 01:01 PM] shotfan#6872 My sides [09-Mar-21 01:01 PM] shotfan#6872 Anything else? [09-Mar-21 01:02 PM] Frax314#7488 Nah he just plays a lot of DE and says hot takes [09-Mar-21 01:02 PM] shotfan#6872 Ignored [09-Mar-21 01:02 PM] shotfan#6872 By the way [09-Mar-21 01:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 clearly he's never fought Dante as Vergil [09-Mar-21 01:02 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 They turned the Stun Bomb into the Ice Bomb [09-Mar-21 01:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 bitch has an instant god mode button too [09-Mar-21 01:02 PM] Frax314#7488 Damn right, but don't spoil shotfan, he has not played the game yet D: [09-Mar-21 01:02 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Which makes sense IMO [09-Mar-21 01:02 PM] shotfan#6872 If id wanted a third shoulder cannon mode, they could have included the Static Cannon fire. [09-Mar-21 01:03 PM] shotfan#6872 But no, do some meaningless feature shuffling and damage one of the base weapons in the process, lmao [09-Mar-21 01:03 PM] Frax314#7488 Actually, LG altfire for Plasma would've been best I believe {Reactions} 👍 [09-Mar-21 01:03 PM] Frax314#7488 And I mean actual LG [09-Mar-21 01:03 PM] shotfan#6872 Exactly what I mean. [09-Mar-21 01:03 PM] Frax314#7488 Ice/Stun Bomb is better as a grenade tbh [09-Mar-21 01:03 PM] Frax314#7488 For teh multitasking [09-Mar-21 01:04 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah I have not played DMC5 yet, but I am familiar enough with the series that I know that claiming that Doom has more advanced combat than it is fucking bollocks. [09-Mar-21 01:05 PM] shotfan#6872 nuDoom combat is trying, yes, but still in its infancy compared to the actual stylish slashers. [09-Mar-21 01:06 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I'd say Doom has some *parallels* to the likes of DMC [09-Mar-21 01:06 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Both have their difficulties in different contexts [09-Mar-21 01:07 PM] Frax314#7488 There is a clear error in UtM's statements. He very clearly used UV as the DE standard, but you should compare it with Son of Sparda instead [09-Mar-21 01:07 PM] Frax314#7488 And Son of Sparda is definitely harder than DE UV. [09-Mar-21 01:07 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 In DMC and whatnot, your goal is to eliminate enemies in as flashy a manner as possible, hence you rack up combos with mostly weak attacks and the occasional strong attack without outright killing given enemies. [09-Mar-21 01:08 PM] Frax314#7488 And DMD is d e f i n i t e l y harder than Nightmare [09-Mar-21 01:09 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, Ultraviolence = Son of Sparda = hard difficulty equivalent. [09-Mar-21 01:09 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 In Doom Eternal, your goal is to eliminate enemies as *efficiently* as possible, exploiting your own movement capabilites, enemy vulnerabilities and your arsenal's capabilities to mow them down as quickly and brutally as possible. [09-Mar-21 01:09 PM] Frax314#7488 I ate DE's final level on Nightmare no problem, but with a maxed out Vergil even the first levels of DMD are hell. [09-Mar-21 01:09 PM] shotfan#6872 Nightmare is the closest to Dante Must Die. [09-Mar-21 01:10 PM] Frax314#7488 They are just different ways to add difficulty, in the end, the challenge is equivalent [09-Mar-21 01:10 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Aye [09-Mar-21 01:10 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I'm more speaking from the design goals of the game. [09-Mar-21 01:11 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Dante would criticise the Doom Slayer for not putting some creative flair into his demon extermination [09-Mar-21 01:11 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Doom Slayer (if he could talk) would scold Dante for doing a demon hunter's equivalent of playing with his food. [09-Mar-21 01:11 PM] Frax314#7488 You can be efficient in DMC too, it's just freeform in its fundamentals. While in DE the fundamentals are strict, but you can be stylish with the tools you have. [09-Mar-21 01:12 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Dante: "Hey tough guy! Why dontcha' put some flare into your killin' huh?" Doomguy: *proceeds to annihilate an entire Mancubus within seconds* Dante: "Alright fair enough" [09-Mar-21 01:12 PM] Frax314#7488 A smooth disarm and immediate kill of an Arachnotron is as stylish as a combo in DMC in my book, just less "original" because it does not use FG components. [09-Mar-21 01:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Aaaand... easier. [09-Mar-21 01:13 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Aye [09-Mar-21 01:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 PB Rocketting a Mancubus within seconds would earn you the rank of ***SADISTIC SEARING SLAYER!*** [09-Mar-21 01:18 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Doomed Cruel Bloodthirsty ANNIHILATOR SLAUGHTERER SKULL SPLITTER [09-Mar-21 01:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Ehem [09-Mar-21 01:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Doomslayer: [double taps with SSG double blast] Dante: "Watch this." [Gun Stinger -> Point Blank] Doomslayer: [love stare] [09-Mar-21 01:22 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 *wooow!* [09-Mar-21 01:23 PM] shotfan#6872 ``PB Rocketting`` you mean the triple volley? [09-Mar-21 01:23 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Precision Bolt + Rocket [09-Mar-21 01:24 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 "Triple Volley" would be Lock-On Burst [09-Mar-21 01:24 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 On a slightly different note, I'm glad that I have found a kindred mind in shotfan with regards to DBTs questionable design decisions. [09-Mar-21 01:24 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 One of the thing that's become a pet peeve for me over time was his insistence on randomised progression systems [09-Mar-21 01:26 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I'd say its only *mildly* tolerable in QCDE, since its supposed to riff on QC's lootbox system [09-Mar-21 01:26 PM] Raov#2531 christ yall active [09-Mar-21 01:26 PM] Raov#2531 btw any updates? [09-Mar-21 01:27 PM] shotfan#6872 No. [09-Mar-21 01:27 PM] Raov#2531 aight [09-Mar-21 01:27 PM] shotfan#6872 Sorry for being busy with discussing Doom mods Raov, lol [09-Mar-21 01:27 PM] Raov#2531 nah its fine [09-Mar-21 01:27 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 But even then, I kinda wished there were checks in place to prevent shit like being rewarded with unnecessary full ammo/health or weapon/upgrade duplicates. [09-Mar-21 01:27 PM] shotfan#6872 lol [09-Mar-21 01:27 PM] Raov#2531 theres always an 8 hour mute option lol [09-Mar-21 01:28 PM] shotfan#6872 I mean, QCDE is fine for me. [09-Mar-21 01:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Me, a skirmish rogue player: *I'll pretend I didn't see that.* [09-Mar-21 01:28 PM] shotfan#6872 I still play it occasionally. [09-Mar-21 01:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Only thing I have aganist that system is how rare the upgrades are [09-Mar-21 01:29 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Same [09-Mar-21 01:29 PM] shotfan#6872 I could criticize some of the upgrade for being unimaginative, but hey [09-Mar-21 01:29 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I've gone full Megawads without getting a single Rocket Launcher upgrade. [09-Mar-21 01:29 PM] shotfan#6872 There are so many classes, plus the modular monsterpack system, that I hardly complain [09-Mar-21 01:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Some of the upgrades *are* glorious though [09-Mar-21 01:30 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Either that, or 50 Burning bloody Gauntlets. [09-Mar-21 01:30 PM] shotfan#6872 lmao [09-Mar-21 01:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Mood [09-Mar-21 01:30 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~can we get a saw launcher already~~ [09-Mar-21 01:30 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~oh wait that is not SS4~~ [09-Mar-21 01:30 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 We kinda have that with Painkiller [09-Mar-21 01:31 PM] shotfan#6872 Wait, he has his own weapons? [09-Mar-21 01:31 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Yeah [09-Mar-21 01:31 PM] shotfan#6872 WHAT [09-Mar-21 01:31 PM] shotfan#6872 How many? [09-Mar-21 01:31 PM] Frax314#7488 1 [09-Mar-21 01:31 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 One of his passives replaces the Gauntlet with the eponymous Painkiller weapon [09-Mar-21 01:31 PM] Frax314#7488 His signature weapon replacing the Gauntlet [09-Mar-21 01:31 PM] shotfan#6872 D'oh [09-Mar-21 01:31 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Basically functions the same as the Gauntlet, but with the added ability to fire a projectile. [09-Mar-21 01:32 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~why Sam does not have the Minigun in the place of the Machinegun then~~ [09-Mar-21 01:32 PM] Frax314#7488 Because ammo [09-Mar-21 01:32 PM] shotfan#6872 Silly [09-Mar-21 01:32 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And its his Active [09-Mar-21 01:32 PM] Frax314#7488 It would be broken as fuck [09-Mar-21 01:32 PM] Frax314#7488 To use normal bullets for that [09-Mar-21 01:32 PM] shotfan#6872 Sam *always* has ammo lmao [09-Mar-21 01:32 PM] Frax314#7488 e x a c t l y [09-Mar-21 01:32 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I still remember the Champ concept I made for the TF2 Soldier [09-Mar-21 01:33 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, that was not an imaginative active for Sam either... but a welcome one. [09-Mar-21 01:33 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 His two passives were focused on the Rocket Launcher [09-Mar-21 01:33 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~Serious Bomb active wen~~ [09-Mar-21 01:33 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Specifically, starting with a Rocket Launcher (with no ammo in MP, ofc) [09-Mar-21 01:33 PM] shotfan#6872 (I do not care if OP) [09-Mar-21 01:34 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And giving said Rocket Launcher properties of the Air Strike. [09-Mar-21 01:34 PM] shotfan#6872 Hmmm? [09-Mar-21 01:35 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Air_Strike {Embed} https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Air_Strike Air Strike https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/7VpdBxKhV3HoslHDrN-cfXpLjLez71l8NQou5AMLwlw/http/wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/3/3f/Reddit_thumbnail.png [09-Mar-21 01:36 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 TLDR: Basically apply the *Increased attack speed and smaller blast radius while blast jumping* stat from the Air Strike to the QCDE RL when the Soldier is using it. [09-Mar-21 01:38 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Though the decreases to the RL's base damage and blast radius couldn't hurt either. [09-Mar-21 01:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Hmm [09-Mar-21 01:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Is that custom character system for QCDE ready? [09-Mar-21 01:44 PM] Frax314#7488 Not yet [09-Mar-21 01:44 PM] Frax314#7488 That's why we're really aganist KET [09-Mar-21 01:45 PM] shotfan#6872 Makes sense. [09-Mar-21 01:45 PM] shotfan#6872 Look at Doom 4. [09-Mar-21 01:46 PM] shotfan#6872 Snapmap might have been limited, but it did last for those few years until Doom 5. [09-Mar-21 01:46 PM] shotfan#6872 An really, how complex this feature would be? [09-Mar-21 01:47 PM] Frax314#7488 A lot. [09-Mar-21 01:47 PM] Frax314#7488 A. LOT. [09-Mar-21 01:47 PM] Frax314#7488 That's why they should focus on it. [09-Mar-21 01:47 PM] shotfan#6872 In the worst case scenario, just release documentation for how they made the base Champions themselves. [09-Mar-21 01:47 PM] Frax314#7488 It is not so simple [09-Mar-21 01:47 PM] shotfan#6872 How so? [09-Mar-21 01:47 PM] Frax314#7488 The mod is hyper-interwoven [09-Mar-21 01:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Creating a new champion without any measures put in so that they can abide to certain checks will be incompatible with... most of the mod itself [09-Mar-21 01:50 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I never knew why DBT was so insistent on KET over the custom champs. [09-Mar-21 01:52 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Was he really *that* tilted over the stuff he didn't like in DE that he just *had* to go out of his way to prove himself a better game designer than Hugo Martin and the rest of Id? [09-Mar-21 01:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Nah I think he was just burned over QCDE [09-Mar-21 01:52 PM] shotfan#6872 Well [09-Mar-21 01:52 PM] shotfan#6872 He *is* welcome to try. [09-Mar-21 01:53 PM] shotfan#6872 But, it goes without saying that custom Champions would be a seminal feature. [09-Mar-21 01:53 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Aye [09-Mar-21 01:53 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~unlike certain someone that tries to pioneer paid sourceports with restricted mod compatibility~~ [09-Mar-21 01:54 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 What Smash Bros modding *wished* it could be like [09-Mar-21 01:54 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 We can finally have that one dude's inflation furry OC as a fully-fledged champ [09-Mar-21 01:54 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 :p [09-Mar-21 01:54 PM] Frax314#7488 *PTSD* [09-Mar-21 01:55 PM] Frax314#7488 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467410190065467402/803573655103733770/Screenshot_20210126-1134122.png {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467410190065467402/803573655103733770/Screenshot_20210126-1134122.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/467410190065467402/803573655103733770/Screenshot_20210126-1134122.png [09-Mar-21 01:55 PM] Frax314#7488 The only fucking reason I would not want custom champs [09-Mar-21 01:55 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Yup [09-Mar-21 01:56 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 That and the weeb garbage [09-Mar-21 01:56 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean, I wouldn't mind Guts in QCDE-- [09-Mar-21 01:56 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Aye, that and DIO [09-Mar-21 01:57 PM] shotfan#6872 @YourpalZ3R0 [09-Mar-21 01:57 PM] shotfan#6872 Not only you, I wager. [09-Mar-21 01:57 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I was thinking more along the lines of the custom champs page getting flooded with Genshin Impact dregs [09-Mar-21 01:58 PM] shotfan#6872 And that *thing*... [09-Mar-21 01:58 PM] shotfan#6872 No further comment. [09-Mar-21 02:00 PM] Frax314#7488 Implying gacha players can mod [09-Mar-21 02:03 PM] shotfan#6872 >implying gacha "players" play anything as opposed to gluing their eyes to the smartphones while crossing a street [09-Mar-21 02:04 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 "Genshin Impact? More like Gayshit Incest" [09-Mar-21 02:05 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if someone made a GI character into a champion [09-Mar-21 02:05 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Purely as a shitpost, at that [09-Mar-21 02:06 PM] Frax314#7488 That's too generous a description for them. They clearly play on Bluestacks for days on end on their g a m e r PC [09-Mar-21 02:07 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 PC? [09-Mar-21 02:08 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 More like an iphone on a small stand with a Bluetooth keyboard and a mouse plugged into the charging port. [09-Mar-21 02:09 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 With the tinny speakers on full blast [09-Mar-21 02:12 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 But yeah. [09-Mar-21 02:13 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but I play on PC... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/818803576460541962/why_not_2.png [09-Mar-21 02:13 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 https://tenor.com/view/shame-pity-reload-shotgun-gif-5160379 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/shame-pity-reload-shotgun-gif-5160379 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Xscx35DkJqaO6isg4gAlw3_G0dvDjyXXAkeei3EWh-o/https/media.tenor.co/images/15ce5cf48b4d53dad3cb745e66b8a9a9/raw [09-Mar-21 02:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 fuck it it's better than playing a sinking fucking game genre [09-Mar-21 02:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 AFPS talk shit about gacha gamers and tacticool shoot fans, but at least their game genres aren't sinking ships :notsorlag: [09-Mar-21 02:33 PM] shotfan#6872 [loadsshotgunwithmaliciousintent.jpg] [09-Mar-21 02:36 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I REQUIREEE {Reactions} 😆 [09-Mar-21 02:37 PM] Frax314#7488 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aES3XaSD9wc {Embed} Spookster6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aES3XaSD9wc Berserk guts’ theme but it’s the best part I own nothing https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/J0nBBUktLEshMLGVaqv4zGP5QTbpgc_p1sT__uc2NOY/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/aES3XaSD9wc/sddefault.jpg [09-Mar-21 02:37 PM] Raov#2531 a [09-Mar-21 02:38 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~inb4 his active is just one swipe with the Dragon Slayer and not the Gauntlet replacement~~ [09-Mar-21 02:39 PM] Frax314#7488 Same brain I was just thinking about it [09-Mar-21 02:39 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 And for his special he SCREAMS GRIFFIIIITH [09-Mar-21 02:39 PM] shotfan#6872 Everyone flees. [09-Mar-21 02:39 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 It's like a war cry from diablo 2 [09-Mar-21 04:00 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I'm gonna be honest with you guys, I feel incompatible with the Quake community [09-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 They're all "AFPS this AFPS that" but it feels unfullfilling trying to "git gud" at it [09-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Not only that but I play anime trash so it's already obvious that I can't side with the AFPS community [09-Mar-21 04:05 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 What's new? AFPS communities have always been full of boomers and tryhards. Personally if you want to roll around just play for fun and ignore the whole git gud trash. [09-Mar-21 04:05 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 ~~anime first person shooter community~~ [09-Mar-21 04:38 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 It's hard to enjoy the game when 80% of the match involves you dying and 20% involves running around for resources and shit [09-Mar-21 06:41 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 hmm I was mostly talking about q3, I think you mean QCDE right [09-Mar-21 06:49 PM] Frax314#7488 He does [09-Mar-21 07:02 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 yeah Q3 is different [09-Mar-21 07:02 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 it still has tryhards but there are closed tight communities like ours @shotfan where we just dual for fun [09-Mar-21 07:11 PM] shotfan#6872 *Duel [10-Mar-21 01:00 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Q3, QC, QL... not QCDE tho [10-Mar-21 01:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I will gladly play QCDE till the day I become a skeleton [10-Mar-21 01:01 AM] Frax314#7488 Why stop playing QCDE when you become a skeleton [10-Mar-21 01:04 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Of course [10-Mar-21 01:04 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Because now I'm Bones Quake 3 [11-Mar-21 01:59 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 any new developments [11-Mar-21 02:00 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Just a hint; developments will be posted here when they develop [11-Mar-21 02:00 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 A watched kettle never boils. [14-Mar-21 10:00 PM] Frax314#7488 (pinned) @everyone https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/120286-the-legality-of-charging-money-for-a-source-port/ [14-Mar-21 10:00 PM] Frax314#7488 READ PLEASE [14-Mar-21 10:02 PM] Frax314#7488 Doomkid went out with it, let's fucking gooo [14-Mar-21 10:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Now we only ought to finish the ZDF article and we are set [15-Mar-21 01:04 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Gee, the comments are flaming with legal discussion [15-Mar-21 01:06 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Surprised Doomkid didn't bring up either the rumored DRM or the creator's supposed involvement with Pa1nkiller and SgtMark [15-Mar-21 01:09 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Ooh, apparently Marisa is already knowledgeable of the info [15-Mar-21 01:14 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 since this is now public information, is it fine if I share this in places like the QCDE and HDest Discord [15-Mar-21 01:32 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Ok thanks [15-Mar-21 01:57 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 the saying is true once you are taken to Brasil you are never coming back [15-Mar-21 10:14 AM] Frax314#7488 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/820917797370593290/20210315_081400.jpg [15-Mar-21 10:14 AM] Frax314#7488 LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO [15-Mar-21 10:14 AM] Frax314#7488 NOT EVEN HE TOOK THE BAIT, LOTHAR IS DUMBOOOO [15-Mar-21 10:15 AM] Frax314#7488 Pinned a message. [15-Mar-21 10:30 AM] Frax314#7488 Quick upload for the last part of the warning post {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/820921966768816138/20210315_083026.jpg [15-Mar-21 10:32 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 1. ***HAHA WHAT A FARCE*** 2. Wasn't he banned on there? [15-Mar-21 10:34 AM] Frax314#7488 Part 3 of the ZDF warning post done. [15-Mar-21 10:34 AM] Frax314#7488 He got banned now I believe. [15-Mar-21 10:34 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *huh?* [15-Mar-21 10:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 what? [15-Mar-21 10:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wait so how did he respond to that?? [15-Mar-21 10:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 did he get unbanned or... [15-Mar-21 10:35 AM] Frax314#7488 Li$ter was banned by Mark's mods and tried to appeal to Mark [15-Mar-21 10:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ohhh wait no I meant Mark [15-Mar-21 10:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wasn't Mark banned on DW [15-Mar-21 10:35 AM] Frax314#7488 But Mark had an OOC surge of basedness and did not let him in again [15-Mar-21 10:35 AM] Frax314#7488 Only on ZDF [15-Mar-21 10:36 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ah [15-Mar-21 10:36 AM] Frax314#7488 Give Doomkid a big thanks from us [15-Mar-21 10:36 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 surprised the dude who made the most anti-purist mod ever conceived on this planet isn't banned on the most purist place in the Doom community [15-Mar-21 10:36 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I shall [15-Mar-21 10:37 AM] Frax314#7488 He made us discover the Brutal Doom alliance was bollocks after all [15-Mar-21 10:37 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 tbf I do hear from some BD fans he's lightened up on his bullshit [15-Mar-21 10:38 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wouldn't hold my breath but the thought's there [15-Mar-21 10:38 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I've heard he does take responsibility playing Brutal Nanny to his community recently [15-Mar-21 10:38 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so this *probably* wasn't out of chracter [15-Mar-21 10:40 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wait a second [15-Mar-21 10:40 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 where did you get that message of Mark saying that [15-Mar-21 10:40 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 it's not in the thread [15-Mar-21 10:41 AM] Frax314#7488 He had tbh back when I was in the BD Discord, he's got a different vocabulary and speech pattern in general, changed from what he was before. But I don't forget that easily what one did [15-Mar-21 10:41 AM] Frax314#7488 Page 2 [15-Mar-21 10:41 AM] Frax314#7488 Then scroll down a bit, there's two [15-Mar-21 10:41 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 found it [15-Mar-21 10:42 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 this ketmar guy seems to know Lister [15-Mar-21 10:42 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 knew *exactly* who were they talking about after bringing it up [15-Mar-21 10:42 AM] Frax314#7488 There's also another confirming he IS talking about Li$ter (usage of "GayZet") [15-Mar-21 10:42 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 anyways, since this is now effectively public info, can I now share the thread to the QCDE and HDest Discord [15-Mar-21 10:42 AM] Frax314#7488 Gtg [15-Mar-21 10:42 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 uh [15-Mar-21 10:43 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 that a yes or a no [15-Mar-21 10:43 AM] Fluffy#5319 hey [15-Mar-21 10:43 AM] Fluffy#5319 Looks like I missed something lol [15-Mar-21 10:44 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 recent developments 1. Doomkid converged our current info to the Doomworld Forums 2. SgtMark is not at all siding with Lister; mods actually banned him from the BD Discord [15-Mar-21 10:45 AM] Fluffy#5319 kek [15-Mar-21 10:45 AM] Frax314#7488 Yes you can [15-Mar-21 10:45 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 YAY [15-Mar-21 10:45 AM] Frax314#7488 Send it around I mean [15-Mar-21 10:56 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 crap [15-Mar-21 10:56 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 EOA Discord still has cronies spying on it [15-Mar-21 10:56 AM] Frax314#7488 Which are? I'll inform Krakken later [15-Mar-21 10:57 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 not sure [15-Mar-21 10:57 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he just told me there were still spies in there [15-Mar-21 11:04 AM] Frax314#7488 Who he? [15-Mar-21 11:05 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 Krakken? [15-Mar-21 11:06 AM] Frax314#7488 Also y'all, this is your last day to edit and possibly add info to the ZDF post, we're gonna launch it today/tomorrow morning. @shotfan, you still gotta add the screenshot proof. [15-Mar-21 11:07 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 should I tell the HDest Discord that you guys plan to post this warning message [15-Mar-21 11:09 AM] Frax314#7488 Nah [15-Mar-21 11:09 AM] Frax314#7488 When it'll be out it'll be out [15-Mar-21 11:09 AM] Frax314#7488 We gotta ride Doomkid's tide [15-Mar-21 11:10 AM] KENSUKE21#1071 (pinned) ``We gotta ride Doomkid`` Out of context quote [15-Mar-21 11:10 AM] Raov#2531 Pinned a message. [15-Mar-21 11:17 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Oh yeah [15-Mar-21 11:17 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 What about Delta Touch? Why isn't *that* morally wrong? [15-Mar-21 11:19 AM] Frax314#7488 B r u h [15-Mar-21 11:19 AM] Frax314#7488 The thing sold is a wrapper [15-Mar-21 11:19 AM] Frax314#7488 Not the port itseld [15-Mar-21 11:19 AM] Frax314#7488 And that is not based on the ports themselves [15-Mar-21 11:21 AM] Frax314#7488 I EVEN FUCKING TOLD Li$ter about that [15-Mar-21 11:21 AM] Frax314#7488 Seems he is as hypocritical as ever [15-Mar-21 11:24 AM] Frax314#7488 Tbf our best bet rn is for it to in fact be a full on scam [15-Mar-21 11:24 AM] Frax314#7488 Instead of a real thing [15-Mar-21 11:24 AM] Frax314#7488 But sadly I am inclined to think it is real even if to an extent [15-Mar-21 11:26 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Well so far [15-Mar-21 11:30 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Notable Doom modders/community members who are aware of this sourceport atm are Likely the entirety of the Complexity, PB, BD, and CF dev teams Some members of the BD Schism team like Lorthar QCDE Devs and QCDE Discord mods + server regulars (like me ;) ) SgtMark - confirmed to not be working with Lister Doomkid - converged all the info we have to him in the first place Marisa - discussed about it under Doomkid's post DoomKrakken - firsthand witness to the sheer stupidity of these Russian dicknipses Fat Tony - heard it from DoomKrakken if i recall [15-Mar-21 11:30 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Oh yeah and some HDest Discord regulars [15-Mar-21 12:05 PM] Frax314#7488 Iirc Marisa was attacked somehow by Li$ter's gang, but I don't know how. [15-Mar-21 12:06 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Ssg+Ballista combo? [15-Mar-21 12:06 PM] Frax314#7488 Transphobically, I assume-- WHEEZE [15-Mar-21 02:00 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Seems like I missed quite some big progress. [15-Mar-21 02:00 PM] Frax314#7488 Indeed. Give a good read. [15-Mar-21 02:14 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I mean considering Lister's overall aura I'd assume it was actual transphobia and not just "I'm straight lmao" [15-Mar-21 02:16 PM] Frax314#7488 wdym, I said exactly he attacked Marisa on transphobic grounds as well as his petty modding rivalry [15-Mar-21 02:37 PM] shotfan#6872 See [15-Mar-21 02:38 PM] shotfan#6872 Even the brazilian brutalist is against the scam [15-Mar-21 02:38 PM] shotfan#6872 So for the love of god, I again repeat: do not slander anyone by accusing collusion with Lister unless you have actual proof. [15-Mar-21 02:39 PM] shotfan#6872 Because now we have evidence that Lister and Lothar were talking out of their asses. [15-Mar-21 02:39 PM] shotfan#6872 (And Lother seems even more gullible now) [15-Mar-21 02:40 PM] shotfan#6872 I will add the screenshots in the evening. [15-Mar-21 02:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Thx [15-Mar-21 02:55 PM] Frax314#7488 You know you're in the wrong when both Marisa and Mark on the same fucking thread tell you suck [15-Mar-21 03:25 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 well you said "WHEEZE" afterwards so I assumed that you assume it was the really tame not really transphobic type of attack [15-Mar-21 03:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Nah it was a response to Kensuke's joke [15-Mar-21 03:27 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh ok [15-Mar-21 03:27 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 lmao [15-Mar-21 03:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but why would they use SSG Ballista [15-Mar-21 03:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 when they don't give two shits about NuDoom [15-Mar-21 03:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Actually he does play it... in the weirdest way imaginable. Saw him on stream once. [15-Mar-21 03:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 uh [15-Mar-21 03:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 does he use microwave beam [15-Mar-21 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Transphobia is a serious issue, even if you do not agree with certain aspects of LGBT culture you should not outwardly attack anyone trans, especially if using it for secondary and petty purposes https://th.bing.com/th/id/R29cd9c49954ae5c259a1d8ee95c69a72?rik=af3dt92uv1u48Q&riu=http%3a%2f%2fi0.kym-cdn.com%2fentries%2ficons%2ffacebook%2f000%2f026%2f152%2fgigachad.jpg&ehk=pQMUQPnZ6fdKA2KCn4Jw9JFILHSCVkyBpLpGuRPIAd8%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw {Embed} https://th.bing.com/th/id/R29cd9c49954ae5c259a1d8ee95c69a72?rik=af3dt92uv1u48Q&riu=http%3a%2f%2fi0.kym-cdn.com%2fentries%2ficons%2ffacebook%2f000%2f026%2f152%2fgigachad.jpg&ehk=pQMUQPnZ6fdKA2KCn4Jw9JFILHSCVkyBpLpGuRPIAd8%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/XdmODAoJC_jTZcGlaG65LgQcdJErR4mlF0UUtgh4VHY/%3Frik%3Daf3dt92uv1u48Q%26riu%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fi0.kym-cdn.com%252fentries%252ficons%252ffacebook%252f000%252f026%252f152%252fgigachad.jpg%26ehk%3DpQMUQPnZ6fdKA2KCn4Jw9JFILHSCVkyBpLpGuRPIAd8%253d%26risl%3D%26pid%3DImgRaw/https/th.bing.com/th/id/R29cd9c49954ae5c259a1d8ee95c69a72 [15-Mar-21 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 He plays it tactically [15-Mar-21 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 He hides in corners [15-Mar-21 03:30 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 https://tenor.com/view/pain-captain-hammer-doctor-horrible-im-in-pain-reaction-gif-4472085 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/pain-captain-hammer-doctor-horrible-im-in-pain-reaction-gif-4472085 Captain Hammer - Pain https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/0B2m34Omx2-7RBNm6euuzNHboZ2FrsJNlB-DQXgvKcI/https/media.tenor.co/images/de6dc5782891843f5f9335e289c27016/raw [15-Mar-21 03:30 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wait [15-Mar-21 03:30 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I was supposed to use that skeleton gif [15-Mar-21 03:30 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but that works too [15-Mar-21 03:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Like he's playing his own mod, or HDest [15-Mar-21 03:31 PM] Frax314#7488 *And that's horrible* [15-Mar-21 03:31 PM] shotfan#6872 oh god no that retarded "maser" [15-Mar-21 03:32 PM] shotfan#6872 am being petty and i do not care [15-Mar-21 03:32 PM] Frax314#7488 We already talked about it though-- [15-Mar-21 03:32 PM] shotfan#6872 SS3 RIPOFF REEEEEEEEEE [15-Mar-21 03:44 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 don't talk shit about my golden hawk boy Maser Beam [15-Mar-21 03:45 PM] shotfan#6872 WHERE IS MUH LIGHTNING GUN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [15-Mar-21 03:49 PM] Frax314#7488 Microwave Beam is still a masterpiece of weapon design compared to some weapons in LSD. [15-Mar-21 03:51 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 LMaO [15-Mar-21 03:52 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 My bet is that, when KET gets a full release, people are going to treat that Lightning Gun mod like they did the Stun Bomb mod in 2016. [15-Mar-21 03:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 and never use it? [15-Mar-21 03:52 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Ketamine [15-Mar-21 03:52 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 :notsorlag: [15-Mar-21 03:52 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Quite the opposite [15-Mar-21 03:53 PM] shotfan#6872 AHHHHHHHHHH [15-Mar-21 03:53 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 More like "If you're using any of the Plasma Gun's functions *besides* Lightning Gun, you're playing it wrong." [15-Mar-21 03:53 PM] shotfan#6872 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [15-Mar-21 03:54 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 UwU [15-Mar-21 03:54 PM] shotfan#6872 :19hpdguyface: [15-Mar-21 03:54 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Seriously, I can't see it as anything besides a straight-up primary fire replacement. [15-Mar-21 03:55 PM] shotfan#6872 LG has two major drawbacks compared to PG: 1. Limited range; 2. Can only latch on damage one enemy at the given time. [15-Mar-21 03:55 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 BFG's Unmaykr mode is dope [15-Mar-21 03:56 PM] shotfan#6872 And if anyone makes muh Heat Blast dirty I am gonna riot [15-Mar-21 03:56 PM] shotfan#6872 And I have infinite shotgun shells [15-Mar-21 03:56 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Heat Blast and Microwave Beam are pure sex [15-Mar-21 03:56 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 They goof [15-Mar-21 03:56 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 *good [15-Mar-21 03:57 PM] Frax314#7488 You can pretty much play all of Eternal just with Heat Blast reasonably. [15-Mar-21 03:57 PM] Frax314#7488 Not so much with Microwave. [15-Mar-21 03:58 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 How about Eternal without weapon mods [15-Mar-21 03:58 PM] Frax314#7488 The fact they had to make the Spirit vulnerable only to the Microwave Beam to buff it fully shows the bad side of elemental damage... [15-Mar-21 03:58 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Well that's why the element of pain exists [15-Mar-21 03:59 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Pain Elemental [15-Mar-21 03:59 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 1. Kind of a moot point when the player possesses mobility options out the wazoo, even one (the Meathook) designed expressly to bring the Slayer closer to enemies. 2. Doesn't KET's LG not technically latch onto enemies like MB (unless you're referring to PR shots dealing splash damage or whatnot)? [15-Mar-21 04:00 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 TBF, Microwave Beam gets a bad rap for having a higher skill floor than most other mods. [15-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Microwave Beam gets a bad rep for being sucky compared to other mods [15-Mar-21 04:01 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 The benefits it provides to the combat loop aren't immediately apparent, thus its easier to dismiss it as being useless. [15-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 that's the reason [15-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Frax314#7488 No, the problem it's that it's not used for what it initially seems to be dor. [15-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 other mods are simply more efficient [15-Mar-21 04:01 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 A dismissive reason, yes [15-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I suppose [15-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Frax314#7488 Even if you CAN use it efficiently, it won't be for what it SHOULD be used for. [15-Mar-21 04:01 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 it is pretty funny catching a random whiplash offguard with it [15-Mar-21 04:02 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 That being...? [15-Mar-21 04:02 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 MB on shields is op [15-Mar-21 04:02 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 ^ [15-Mar-21 04:02 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Also the stun [15-Mar-21 04:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yeah it's cool on shields [15-Mar-21 04:02 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Stuns enemies [15-Mar-21 04:02 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Plus, it creates a bigger shield pop [15-Mar-21 04:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but honestly I just ignore the shield [15-Mar-21 04:02 PM] Frax314#7488 Catch enemies in pain + deal continuous damage while they are stunned. [15-Mar-21 04:02 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 on any enemies really [15-Mar-21 04:03 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Shield Zombies have shields? Who cares I'm just gonna rocket your behind [15-Mar-21 04:03 PM] Frax314#7488 Instead it's used for stun *tapping* and what is virtually elemental damage. [15-Mar-21 04:03 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Chaingunners with shields? Do the exact same thing [15-Mar-21 04:03 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 So basically the equivalent of standing in front of a microwave until the meal is cooked? [15-Mar-21 04:03 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Cacademons [15-Mar-21 04:03 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Doom Hunter with a Shield? Bruteforce your way to the sled and bp it twice [15-Mar-21 04:04 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 The game points out multiple times that MB is designed as an enemy finisher [15-Mar-21 04:04 PM] Frax314#7488 If that's what you'd call the Lighting Gun as well... except MB doesn't need a good aim. [15-Mar-21 04:04 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Cyber Mancubus with full-on armor? PB Rocket [15-Mar-21 04:04 PM] Frax314#7488 There is NO REASON to there be a finisher mod when all weapons deal crazy damage [15-Mar-21 04:04 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 honestly in SP enemies are way to predictable so it doesn't really matter [15-Mar-21 04:04 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I.e. you dish out some damage beforehand with other weapons before capping off with the MB. [15-Mar-21 04:04 PM] Frax314#7488 And the Glory Kills exist [15-Mar-21 04:04 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Cyber mamcubus? Freeze 1 Blood punch 1 ssg blast [15-Mar-21 04:05 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Glory Kills aren't 100% necessary in all situations. [15-Mar-21 04:05 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 On some occasions, it can even be detrimental. [15-Mar-21 04:05 PM] Frax314#7488 MB leaves you more exposed than a glory kill. [15-Mar-21 04:06 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/m443b4/doom_eternal_the_ancient_gods_part_2_dlc_will/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf {Embed} https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/m443b4/doom_eternal_the_ancient_gods_part_2_dlc_will/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf r/Games - Doom Eternal The Ancient Gods Part 2 DLC will release 18t... 3,904 votes and 470 comments so far on Reddit https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WG04MuWQnChEhdIJ1mybPR2oJpA7j_yrwd9iXVVkGkA/%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D9781d949cc45cfbf1678670f1ffbec5e7ed6b1c4/https/external-preview.redd.it/OgElOAteJDU9RZBAaI41fXZ57KUFxlVTqkMXXCUxwgU.jpg [15-Mar-21 04:06 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Since it allows enemies time (if briefly) to surround you and go ham once the GK is done. [15-Mar-21 04:06 PM] shotfan#6872 Closing distance is not always desirable an takes time. And yes, I also meant splash damage, as PG excels at suppression. [15-Mar-21 04:07 PM] shotfan#6872 And I have problem with a weapon mod that arbitrary delays all the damage to the final portion of the attack. [15-Mar-21 04:07 PM] shotfan#6872 It goes against whole gameplay dynamic. [15-Mar-21 04:07 PM] shotfan#6872 You need to shove in damage at any opening you can get, not count on getting a comfortable spot to occupy all of your attention on one enemy. [15-Mar-21 04:08 PM] shotfan#6872 The only time that happens reliably is the final enemy in the encounter, making the mod borderline useless and superfluous. [15-Mar-21 04:08 PM] shotfan#6872 Plus, it is just lame compared to a proper LG weapon. [15-Mar-21 04:09 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Maybe the whole point isn't to use the weapon when you're in a comfortable position. [15-Mar-21 04:10 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Maybe the whole point is that you're taking a risk to use it in order to reap the benefits. [15-Mar-21 04:10 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 That's an aspect that isn't wholly touched on in the base game, but is encapsulated wholeheartedly by the Spirits. [15-Mar-21 04:12 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Since they now present a tangible and highly lethal drawback in failing to take those risks. [15-Mar-21 04:14 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Also, regarding what Frax was saying about not using weapons for their intended purpose. [15-Mar-21 04:14 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 So what? [15-Mar-21 04:15 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 If meta strategies weren't a thing (or even worse, were actively discouraged) we wouldn't get shit like Rocket Jumping or half of the gameplay innovations born from glitches in games these days. [15-Mar-21 04:18 PM] Frax314#7488 But Rocket Jumping is fun [15-Mar-21 04:18 PM] Frax314#7488 Using MB effectively is not [15-Mar-21 04:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, if you really wanted to make Spirits require the player to take a risk, make them only vulnerable to something even weaker instead of something mediocre to "fix" it. [15-Mar-21 04:20 PM] Frax314#7488 And there are far better ways to force the player to take risks than elemental damage. [15-Mar-21 04:20 PM] shotfan#6872 ``Maybe the whole point isn't to use the weapon when you're in a comfortable position.`` [15-Mar-21 04:21 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 > But Rocket Jumping is fun > Using MB effectively is not Both of those are subjective opinions [15-Mar-21 04:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Game design is subjective [15-Mar-21 04:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Maybe the whole point is to use the proper gun for the situation at hand. [15-Mar-21 04:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Elemental damage is cool when it is used to restrict cheese aganist an already really solid enemy (see HM's Baalgar -- seem hard enough yet? WELL GUESS WHAT you can't use the BFG on it either!) [15-Mar-21 04:22 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Aye. And is it a bad thing if said situation expressly pushes the player out of their comfort zone? [15-Mar-21 04:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Otherwise, just leave the player with one weapon and force them to take risk when they run into a improper situation for their gun. [15-Mar-21 04:23 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Also, IDK why you keep calling it "elemental damage" when you're referring to a single enemy only being vulnerable to a single weapon mod. [15-Mar-21 04:23 PM] shotfan#6872 There are other ways to challenge the comfort zone than enforcing specific guns. [15-Mar-21 04:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Such as mixed enemy formations. [15-Mar-21 04:23 PM] Frax314#7488 I have no better way to call it [15-Mar-21 04:24 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 "Elemental damage" implies that the Spirit should be vulnerable to all forms of Plasma attacks [15-Mar-21 04:24 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, elemental damage can also be to a single attack [15-Mar-21 04:24 PM] shotfan#6872 Forcing you to prioritize enemies and which gun to choose first. [15-Mar-21 04:24 PM] shotfan#6872 He is talking about a more general gameplay concept. [15-Mar-21 04:25 PM] shotfan#6872 If you want it clear, you could call it a specific weapon exclusive damage type. [15-Mar-21 04:25 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Pardon me, but I neglected to point out [15-Mar-21 04:25 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 There does exist an alternative method to eliminating a Spirit. [15-Mar-21 04:26 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 One that doesn't even involve the Microwave Beam. [15-Mar-21 04:26 PM] Frax314#7488 Blood Punch? Just a guess. [15-Mar-21 04:26 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Nope [15-Mar-21 04:27 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Not killing it at all. [15-Mar-21 04:27 PM] shotfan#6872 ??? [15-Mar-21 04:27 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Or rather, killing every other demon in an arena, leaving it with no nearby hosts to possess once you kill its present host. [15-Mar-21 04:27 PM] shotfan#6872 Ice Bomb? [15-Mar-21 04:28 PM] shotfan#6872 Ah that. [15-Mar-21 04:29 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 It'll pop out of existence after a short while of being unable to locate a nearby host. [15-Mar-21 04:30 PM] shotfan#6872 Fighting around it. [15-Mar-21 04:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Can't respawning fodder also be possessed? [15-Mar-21 04:30 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Yes, but said fodder stop respawning once an encounter is complete. [15-Mar-21 04:32 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 In fact, if you manage to corral a Spirit into a fodder demon - particularly the more ineffectual Zombies, you're more or less free to eliminate anything else to your heart's content. [15-Mar-21 04:33 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 TLDR, if you're so adverse to using the Microwave Beam against it and your movement game is on point (depending on which host a Spirit chooses, which you can guarantee will be the toughest on the field), you can absolutely go through the whole game without even going near a Spirit. [15-Mar-21 04:34 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Heck, it's a strategy that's enforced in Under the Mayo's Brawler Mode, which bans the Microwave Beam entirely for its capacity as a portable *nope.avi* button against enemies. [15-Mar-21 04:35 PM] Frax314#7488 Yes, it does not affect the MB-hating player. But we are talking design. [15-Mar-21 04:35 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Of course, the final boss is the exception to both scenarios. [15-Mar-21 04:36 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 stupid idea; Possessed enemies are a great danger to the point that it's pretty much mandatory to wipe them out first [15-Mar-21 04:37 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Killing all the other Heavies is a *tad bit harder* when a Possessed Hell Knight is faster than your walking speed [15-Mar-21 04:37 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Again, that's why followed up that the strategy is only properly viable if your movement game is on point. [15-Mar-21 04:38 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Plus, you aren't restricted from choosing which enemies you can kill, allowing you to corral a Spirit into a more manageable or, at least, avoidable host. [15-Mar-21 04:39 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I.e. Zombies [15-Mar-21 04:41 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 From then on, it's basically a game of being careful where you aim or what weapons you use, lest you accidentally release the corralled Spirit and have it empower a more nightmarish foe. [15-Mar-21 04:41 PM] Frax314#7488 Personally, it is good to have a weapon stronger/the only useful one on a certain enemy purely by the attack's actual properties, it is bad if you have to create this weakness artificially. That's what I meant. [15-Mar-21 04:42 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Heck, it's exactly the same concept that the new Screecher enemy is supposedly working off. [15-Mar-21 04:43 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Not entirely sure how this applies specifically for the Microwave Beam. Could you please elaborate? [15-Mar-21 04:44 PM] Frax314#7488 The Spirit has an artificial invincibility to every attack except the MB [15-Mar-21 04:44 PM] Frax314#7488 You don't use the MB because it's good aganist it, you use it because they made it so you must use it aganist it [15-Mar-21 04:44 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Define artificial in this context [15-Mar-21 04:44 PM] Frax314#7488 Damage types that are unrelated to the weapon's main function [15-Mar-21 04:44 PM] Frax314#7488 Or the monster's [15-Mar-21 04:45 PM] shotfan#6872 You mean "arbitrary" actually, Frax. [15-Mar-21 04:46 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Am I correct in assuming that you feel the whole purpose of the Spirit's sole vulnerability to the Microwave Beam is to justify its inclusion into the weapon sandbox? [15-Mar-21 04:46 PM] shotfan#6872 Meaning, it has no sensible reason to work that way. [15-Mar-21 04:46 PM] Frax314#7488 No, but it is still wrong. [15-Mar-21 04:47 PM] Frax314#7488 There is of course a reason in the arena flow for it. But this is not the way. [15-Mar-21 04:47 PM] shotfan#6872 It whole basis is the developer waving their hands to give the weapon and the enemy this relation - nothing else in the game world supports it. [15-Mar-21 04:48 PM] shotfan#6872 Even worse in this case because the change has been introduced in the expansion, it had not been there in the base game. [15-Mar-21 04:49 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 So it's the base concept of *this* specific enemy having only *this* specific interaction with *this* specific element of the sandbox? [15-Mar-21 04:49 PM] shotfan#6872 By the very least, to make this Spirit plasma damage vulnerablity sensible, then all of the PG's attack modes should be able to harm it. [15-Mar-21 04:50 PM] shotfan#6872 Unless, I do not know, you want to suddenly state that the maser mode is actually lifted straight from Ghostbusters or something lol [15-Mar-21 04:50 PM] Frax314#7488 No, that's not it [15-Mar-21 04:50 PM] Frax314#7488 Even if it is only vulnerable to Plasma in general, it's not a good mechanic [15-Mar-21 04:51 PM] shotfan#6872 Yes, it would not be good but it would be easier to *explain*. [15-Mar-21 04:51 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Again, I'm not entirely sure I follow your lines of reasoning. [15-Mar-21 04:51 PM] shotfan#6872 Intra-diegetic reasoning. [15-Mar-21 04:51 PM] Frax314#7488 You need to want to use this on that because it is effective in the gameplay itself, not because the game says so [15-Mar-21 04:51 PM] shotfan#6872 That is: what makes sense inside the game world? [15-Mar-21 04:52 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Is there a sensible reason as to why the Cyber-Mancubus' armour can only be stripped in one go by a Blood Punch and a Blood Punch only, as opposed to the myriad of other shockwave-based attacks? [15-Mar-21 04:52 PM] shotfan#6872 Here we go [15-Mar-21 04:53 PM] shotfan#6872 Then I can ask you why the Doom Slayer needs upwards of twnety regular punches to kill the weakest enemy in the game? [15-Mar-21 04:53 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Is there any reason why Hell Nobles are staggered by Chaingun fire and *only* Chaingun fire, and not the Heavy Cannon? [15-Mar-21 04:53 PM] shotfan#6872 It is not like those examples are helping the whole Spirit-Plasma case at all. [15-Mar-21 04:53 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Is there any reason why the Ballista deals bonus damage to flying enemies? [15-Mar-21 04:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Both of these are bad mechanics too [15-Mar-21 04:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Imho [15-Mar-21 04:54 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Which, I might add, also includes the Revenant [15-Mar-21 04:54 PM] shotfan#6872 You see? [15-Mar-21 04:54 PM] shotfan#6872 All of that is arbitrary. [15-Mar-21 04:54 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Which technically becomes a ground-based enemy once you shoot off the cannons. [15-Mar-21 04:54 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I see now [15-Mar-21 04:54 PM] Frax314#7488 The Chaingun should be more effective aganist the Nobles not because the HC just *can't* stun them, but because the Chaingun just stuns them much better [15-Mar-21 04:54 PM] shotfan#6872 And that is not good. [15-Mar-21 04:54 PM] shotfan#6872 oh god [15-Mar-21 04:54 PM] shotfan#6872 do not mention that fucking stupid name [15-Mar-21 04:55 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Your problem is with arbitrary weapon mechanics. [15-Mar-21 04:55 PM] shotfan#6872 "Heavy Cannon", somebody is envy of Serious Sam alright. [15-Mar-21 04:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Idk I never thought anything of that [15-Mar-21 04:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Then again I'm not that big a SS fan [15-Mar-21 04:56 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Heavy Cannon's a fine name for a handheld autocannon. [15-Mar-21 04:56 PM] shotfan#6872 No. [15-Mar-21 04:56 PM] shotfan#6872 It is an oversized DMR, not a cannon in any way, shape or form. [15-Mar-21 04:57 PM] shotfan#6872 I call it semantic inflation. [15-Mar-21 04:57 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Better than the Heavy Assault Rifle (HAR HAR HAR. Funnee stuff, mai dood) when even its lore entry acknowledges that its "Assault Rifle" name is a misnomer. [15-Mar-21 04:58 PM] shotfan#6872 "Heavy Assault Rifle" was to boring it seems anymore. [15-Mar-21 04:58 PM] shotfan#6872 What [15-Mar-21 04:58 PM] shotfan#6872 "Heavy Cannon" is that too, only more stupid. [15-Mar-21 04:58 PM] shotfan#6872 Same weapon class, more deranged name. [15-Mar-21 04:58 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 The lore entry literally states that the HAR is more akin to an LMG. [15-Mar-21 04:58 PM] shotfan#6872 Soooooo [15-Mar-21 04:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Not that far away, huh? [15-Mar-21 04:59 PM] Frax314#7488 Just call it Machinegun because Quake naming rulez [15-Mar-21 04:59 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Heavy Cannon is an autocannon. [15-Mar-21 04:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh yeah? [15-Mar-21 04:59 PM] shotfan#6872 Does it fire 20mm shells? [15-Mar-21 05:00 PM] shotfan#6872 Do the shells explode? [15-Mar-21 05:00 PM] shotfan#6872 Is the recoil too big for a normal man to handle? [15-Mar-21 05:00 PM] shotfan#6872 Doom 4 Chaingun is an autocannon, not this thing. [15-Mar-21 05:02 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Doom eternel [15-Mar-21 05:02 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 It's lore entry states that it uses *optional exploding dart ammunition*. [15-Mar-21 05:03 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And I highly doubt the "optional" part refers to the micro-missiles. [15-Mar-21 05:04 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Since recoil shouldn't realistically be an issue for self-propelled projectiles like the missiles. [15-Mar-21 05:04 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Actually, I'll just post the full entry [15-Mar-21 05:05 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 *A common complaint among users of this punch-packing conventional weapon is the weight, as most of the components are forged in Tungstronium, a proprietary alloy developed to withstand enormous stresses imparted by the optional exploding dart ammunition. However, the additional weight makes the Heavy Cannon an ideal sniper rifle, as swaying and tremors are mitigated by the massive bulk. Trigger management is of the highest priority when using this weapon, as self-inflicted gunshot wounds are common thanks to its no-pull reflex trigger system.* [15-Mar-21 05:05 PM] shotfan#6872 ``makes the Heavy Cannon an ideal sniper rifle`` [15-Mar-21 05:06 PM] shotfan#6872 So the weapon classification is all over the place. [15-Mar-21 05:06 PM] shotfan#6872 Just the exploding ammo is not enough to make it a cannon in any capacity. [15-Mar-21 05:06 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I presume that the "Sniper Rifle" part only applies when using the Precision Bolt mod. [15-Mar-21 05:07 PM] shotfan#6872 And even then, "autocannon" is the subfamily of the weakest cannons. [15-Mar-21 05:08 PM] shotfan#6872 To be ***HEAVY*** it would need to rival Ballista at the very least. [15-Mar-21 05:08 PM] shotfan#6872 id just likes ~~cool~~ impressive names too much for their own good. [15-Mar-21 05:09 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Big flippin whoop. [15-Mar-21 05:09 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Glad you've made your acquaintance with the Rule of Cool, my good sir. [15-Mar-21 05:10 PM] shotfan#6872 Too bad it is used in a dumb way this time. [15-Mar-21 05:10 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 If you personally insist. [15-Mar-21 05:11 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I at least think it's a fine escalation from *HAR HAR HAR. Funnee stuff, mai dood* [15-Mar-21 05:11 PM] Frax314#7488 It isnt that bad tbh [15-Mar-21 05:12 PM] Frax314#7488 Except for gun nuts it must be really bad heh [15-Mar-21 05:12 PM] Frax314#7488 """Chainguns""" [15-Mar-21 05:13 PM] shotfan#6872 Chaingun is erroneous too, but the scale of the mistake is lesser. [15-Mar-21 05:13 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 If people were so anal about weapon names, they'd insist on calling the Super Shotgun a "Coach gun" [15-Mar-21 05:18 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And yeah, not sure how Chaingun is any less erroneous than what you think the Heavy Cannon should really be, but whatever. [15-Mar-21 05:19 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I just find it cool how, if you read into the Chaingun's Codex entry, that the weapon is effectively a goddamn *rail-minigun*. [15-Mar-21 05:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Super Shotgun is a nickname Doom itself started. [15-Mar-21 05:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh... I meant the Doom 4 Chaingun. [15-Mar-21 05:23 PM] shotfan#6872 I have not been aware that its new iteration is actually a railtech weapon. [15-Mar-21 05:24 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, that is still an error. But I take specific offense to Heavy Cannon because I think it is an extreme, unwarranted semantic exagerration. [15-Mar-21 05:25 PM] shotfan#6872 I think I have ranted enough on that. [15-Mar-21 05:26 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 You could always levy the complaint towards Id themselves about this extreme, unwarranted semantic exaggeration. [15-Mar-21 05:27 PM] Frax314#7488 FPS are not always made by gun nuts I suppose this is the case [15-Mar-21 05:27 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Y'know, really drive home how they're utterly reprehensible for such a grandiose practise of incompetence. [15-Mar-21 05:28 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And unless you're making an ARMA/Insurgency-styled Milsim, you shouldn't have to. [15-Mar-21 05:29 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Even the grounded and more realistic Halo series has an AR that's more akin to an SMG. [15-Mar-21 05:30 PM] Frax314#7488 But yeah back to og discussion [15-Mar-21 05:30 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And the less said about the Hardlight weapons, the better [15-Mar-21 05:32 PM] Frax314#7488 I want to use Ice Bomb on idk something like a Summoner not because the Summoner has a specific weakness to it, even if it's lore-justified, but because the Summoner is fast and I want a clear shot on it [15-Mar-21 05:33 PM] Frax314#7488 I said the opposite is fine however (that is, Summoner being immune to the Ice Bomb for the exact same reason) [15-Mar-21 05:34 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And you are referring explicitly to the Summoner, and not the Spirits they eventually become? [15-Mar-21 05:35 PM] Frax314#7488 The Spirit *defies* that example, that's why I dislike it [15-Mar-21 05:44 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I kinda get what you're going at, though I think it'd help if it were put in more general terms. [15-Mar-21 05:44 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 You prefer enemies having weaknesses to sandbox elements due to how they affect/exploit a given enemy's base stats, physical attributes and AI/attacks patterns. [15-Mar-21 05:44 PM] Frax314#7488 Pretty much, I guess...? [15-Mar-21 05:44 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And not due to prescribed, hardcoded weaknesses. [15-Mar-21 05:46 PM] shotfan#6872 Just wanted to say that Halo is all over the place with its gun credibility. It is not really that grounded, more like a *mildly* hard science fiction. And yeah, the Hardlight weapons are one of the biggest exercises in the lack of creativity that I have ever seen in video games. [15-Mar-21 05:46 PM] shotfan#6872 But that is just a small digression to the discussion on hand. [15-Mar-21 05:52 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 That's an amicable view to have. However, I feel that relying on such enemy attributes can only go so far with those base AI attributes before you end up having fall back on arbitrary weaknesses. [15-Mar-21 05:53 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Since as long as the concept of a "meta" exists, weapons will be used purely on raw elimination efficiency. [15-Mar-21 05:53 PM] Frax314#7488 That is because developing the gameplay in a genuine way is best, instead of trying to interweave every single thing [15-Mar-21 05:54 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 At least in a game like Doom where you carry your entire arsenal with you. [15-Mar-21 05:54 PM] Frax314#7488 Indeed, if you try to use only base AI attributes but also try to interweave too much, you'd end up with basically glorified prescribed weaknesses [15-Mar-21 05:55 PM] shotfan#6872 And the different weapons exist because they do different things well. [15-Mar-21 05:55 PM] shotfan#6872 But one specific niche of killing one enemy is, arguably, a point where a weapon stops being a weapon and becomes just a tool. [15-Mar-21 05:55 PM] Frax314#7488 Or sometimes, the same thing in different contexts (automatic hitscan weapons with different properties and ammo types...) [15-Mar-21 05:56 PM] shotfan#6872 And subjectively, a weapon like that is not fun to use at all. [15-Mar-21 05:56 PM] Frax314#7488 More like cripplingly overspecialized, tools are a term used for other kinds of stuff that's generally considered fine [15-Mar-21 05:57 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Thank goodness that the MB doesn't have one specific niche, ey'? [15-Mar-21 05:57 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 😉 [15-Mar-21 05:57 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 goddamn [15-Mar-21 05:58 PM] shotfan#6872 Because it becomes less of a thing to play around with its capabilities, and more of a dull, tedious work to repeat time after time. [15-Mar-21 05:58 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I played like 3 matches of CSGO and yall *still* arguing over the Microwave Beam [15-Mar-21 05:58 PM] shotfan#6872 And that specific niche, we already have discussed. [15-Mar-21 05:58 PM] Frax314#7488 Uberkek [15-Mar-21 05:58 PM] shotfan#6872 It is not like CSGO matches take much time, do they? [15-Mar-21 05:59 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 they feel like 50 fucking years [15-Mar-21 06:03 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 The thing I was trying to originally argue about the Microwave Beam was that the base campaign didn't provide players with the opportunity to fully explore its mechanical depths. That, combined with the high skill ceiling in using it effectively turned many players away. [15-Mar-21 06:04 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I see the Spirit as more of a Microwave Beam acclimator; something to allows players to get used to how the MB works and, ideally, consider further investigating further combat applications beyond Bustin' to make themselves feel good. [15-Mar-21 06:05 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And beyond the derisive and spiteful remarks of that one server, I'd say the efforts were moderately successful. [15-Mar-21 06:09 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And this may only be me, but I cannot help but see Frax's vision ending up no better than what happened with Doom 2016. [15-Mar-21 06:09 PM] Frax314#7488 No??? Doom 2016's weapons were all too good. [15-Mar-21 06:09 PM] Frax314#7488 And the enemies too weak. [15-Mar-21 06:10 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Too good? [15-Mar-21 06:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Also no enemy restricted these OP weapons in any way. [15-Mar-21 06:10 PM] Frax314#7488 Too good in comparision to the enemies' power, that is. [15-Mar-21 06:11 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I was mainly referring to how, in general, metas greatly favour two aspects; applicability and efficiency. [15-Mar-21 06:12 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Basically, how many jobs can something do and how quickly can it do them? [15-Mar-21 06:18 PM] Frax314#7488 But that's where my point goes: genuine design, then let the meta develop however the fuck it wants [15-Mar-21 06:19 PM] Frax314#7488 The most loved fighting games are those made the least for the meta [15-Mar-21 06:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Like Street Fighter 2. Everyone loves it, even though it was made with barely an idea of how FG meta would develop [15-Mar-21 06:22 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Feels a bit of a false equivalence to compare a fighting game vs an FPS, but eh. [15-Mar-21 06:22 PM] Frax314#7488 Don't try to steer too much the gameplay to one direction, maybe it will be easily possible to play in entirely another way despite all your efforts [15-Mar-21 06:22 PM] Frax314#7488 That is what I say [15-Mar-21 06:22 PM] Frax314#7488 And freedom good [15-Mar-21 06:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Genuine design gives real freedom to the player [15-Mar-21 06:23 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Ah, I figured that was going to be the case [15-Mar-21 06:23 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Freedom is good [15-Mar-21 06:24 PM] Frax314#7488 And I don't mean the undefined "freedom" most people blabber on about [15-Mar-21 06:25 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I guess I prefer Eternal's design philosophy on how it restricts those freedoms. [15-Mar-21 06:25 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 And I think its a sensible decision. [15-Mar-21 06:26 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 The idea of letting the meta take its course I think works well in a multiplayer game, where its aspects are in a regular flux of changes from the mundane to the game-changing. [15-Mar-21 06:28 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 However, I don't think it's entirely conducive to something like Eternal's campaigns, something that you'd at least expect to provide as consistent an experience from when you first booted it up to when you play it a decade later. [15-Mar-21 06:29 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 To highlight my key issue with your philosophy, systems are implemented on the principle that they will be used. [15-Mar-21 06:30 PM] Frax314#7488 Halt. Eternal does it first. [15-Mar-21 06:30 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Say we had 50 of these systems that followed these rules of "genuine design". [15-Mar-21 06:31 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 What happens when the meta favours only a minute selection of these systems, say around 4-6. [15-Mar-21 06:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Why should it? If the systems are all genuine and well-made, they'll use every one of them. [15-Mar-21 06:31 PM] Frax314#7488 See Devil May Cry. [15-Mar-21 06:32 PM] Frax314#7488 Is there not always a drive to use every single one of Dante's abilities? [15-Mar-21 06:32 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Of course, the score system. [15-Mar-21 06:33 PM] Frax314#7488 No. [15-Mar-21 06:33 PM] Frax314#7488 Even without the Style meter, you'd want to learn how to use this gun or that technique. [15-Mar-21 06:33 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Why? [15-Mar-21 06:35 PM] Frax314#7488 I took some good time in DMC5's tranining mode just to try and understand how to use each Swordmaster attack I did not use before. BECAUSE THEY ARE COOL, and they are useful as well! Because they are designed genuinely, so that they have their non-precise-but-existant use and feel good to use. [15-Mar-21 06:37 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I get the feeling that you're trying to project your personal experiences with a specific game onto overarching design concepts. [15-Mar-21 06:38 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Besides, what's stopping a given DMC player from using the most efficient tools to kill things, regardless as to whether they're cool or not? What's to assume that you aren't the only person to learn every DMC5 Swordmaster attack under the sun? [15-Mar-21 06:41 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I'd honestly love to see what sort of design process you'd come up for your "genuine" Doom Eternal, as irritating and ill-defined a label that is. [15-Mar-21 06:46 PM] Frax314#7488 The very reason why we play games. FUN. [15-Mar-21 06:47 PM] Frax314#7488 Granted, that may hypothetically be their fun, but you know what I mean [15-Mar-21 06:49 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 So I'd say its safe to say that you prefer it when a game gives players the capacity to find their own "fun zone" when playing, rather than the game imposing its own fun zone on the player. [15-Mar-21 06:50 PM] Frax314#7488 I would rather have all UN DE speedruns boring but the game itself (even, if you will) more fun to your average joe, that's why I support genuine design over meta steering [15-Mar-21 06:51 PM] Frax314#7488 There is always a precise fun zone in a given game, the difference is in what players can do while in it [15-Mar-21 06:52 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I assume that "preciseness" only falls within the purview of genre? [15-Mar-21 06:55 PM] Frax314#7488 I mean. The fun zone in Doom Eternal, in the end, is killing the baddies using a variety of weapons and tools in more or less efficient and cool ways while staying alert on your resources and around said baddies' attacks. [15-Mar-21 06:55 PM] Frax314#7488 In Classic Doom, it is the very traversal of the level killing baddies along the way. [15-Mar-21 06:58 PM] Frax314#7488 And if it is for the fun zone to last and last well, there must be variety, clearly. We have multiple levels for game and progression systems for a reason. [15-Mar-21 07:00 PM] Frax314#7488 DMC encourages you to learn attacks you normally wouldn't bother with, and that's quite an universal gameplay design feat. [15-Mar-21 07:04 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Solely on the basis that they look cool, and not necessarily because they provide a distinct advantage over other attacks? [15-Mar-21 07:10 PM] Frax314#7488 All attacks have advantages of their own. Some are useful with many enemies at once. Others are powerful but don't have many combo hits, making them useful on targets with a knockdown restriction. But you can litterally just ignore that if you want, maybe also defeat enemies in the most unorthodox way possible. So it's... *balanced.* No attack is too niche, no attack is too efficient. In the end, you use most attacks you know synergically, sometimes because they are advantageous in the immediate situations, others because you just kind of wanted to. [15-Mar-21 07:13 PM] Frax314#7488 A similar arsenal of interchangeable but also specialized attacks/weapons can be found in my two paragons of FPS excellence, Ultrakill and Hunter's Moon. [15-Mar-21 07:15 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 You ever tried SPV3? [15-Mar-21 07:16 PM] Frax314#7488 Nah I did not. But I can guess what your argument is gonna be. Yes, I know this kind of balance has an evil twin; Brutal Doom is guilty of it. [15-Mar-21 07:16 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 No, I wasn't really going to make an argument with that question [15-Mar-21 07:17 PM] Frax314#7488 But just because shitty examples exist, it should not deter you from going forward. There are many ways Eternal could've gone wrong with the exact same philosophy [15-Mar-21 07:17 PM] Frax314#7488 Brb [15-Mar-21 07:18 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 I just figured that SPV3 could be added as a third paragon of FPS excellence, since it fits within a lot of your preferences for genuine game design. [15-Mar-21 07:18 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 That, and its 2AM in the morning and I'm not really in the state to make further arguments. [15-Mar-21 07:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Timezones strike againnnn [15-Mar-21 07:55 PM] polyzium#0481 Good evening [15-Mar-21 07:55 PM] polyzium#0481 I'm glad Doomkid is aware of this thing now [15-Mar-21 07:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Hi polyz [15-Mar-21 07:56 PM] Frax314#7488 Yea we did good [15-Mar-21 07:57 PM] Frax314#7488 This evening we complete and send the ZDF post. [15-Mar-21 07:59 PM] polyzium#0481 I see. Unfortunately I barely have time for anything so all I can say is good luck and hopefully that mf learns his lesson [16-Mar-21 12:13 AM] shotfan#6872 Added the screenshots to the ZDF post draft, about Lord Lothar's collusion with Lister. [16-Mar-21 12:46 AM] Frax314#7488 Lemme review it. [16-Mar-21 12:47 AM] Frax314#7488 You could've used the links like everywhere else... Oh well. [16-Mar-21 12:51 AM] Frax314#7488 Seems fine. Tomorrow morning, last touches & postinf. [16-Mar-21 03:34 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 You know Frax, now that I've been thinking about it more [16-Mar-21 03:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Our original plan of buying Listeronum and attempting to crack it was probably all for naught anyways [16-Mar-21 03:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Considering Lister's uh... coding """"knowledge"""" it would've probably all had been a pipe dream anyways [16-Mar-21 03:36 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 And we would've wasted 15-20$ on some shitty GZDoom bootleg [16-Mar-21 03:36 AM] HeisenDrive#1684 Assuming that Blister wasn't already forced to release the source code to comply with GPL? [16-Mar-21 03:38 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 That too [16-Mar-21 03:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Already March 15th, yet no sign of an upcoming release [16-Mar-21 03:39 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Who knows, once it's announced we might even be able to let others do the job for us via crowd mentality [16-Mar-21 06:48 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 should I tell Doomkid Lothar's in on the whole situation [16-Mar-21 06:48 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 [16-Mar-21 10:57 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 (pinned) @everyone talked to one of the dudes from Project Brutality's side of the community, the guy who made the Commander SSG addon. He also confirms that Pa1n and the dev team are not siding with any paid sourceport developers (aka Lister) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/821291118167326740/Screenshot_883.png [16-Mar-21 10:58 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Pinned a message. [16-Mar-21 10:58 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 this effectively means only Lothar is being affected by Lister's lies [16-Mar-21 10:58 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 and Kinnerokhn's arguments in Romero's Discord are a huge fib [16-Mar-21 11:00 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I'm tempted to call the dumbass out on Romero's Discord [16-Mar-21 11:00 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but it may spark another undesirable shitshow there [16-Mar-21 11:00 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 should I tell this to Doomkid [16-Mar-21 11:11 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 although he says Cacodemon346's doxxing might've been a mixup accusation [16-Mar-21 11:14 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 some more {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/821295234083586068/Screenshot_884.png [16-Mar-21 11:20 AM] Frax314#7488 Li$ter did not doxx anyone as far as we know [16-Mar-21 11:20 AM] Frax314#7488 It's rumors [16-Mar-21 11:21 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ah ok [16-Mar-21 11:22 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so that pretty much means Kinnerokhn and Lister's claims of Sarge and Pa1n involved with Listeronum are debunked [16-Mar-21 11:22 AM] Frax314#7488 Not sure. [16-Mar-21 11:22 AM] Frax314#7488 Pa1n himself might just not have ever talked about it to his staff. [16-Mar-21 11:23 AM] Frax314#7488 After all, his staff **does** hate Li$ter's guts. [16-Mar-21 11:25 AM] Frax314#7488 HOWEVER. [16-Mar-21 11:26 AM] Frax314#7488 He won't be able to do half his mod without his staff's help, especially if Galdoc and the other spriters distance themselves from him. [16-Mar-21 11:31 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 do half his mod? But they haven't done any progress in the past few years {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/821299567957901332/the_U_L_T_R_A_K_E_K.jpeg [16-Mar-21 11:31 AM] Frax314#7488 Haha yea [16-Mar-21 11:31 AM] Frax314#7488 It's the MMX Corrupted of Doom but mediocre [16-Mar-21 11:34 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 MMX? [16-Mar-21 11:35 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 wasn't that that mod by Samarai? [16-Mar-21 11:52 AM] Frax314#7488 Nah Megaman X Corrupted [16-Mar-21 11:52 AM] Frax314#7488 Fangame that's been in development for a ridiculous amount of time and is still barely half done [16-Mar-21 11:56 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ohh [16-Mar-21 02:06 PM] shotfan#6872 I know popguy12, he is active on the LiTDoom server. Seems trustworthy. [16-Mar-21 02:07 PM] shotfan#6872 We cannot be sure about Pa1n until he himself makes a statement, but for now the whole claim of him and Sarge entering the deal with Lister seems more of a promotional lie than anything. [16-Mar-21 02:19 PM] Frax314#7488 He is [16-Mar-21 02:19 PM] Frax314#7488 I talked with him a few times [16-Mar-21 02:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I guess you could say [16-Mar-21 02:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he's a very poggersguy12 [16-Mar-21 02:23 PM] shotfan#6872 wut [16-Mar-21 02:23 PM] shotfan#6872 But yeah, he appears reasonable. [16-Mar-21 02:50 PM] Frax314#7488 It's time. Gonna post the thing on ZDF. I only hope they don't treat it as spam. [16-Mar-21 02:53 PM] Frax314#7488 WELL FUCK [16-Mar-21 02:53 PM] Raov#2531 ? [16-Mar-21 02:53 PM] Frax314#7488 I JUST REALIZED THERE IS NO PROPER SECTION FOR IT [16-Mar-21 02:53 PM] Frax314#7488 In the forums [16-Mar-21 02:56 PM] Frax314#7488 We have to big thonk now [16-Mar-21 03:05 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~news~~ [16-Mar-21 03:07 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 There's no "general discussion" section? [16-Mar-21 03:19 PM] shotfan#6872 There is. [16-Mar-21 03:19 PM] shotfan#6872 Either news, general discussion, or offtopic. [16-Mar-21 03:19 PM] shotfan#6872 The first two require ZDoom relation... but there kind of is? [16-Mar-21 03:27 PM] Frax314#7488 Yeah but the problem is... it's not very relevant compared to the common posts in them. [16-Mar-21 03:27 PM] Frax314#7488 In Doomworld there's Doom General and Source Ports for that. [16-Mar-21 03:30 PM] shotfan#6872 There are already some threads about Doom licensing in offtopic. [16-Mar-21 03:55 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 we could give it to verifiable members of the community so they can share it instead [16-Mar-21 04:15 PM] Frax314#7488 Idk how though [16-Mar-21 04:22 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 oh right because you left *literally every single Doom server* [16-Mar-21 04:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *sigh* I'm still in the HDest Discord [16-Mar-21 04:23 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I might be able to share it to them there [17-Mar-21 02:49 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Any update on that warning post [17-Mar-21 02:53 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 boi [17-Mar-21 06:38 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 uh [17-Mar-21 06:38 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 hello? the wARnINg POsT [17-Mar-21 06:38 AM] Raov#2531 What about it [17-Mar-21 06:53 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 weren't we supposed to give it?? [17-Mar-21 06:53 AM] Raov#2531 Ah that one [17-Mar-21 06:54 AM] Raov#2531 Idk what the plan even is at this point [17-Mar-21 06:54 AM] Raov#2531 Literally sitting doing nothing out here [17-Mar-21 07:41 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 @Frax314 What happun to the warningthingimajig [17-Mar-21 10:15 AM] Frax314#7488 I don't know [17-Mar-21 10:19 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 b r u h [17-Mar-21 02:10 PM] shotfan#6872 Just post it to ZDF offtopic. [17-Mar-21 02:11 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright... gonna do. [17-Mar-21 02:17 PM] shotfan#6872 Worst case scenario, they dismiss you as a loony. [17-Mar-21 02:18 PM] shotfan#6872 But, there have been legal discussions already. [17-Mar-21 02:18 PM] shotfan#6872 With a bit of luck, the regulars will believe. [17-Mar-21 02:21 PM] Frax314#7488 Also, there are people who know (Marisa etc) and will likely be willing to clarify even more than the original post does. [17-Mar-21 02:35 PM] Frax314#7488 https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=71767 {Embed} https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=71767 ZDoom • View topic - [COMMUNITY INFO] Illegal paid sourceport relea... Discussion about ZDoom [17-Mar-21 02:35 PM] Frax314#7488 Done [17-Mar-21 02:35 PM] Frax314#7488 Expanded it, too. [17-Mar-21 02:45 PM] Frax314#7488 tell me if something is wrong btw [17-Mar-21 03:06 PM] shotfan#6872 The first screenshot link from my account is invalid. Only the second one works. [17-Mar-21 03:23 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 https://tenor.com/view/fun-fun-begins-star-wars-skywalker-gif-18356472 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/fun-fun-begins-star-wars-skywalker-gif-18356472 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/XTxaBguyCgfEPIAmOAXSuCRKNAAzdYx3Bxd90v9XqlM/https/media.tenor.co/images/9e5b7cbe5c83b4eb2630e280582b1b45/tenor.png [17-Mar-21 03:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Actually, it does. [17-Mar-21 03:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Copy+paste. [17-Mar-21 03:31 PM] Frax314#7488 Not sure why it is not treated as a link [17-Mar-21 03:32 PM] shotfan#6872 Maybe add blank space before it? [17-Mar-21 03:32 PM] Frax314#7488 Ill see to it [17-Mar-21 03:33 PM] Frax314#7488 Happened to Fluffy's too [17-Mar-21 03:33 PM] shotfan#6872 The yellow highlight in that screenshot indicates that either me or Zero made the picture (it was Zero in this case). I do not give a shit. [17-Mar-21 03:34 PM] shotfan#6872 How about you, @YourpalZ3R0 ? [17-Mar-21 03:34 PM] shotfan#6872 I suppose that I know the answer already, but I am asking anyway. [17-Mar-21 03:37 PM] Frax314#7488 It's super obvious it's you anyhow lol [17-Mar-21 03:39 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I have been summoned. [17-Mar-21 03:39 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Context? [17-Mar-21 03:40 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Which one? [17-Mar-21 03:40 PM] shotfan#6872 First one, in anonymous #2. [17-Mar-21 03:41 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 That's not me, no. [17-Mar-21 03:41 PM] shotfan#6872 It is your screen background lol [17-Mar-21 03:41 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I mean first off, the discord text (where "today at X:XX" is at) is not English. [17-Mar-21 03:41 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 What [17-Mar-21 03:42 PM] shotfan#6872 And the highlight indicates both me and you. [17-Mar-21 03:42 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/810189649497948200/130221_1744.png {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/810189649497948200/130221_1744.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786555353407029270/810189649497948200/130221_1744.png [17-Mar-21 03:42 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 are you not talking about this one [17-Mar-21 03:42 PM] shotfan#6872 The other one. [17-Mar-21 03:42 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Ohhh, the link is not embeded [17-Mar-21 03:42 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Goddamn it, fix your articles. [17-Mar-21 03:43 PM] shotfan#6872 lol [17-Mar-21 03:43 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 yeah that's me obviously [17-Mar-21 03:43 PM] shotfan#6872 Fine for you? [17-Mar-21 03:43 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Hey, you can show the more specific shit I sent as well. No care. [17-Mar-21 03:43 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I don't have any stakes in the doom community anyways. [17-Mar-21 03:44 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 aside from helping modders here and there, yeah I don't think helping in exposing a russian scam artist is a bad thing to have on my resume kek [17-Mar-21 03:44 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 so feel free [17-Mar-21 03:44 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 also that image quality is piss [17-Mar-21 03:44 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I did not send it that badly. [17-Mar-21 03:44 PM] shotfan#6872 Reprocessing maybe. [17-Mar-21 03:44 PM] shotfan#6872 You can provide the original one lol [17-Mar-21 03:45 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Wasn't that a public post? [17-Mar-21 03:45 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Let me check [17-Mar-21 03:48 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Here, big brain move {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/821726719492358164/unknown.png [17-Mar-21 03:49 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 So for neither of us to be involved, the ping marker is removed. [17-Mar-21 03:49 PM] shotfan#6872 I am no longer there you know [17-Mar-21 03:49 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 This will leave it very ambigious, since the moderators they pick are extremely random so it could be anyone [17-Mar-21 03:49 PM] shotfan#6872 @Frax314 You can swap if you want, whatever [17-Mar-21 03:49 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Hey, just to clean our hands from anything. [17-Mar-21 03:50 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright [17-Mar-21 03:50 PM] Frax314#7488 Fixin' time [17-Mar-21 03:50 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 You want it to be anon, made it as anon as I could for ya. [17-Mar-21 03:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Updated [17-Mar-21 03:51 PM] Frax314#7488 Thanks. [17-Mar-21 03:52 PM] Frax314#7488 Now, we really did everything we could *while preserving our sanity and morals* [17-Mar-21 03:53 PM] Frax314#7488 It's up to this stupid ass community to choose now [17-Mar-21 03:55 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Let me tell ya, I'm not one to participate in community dramas that much; I usually watch shit go from the sidelines. However from what I've seen, my bet is that it will probably be ignored by most except for the people who really care about their PR like Doom Krakken etc. and generally those with morals. [17-Mar-21 03:56 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Small creators and most community modders alike will prefer to stay on the sidelines and see what will come of Lister's sourceport. Fearing that if they joined against him (even if they know what he's doing is Immoral) he'd block their mods from his soureport, and they don't know if his sourceport is good or bad yet. [17-Mar-21 03:56 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 As we saw with my friend Lothar here. [17-Mar-21 03:56 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 And he doesn't even need a sourceport to operate his large scale mod. [17-Mar-21 03:57 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 All in all, I still really appreciate the immense work you guys are putting in. It is very respectable especially in the doom modding community where its mostly filled by room temp' IQ ape brains. [17-Mar-21 03:57 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I'll try to help when I can as well. [17-Mar-21 03:59 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~Kelvin Celsius or Fahrenheit~~ [17-Mar-21 03:59 PM] Frax314#7488 WHEEZE [17-Mar-21 03:59 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 NOOO [17-Mar-21 03:59 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 NOT THE AMERICANS [17-Mar-21 03:59 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 CELSIUS OBVIOUSLY [17-Mar-21 03:59 PM] Frax314#7488 Gigachad [17-Mar-21 04:00 PM] Frax314#7488 Kelvin people be like **sciens:tm:** [17-Mar-21 04:02 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 POV: you're looking at a Kelvin user {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/821730185589948457/ERDO2RdWAAEoxkU.png [17-Mar-21 04:07 PM] Frax314#7488 Lmfao [17-Mar-21 05:01 PM] polyzium#0481 Lmfao [17-Mar-21 05:01 PM] polyzium#0481 They locked the forums [17-Mar-21 05:01 PM] polyzium#0481 Xdddddd [17-Mar-21 05:03 PM] polyzium#0481 Or they removed the thread [17-Mar-21 05:04 PM] polyzium#0481 @Frax314 check your link again pls [17-Mar-21 05:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Rachael said that it would just publicize Listeronum more. [17-Mar-21 05:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Well fuck. [17-Mar-21 05:08 PM] polyzium#0481 What the fuck man [17-Mar-21 05:08 PM] polyzium#0481 Doomworld is OK with that [17-Mar-21 05:11 PM] Frax314#7488 Sent a simple reply, all's over with it I guess... [17-Mar-21 05:14 PM] Frax314#7488 Also of course she used the 2016 election as an example because she's a fucking twittertard as usual [17-Mar-21 05:14 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 she's a twit [17-Mar-21 05:14 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 fuck it [17-Mar-21 05:14 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 majority of the community is full of twits [17-Mar-21 05:43 PM] polyzium#0481 Doom community in a nutshell? [17-Mar-21 05:44 PM] Frax314#7488 I'd say it's like a herd of sheep attacked by violent goats and a few wolves [17-Mar-21 06:16 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/821763830190178335/ltrbm.png [17-Mar-21 06:18 PM] Frax314#7488 When they're so scared they want to pretend nothing is going on, you know we are. [17-Mar-21 06:18 PM] Frax314#7488 Their fault. [17-Mar-21 06:23 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 To clarify, was this on the Zdoom forums or Doomworld? [17-Mar-21 06:24 PM] polyzium#0481 ZDF [17-Mar-21 06:25 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Right [17-Mar-21 06:26 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Haven't tried posting to Doomworld yet, or not as relevant? [17-Mar-21 06:26 PM] polyzium#0481 Doomkid already did [17-Mar-21 06:39 PM] HeisenDrive#1684 Gud [17-Mar-21 07:19 PM] Frax314#7488 POGGERS [17-Mar-21 07:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Apparently the ZDoom team contacted Bethesda about it [17-Mar-21 07:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Using our data as well [17-Mar-21 07:20 PM] Frax314#7488 This is nice I guess [17-Mar-21 07:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Post'll also get unlocked if a way to legally attack Lister is found [17-Mar-21 07:20 PM] Frax314#7488 I guess this seals it. [17-Mar-21 07:21 PM] Raov#2531 oh [17-Mar-21 07:21 PM] Raov#2531 fuck [17-Mar-21 07:21 PM] Raov#2531 yes [17-Mar-21 07:21 PM] Raov#2531 legal action time [17-Mar-21 07:21 PM] Raov#2531 not yet ik [17-Mar-21 07:22 PM] Raov#2531 and not even known if there will in fact be a way to legally attack him [17-Mar-21 07:23 PM] Frax314#7488 This group chat is (metaphorically?) over. We did absolutely everything now. Thank all of you for the support, help and time. [17-Mar-21 07:23 PM] Raov#2531 ayo hold up [17-Mar-21 07:23 PM] Raov#2531 the info [17-Mar-21 07:23 PM] Raov#2531 i got [17-Mar-21 07:23 PM] Frax314#7488 **No.** [17-Mar-21 07:23 PM] Raov#2531 at least identifyable info [17-Mar-21 07:23 PM] Raov#2531 nothing private like passwords [17-Mar-21 07:23 PM] Frax314#7488 That never happened xD [17-Mar-21 07:23 PM] Raov#2531 that happened [17-Mar-21 07:25 PM] Frax314#7488 Funny how this ended at the eve of TAG2's release. Keep on dooming, those who'll play it, sometimes the official can be better than the fanmade, hehe [17-Mar-21 07:32 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Raov you have a doxxing fetish my nigga? [17-Mar-21 07:32 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Chill. [17-Mar-21 07:32 PM] Raov#2531 bro tf [17-Mar-21 07:32 PM] Raov#2531 i just dont want my work to go unused [17-Mar-21 07:32 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 we won't use any private information [17-Mar-21 07:32 PM] Raov#2531 ill give it if needed for legal action [17-Mar-21 07:33 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 are you sure we are large scale enough to help in legal action anyways {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/821783215504621568/y.png [17-Mar-21 07:33 PM] Raov#2531 might be [17-Mar-21 08:05 PM] polyzium#0481 Looking forward to the aftermath [17-Mar-21 08:05 PM] polyzium#0481 Even tho I couldn't do jack shit cuz army [17-Mar-21 08:07 PM] shotfan#6872 WHAT THE FUCK [17-Mar-21 08:07 PM] Raov#2531 ? [17-Mar-21 08:07 PM] shotfan#6872 They censored your post? [17-Mar-21 08:07 PM] Raov#2531 Bruh [17-Mar-21 08:08 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh wait [17-Mar-21 08:08 PM] shotfan#6872 Sorry I freaked out [17-Mar-21 08:08 PM] shotfan#6872 Ah so [17-Mar-21 08:09 PM] shotfan#6872 Closed post and ZDF staff relayed the info to Bethesda? [17-Mar-21 08:09 PM] shotfan#6872 Sounds... decent. [17-Mar-21 08:09 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~if they did so in the first place~~ [17-Mar-21 08:11 PM] polyzium#0481 I guess? [17-Mar-21 08:11 PM] polyzium#0481 But they removed the thread for sure [17-Mar-21 08:11 PM] polyzium#0481 Visiting the url results in "you are not authorized to view the forum" [17-Mar-21 08:12 PM] shotfan#6872 WHAT [17-Mar-21 08:12 PM] shotfan#6872 Let me check it [17-Mar-21 08:13 PM] shotfan#6872 So [17-Mar-21 08:13 PM] shotfan#6872 WHAT THE FUCK [17-Mar-21 08:13 PM] shotfan#6872 This is not good. [17-Mar-21 08:14 PM] shotfan#6872 The excuse they gave is bullshit. [17-Mar-21 08:14 PM] shotfan#6872 THIS FUCKING POST IS THE LITERAL ANTIPROMOTION OF LISTER [17-Mar-21 08:14 PM] shotfan#6872 This shit smells worse than a elephant dump. [17-Mar-21 08:15 PM] shotfan#6872 What is the proof they contacted Bethesda at all? [17-Mar-21 08:15 PM] shotfan#6872 They can say anything to make us fuck off. [17-Mar-21 08:15 PM] shotfan#6872 This is not decent at all. [17-Mar-21 08:18 PM] Frax314#7488 Welcome to ZDF [17-Mar-21 08:18 PM] Frax314#7488 I did not say they weren't dumbasses [17-Mar-21 08:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Anyway, as a reference you may get... put your glasses on, nothing will be wrong [17-Mar-21 08:30 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~GRIFFITH~~ [17-Mar-21 08:30 PM] shotfan#6872 Seriously, I want to see proof of contacting Bethesda. [17-Mar-21 08:41 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 the brazil group rn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRLEw3INDrw {Embed} Alex Matsunaga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRLEw3INDrw End of Golden Wind (Fine Della Vento Aureo)-Jojo’s Bizarre Adventur... By Yugo Kanno https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/wdA5IaEx67X3M2HrzOsmNubNYCtaRse6k-2XWzJPs0o/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/VRLEw3INDrw/maxresdefault.jpg [17-Mar-21 08:44 PM] Frax314#7488 Somehow I feel it would not be fine asking... also, I believe she will not reply further. [17-Mar-21 08:49 PM] shotfan#6872 What would not be fine, huh? [17-Mar-21 08:49 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not trust her. [17-Mar-21 08:49 PM] shotfan#6872 You do not fucking bury public warnings like that. [17-Mar-21 10:58 PM] Frax314#7488 Agreed. [17-Mar-21 10:58 PM] Frax314#7488 But that be ZDF. [18-Mar-21 01:11 AM] shotfan#6872 Anyone else that we could warn that does not have head up their ass? [18-Mar-21 01:13 AM] Frax314#7488 No. It really is over. [18-Mar-21 01:14 AM] shotfan#6872 I do not think so. [18-Mar-21 01:15 AM] Frax314#7488 The re is only ModDB. [18-Mar-21 01:15 AM] Frax314#7488 But we have no way for it. [18-Mar-21 01:15 AM] shotfan#6872 You could nag Rachael... unless you do not want to speak to her at all - for that I would not blame you. [18-Mar-21 01:15 AM] shotfan#6872 What re? [18-Mar-21 01:16 AM] Frax314#7488 I meant there [18-Mar-21 01:17 AM] Frax314#7488 Also, Rachaek is just unquestionable. She is very self-righterous, I wouldn't want to piss her off any mote [18-Mar-21 01:17 AM] Frax314#7488 I gtg [18-Mar-21 01:17 AM] shotfan#6872 Because what, she bans you? [18-Mar-21 01:18 AM] shotfan#6872 That would just show her true colours. [18-Mar-21 01:18 AM] Frax314#7488 It would be wasted breath and frustration mote like. [18-Mar-21 01:18 AM] Frax314#7488 And if I expose her we're just helping Li$ter. [18-Mar-21 01:19 AM] shotfan#6872 She can stick her righteousness in the nether regions. [18-Mar-21 01:19 AM] shotfan#6872 What? [18-Mar-21 01:19 AM] shotfan#6872 How do we help him by exposing her? [18-Mar-21 03:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 WAIT NO I WANNA SHOW MY ART FIRST BEFORE WE IMPLODE [18-Mar-21 03:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I did this Rampancy artpiece :D {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/821896037366628352/20210315_235421.jpg [18-Mar-21 03:01 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I drew a space pope {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/821896086817079316/20210307_004355.jpg [18-Mar-21 09:25 AM] polyzium#0481 Did I spot the SWWM Demolitionist? [18-Mar-21 09:40 AM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yes [18-Mar-21 10:09 AM] Frax314#7488 Expose Rachel = GZDoom loses credibility = Listeronum gets a chance to strike [18-Mar-21 10:10 AM] Frax314#7488 also cool space pope bulalo [18-Mar-21 12:41 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yay :D [18-Mar-21 12:41 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 thanks [18-Mar-21 12:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 doubt anyone but the more conservative Doomers would really care tbh [18-Mar-21 12:42 PM] Frax314#7488 Still, I'd rather not upset everything more. [18-Mar-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yeah [18-Mar-21 12:43 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 still better to not let any personal grudges jeopardize the plan [18-Mar-21 02:12 PM] shotfan#6872 That is farfetched conclusion to make. [18-Mar-21 02:12 PM] shotfan#6872 Just because one of Graf's associates behaves like an asshole does not mean their sourceport is ass as well. [18-Mar-21 02:13 PM] shotfan#6872 Especially since in the assholery contest, there can be only one winner... [18-Mar-21 02:13 PM] Frax314#7488 Alright, then let me elaborate. [18-Mar-21 02:13 PM] Frax314#7488 She has expressed this kind of "no such thing as bad publicity" always, everywhere [18-Mar-21 02:13 PM] Frax314#7488 And Graf likely agrees with her if he's kept her with him so long [18-Mar-21 02:14 PM] Frax314#7488 There is nothing we can do aganist that word of hers. [18-Mar-21 02:14 PM] Frax314#7488 She wants to fight that way, we'll let her, but she better be prepared for possible disadvantages. [18-Mar-21 02:15 PM] Frax314#7488 If you did not understand already, GZDoom is pretty much her whole life when it's on the line. [18-Mar-21 02:15 PM] shotfan#6872 I have not seen her behave the way you describe, but then again, I am heardly visiting ZDF nowadays. [18-Mar-21 02:15 PM] shotfan#6872 No I did not. [18-Mar-21 02:15 PM] shotfan#6872 Seems like Lothar's syndrome again. [18-Mar-21 02:15 PM] Frax314#7488 She is 24h on the forums and Discord [18-Mar-21 02:16 PM] Frax314#7488 She's as obsessed with Doom as Li$ter, just another way [18-Mar-21 02:16 PM] shotfan#6872 People investing too much of themselves into an unpaid project. [18-Mar-21 02:16 PM] shotfan#6872 That changes the view on the situation, yes. [18-Mar-21 02:16 PM] Frax314#7488 If someone posts a meme in ZDF Discord's meme channel minimally referencing Trump she throws a fit and deletes it [18-Mar-21 02:16 PM] shotfan#6872 She might be behaving irrationally out of fear of her project becoming irrelevant. [18-Mar-21 02:16 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah but [18-Mar-21 02:16 PM] shotfan#6872 That is politics [18-Mar-21 02:17 PM] Frax314#7488 EXACTLY. [18-Mar-21 02:17 PM] shotfan#6872 And she is a known LGBT advocate [18-Mar-21 02:17 PM] shotfan#6872 Different thing than sourceport development drama, right? [18-Mar-21 02:17 PM] Frax314#7488 Once she starts doing that kind of stuff with source ports, then you know she's really gone. [18-Mar-21 02:17 PM] shotfan#6872 No shit. [18-Mar-21 02:17 PM] shotfan#6872 We are actually trying to HELP her. [18-Mar-21 02:18 PM] Frax314#7488 So let's leave her, if she wanna continue behave in this stupid way, she will. Good riddance if that fails, community was rotten from the start. Period. [18-Mar-21 02:18 PM] shotfan#6872 Is she that misguided? [18-Mar-21 02:18 PM] Frax314#7488 She's a twitter karen as I said, really unstable. Many on ZDF are like her [18-Mar-21 02:19 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh no Twitter regular [18-Mar-21 02:19 PM] Frax314#7488 y e p [18-Mar-21 02:19 PM] shotfan#6872 Well fuck that [18-Mar-21 02:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Now you get what type she is [18-Mar-21 02:19 PM] shotfan#6872 What are the other options left? [18-Mar-21 02:19 PM] shotfan#6872 What is the problem with Moddb? [18-Mar-21 02:20 PM] Frax314#7488 Because posting a random rant about Listeronum as an article there will do no good -- in fact, it's the one context where Rachael would be right, knowing ModDBlets. [18-Mar-21 02:20 PM] shotfan#6872 You mean, it would backfire into bolstering popularity for Listeronum? [18-Mar-21 02:21 PM] Frax314#7488 It's just not a part of the community possible to or even worth save. [18-Mar-21 02:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Well yeah, that site has other things than just Doom. [18-Mar-21 02:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Alright then... the nuclear option. What about contacting Mircrosoft/Zenimax/Bethesda/id directly? [18-Mar-21 02:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Or even Romero, lol [18-Mar-21 02:22 PM] Frax314#7488 We're letting the big boys do it, if what Rachael said is true. [18-Mar-21 02:22 PM] shotfan#6872 I do not fucking trust her word. [18-Mar-21 02:22 PM] Frax314#7488 Our nuclear option is, post-release, contacting Romero. You know how much of a rock star he is. [18-Mar-21 02:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Everybody's gonna follow him. [18-Mar-21 02:23 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah, and actually active in the community. [18-Mar-21 02:23 PM] Frax314#7488 But post-release as I said. [18-Mar-21 02:23 PM] shotfan#6872 So we are awaiting Lister's move now? [18-Mar-21 02:23 PM] Frax314#7488 Pretty much. [18-Mar-21 02:24 PM] Frax314#7488 So keep an eye on Romero's Discord. [18-Mar-21 02:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 haha [18-Mar-21 02:24 PM] shotfan#6872 Very well then. [18-Mar-21 02:24 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I will be your guy [18-Mar-21 02:24 PM] shotfan#6872 HERE WE GO [18-Mar-21 02:24 PM] Frax314#7488 lmao [18-Mar-21 02:24 PM] shotfan#6872 You will be the update guy now [18-Mar-21 02:25 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 not *exactly* [18-Mar-21 02:25 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 because unless I start shit myself no one will talk about Listeronum [18-Mar-21 02:25 PM] shotfan#6872 I mean [18-Mar-21 02:25 PM] shotfan#6872 Lurk in the shadows [18-Mar-21 02:25 PM] shotfan#6872 Like ~~an assassin~~ a spy [18-Mar-21 02:26 PM] Frax314#7488 And watch over Lothar. Seriously. [18-Mar-21 02:26 PM] shotfan#6872 Starting shit can begin once Lister does his demented move. [18-Mar-21 02:26 PM] shotfan#6872 That is Zero's job. [18-Mar-21 02:26 PM] shotfan#6872 I am not talking to Lothar anymore. [18-Mar-21 02:26 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yeah [18-Mar-21 02:26 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 atm Lothar's just kinda vibing in Romero's Discord [18-Mar-21 02:26 PM] shotfan#6872 I had said everything I had for him. [18-Mar-21 02:27 PM] Frax314#7488 I am fairly positive Listeronum will hit not-this-month at this point however. [18-Mar-21 02:27 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 honestly we shouldn't be the ones to judge his personal pipe dream of a Brutal Hexen TC What we *should* be the judges of is how much he's willing to shill this good for nothing Lister cunt [18-Mar-21 02:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Also if anything we did one truly relevant thing during this time: shatter Lister's ModDBlet dreams via Mark :V [18-Mar-21 02:28 PM] shotfan#6872 There must be at least a dozen different Brutal Hexen projects around lmao [18-Mar-21 02:28 PM] Frax314#7488 accurate [18-Mar-21 02:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 remember when I said I wanted no part in this [18-Mar-21 02:28 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 change that [18-Mar-21 02:28 PM] shotfan#6872 Oh hi Mark [18-Mar-21 02:28 PM] Frax314#7488 Li$ter *really* liked Brutal Doom and Mark [18-Mar-21 02:28 PM] Fluffy#5319 Does anyone know a person named petuno? [18-Mar-21 02:28 PM] shotfan#6872 Imagine being such an awful person that the Brazilian brutalist appears based [18-Mar-21 02:28 PM] Frax314#7488 So this is funny as shit [18-Mar-21 02:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I will personally kick these Russian manchildren's shins in to humble them [18-Mar-21 02:29 PM] Frax314#7488 Nope [18-Mar-21 02:29 PM] Fluffy#5319 oh ok [18-Mar-21 02:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Perturabo? The petulant manchild? [18-Mar-21 02:29 PM] shotfan#6872 nay [18-Mar-21 02:29 PM] Fluffy#5319 He uploaded lsd on tspg lol [18-Mar-21 02:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 uh [18-Mar-21 02:29 PM] Fluffy#5319 Nobody has noticed yet [18-Mar-21 02:29 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 not sure how to react to that [18-Mar-21 02:29 PM] Frax314#7488 FUCKING DELETE IT [18-Mar-21 02:30 PM] Frax314#7488 That's how [18-Mar-21 02:30 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~is that a WH40K reference~~ [18-Mar-21 02:30 PM] shotfan#6872 EXTERMINATUS [18-Mar-21 02:30 PM] Fluffy#5319 Man how many times has this happened lol [18-Mar-21 02:30 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/822069493609005096/You_may_not_have_parents_but_at_least_you_got__4427f3dea2c6ba880479abe5d36c9b4f.png [18-Mar-21 02:30 PM] Fluffy#5319 It's like the 999th time [18-Mar-21 02:30 PM] Frax314#7488 All of Mark's faults, in the end, were stupidity. Li$ter is ouright calculating evil [18-Mar-21 02:31 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~as often as Ork Waaaaghs! happened~~ [18-Mar-21 02:31 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah Mark actually became a little less retarded. A little [18-Mar-21 02:32 PM] shotfan#6872 So it is the lurking time again. [18-Mar-21 02:32 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yeah [18-Mar-21 02:33 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 *proceeds to ask John about the idea of a paid sourceport* [18-Mar-21 02:35 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~can you just no~~ [18-Mar-21 02:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 nah it wasn't specific [18-Mar-21 02:35 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I just asked "what if paid sourceport haha" [18-Mar-21 02:36 PM] Frax314#7488 d o n t [18-Mar-21 02:36 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I didn't name anyone [18-Mar-21 02:36 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 don't worry it'll be *fiiiiiine* [18-Mar-21 02:39 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~can you mute yourself just to be safe~~ [18-Mar-21 02:40 PM] Frax314#7488 Lmao [18-Mar-21 02:40 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 what is going on here {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/822072059022540810/the_creature_stares_at_you.jpg [18-Mar-21 02:42 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 better yet I'll just say: `"Я сообщил ваш домашний адрес и личные данные вашим местным полицейским из-за вашего несогласия с истинами Кремля и, следовательно, президента России. Прошу прощения, если это доставит вам неудобства в следующие дни"` [18-Mar-21 02:44 PM] shotfan#6872 Zero [18-Mar-21 02:44 PM] shotfan#6872 You will be watching Lothar [18-Mar-21 02:44 PM] shotfan#6872 Do not try to refuse [18-Mar-21 02:44 PM] shotfan#6872 I have higher Speech skill than you [18-Mar-21 02:44 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Whoa whoa, you're sending me on a spy ops? [18-Mar-21 02:45 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Can't refuse? What is this, a fallout 4 quest? [18-Mar-21 02:45 PM] shotfan#6872 Just sit around in Schism and pretend you are fine with Lothar's mischief. [18-Mar-21 02:45 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [18-Mar-21 02:45 PM] shotfan#6872 Ah yeah [18-Mar-21 02:45 PM] shotfan#6872 What does that mean? [18-Mar-21 02:46 PM] Frax314#7488 Lulz [18-Mar-21 02:46 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/822073402868498432/putin_laughing.jpg [18-Mar-21 02:46 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Care to update me real quick? [18-Mar-21 02:46 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Didn't we stop progress. [18-Mar-21 02:46 PM] Frax314#7488 We did, I clarified a few things [18-Mar-21 02:47 PM] Raov#2531 "I have relayed your home address and identifying data to local authorities for disagreeing with Kremlin, and thus, Putin's truths and beliefs. I am sorry if this brings you any inconvenience for the next couple of days." [18-Mar-21 02:47 PM] Frax314#7488 Just keep an eye out, that's all [18-Mar-21 02:48 PM] shotfan#6872 Last I checked, Lister was not a friend of Putin... [18-Mar-21 02:48 PM] Raov#2531 me neither tbh [18-Mar-21 02:48 PM] shotfan#6872 *if you know what I mean* [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] Raov#2531 *gets fucking raided* [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ***oh fuck*** [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yes, the final solution [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] shotfan#6872 ~~~buy Raid Shadow Legends~~ [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 we shall get him executed [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 over the sourceport [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 yes [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 the ultimate plan [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] Raov#2531 yeah we can get him down under being against putin [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I don't think Putin will do anything to lister.. [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] Raov#2531 fuckin hell yall geniuses [18-Mar-21 02:49 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 UNLESS HE'S GAY [18-Mar-21 02:50 PM] shotfan#6872 Truly a foolproof plan [18-Mar-21 02:50 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 So the master plan would be to get him out of the closet [18-Mar-21 02:50 PM] Frax314#7488 Lmfao [18-Mar-21 02:50 PM] shotfan#6872 Is he a furry too [18-Mar-21 02:51 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I mean he is a complete animal [18-Mar-21 02:51 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 not sure if that applies for the term. [18-Mar-21 02:51 PM] Raov#2531 imagine a thicc ass 40 year old man coming out as a fucking furry [18-Mar-21 02:51 PM] shotfan#6872 MIDNIGHT ANIMAL [18-Mar-21 02:51 PM] Raov#2531 the peak of cringe [18-Mar-21 02:51 PM] shotfan#6872 also known as "Welcome to Gulag" [18-Mar-21 02:51 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 oh no don't remind me of that trainwreck [18-Mar-21 02:51 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Sonichu the second. [18-Mar-21 02:52 PM] Raov#2531 soni- bruh i dont know anyone in the doom community [18-Mar-21 02:52 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 What? [18-Mar-21 02:52 PM] shotfan#6872 Truly a summer child you are. [18-Mar-21 02:52 PM] Raov#2531 what the fuck {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/822074979146530876/unknown.png [18-Mar-21 02:52 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 OH HAHAHAHAH [18-Mar-21 02:52 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 HE DOESNT KNOW SONICHU [18-Mar-21 02:52 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 HOLY SHIT [18-Mar-21 02:52 PM] Raov#2531 yes i dont [18-Mar-21 02:52 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 YOU ARE IN FOR A RIDE [18-Mar-21 02:52 PM] Raov#2531 well god motherfuckin damn bring it on [18-Mar-21 02:53 PM] Frax314#7488 H E D O E S N T K N O W [18-Mar-21 02:53 PM] Raov#2531 yes i dont know [18-Mar-21 02:53 PM] Raov#2531 i have been under a russian rock until 2018 [18-Mar-21 02:53 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IPtLvxO8hs&t=1184s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFOIauPQ5XI https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLABqEYq6H3vpCmsmyUnHnfMOeAnjBdSNm {Embed} Fredrik Knudsen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IPtLvxO8hs&start=1184s Sonichu and Christian Weston Chandler (CWC) — Down the Rabbit Hole Twitter: https://twitter.com/FredInTheKnud Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/fredrikknudsen Since there are two videos, Down the Rabbit Hole is now technically a series! This episode is about Christian Weston Chandler, who became infamous online when he was discovered by online forums. I almost didn't do this one because I know how controversi... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/p4XcAE8I5bEceISPFo9Jjt1Du2WNJFTiUgjqp04j36A/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/5IPtLvxO8hs/maxresdefault.jpg {Embed} Ben Saint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFOIauPQ5XI Sonichu 101: A CWC Lecture Years of studying the Sonichu comics and their creator, Christine Weston Chandler (formerly Christian) have culminated in this filmed lecture in which I delve into the story of the comics, and through that lens, give a beginner's guide to the artist's personal history and possible creative intent. My comics: http://saintcomix.com/ Patreon: http... https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/08CP2wLXNHUpC1F62fhLVDhsuP2Sxd06uWjsG-49WQA/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/vFOIauPQ5XI/hqdefault.jpg {Embed} https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLABqEYq6H3vpCmsmyUnHnfMOeAnjBdSNm Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/XFyvcDNsQbcFHZi-t_nOiIatEgxUKsGV1I6hrPSrnEU/%3Fsqp%3D-oaymwEWCKgBEF5IWvKriqkDCQgBFQAAiEIYAQ%3D%3D%26rs%3DAOn4CLDujj-UpuapIhdhBE_2u9Sa4OrGDA%26days_since_epoch%3D18704/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/zgxj_0xPleg/hqdefault.jpg [18-Mar-21 02:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Im dyin don't If you value your sanity [18-Mar-21 02:53 PM] Raov#2531 only then have i ventured into the depths that is the internet as a whole [18-Mar-21 02:53 PM] shotfan#6872 SUCH INNOCENT IGNORANCE [18-Mar-21 02:53 PM] Raov#2531 okay this design is familiar [18-Mar-21 02:53 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh my god lmao a whole ass encyclopedia [18-Mar-21 02:54 PM] Raov#2531 what [18-Mar-21 02:54 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 You haven't been under a rock, you've been next to the fucking earth's core. [18-Mar-21 02:54 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 you can still turn back now [18-Mar-21 02:54 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 choose [18-Mar-21 02:54 PM] shotfan#6872 What if [18-Mar-21 02:54 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 your sanity or curiosity [18-Mar-21 02:54 PM] shotfan#6872 Raov is living on an asteroid? [18-Mar-21 02:54 PM] shotfan#6872 Then, he would be both over and under a rock at the same time. [18-Mar-21 02:55 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Considering his doxxing fetish, you would mean a Satellite. [18-Mar-21 02:55 PM] shotfan#6872 PICK BLUEPILL OR REDPILL [18-Mar-21 02:55 PM] Frax314#7488 We're taking so much piss rn there's more of that than water in our bodies [18-Mar-21 02:55 PM] shotfan#6872 bruh [18-Mar-21 02:56 PM] shotfan#6872 this is *brazil* [18-Mar-21 02:56 PM] shotfan#6872 it is only natural [18-Mar-21 02:57 PM] Raov#2531 oh you mf bet {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/822076269424017408/unknown.png [18-Mar-21 02:58 PM] Raov#2531 i got this shit catalogued {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/822076387997122581/unknown.png [18-Mar-21 02:58 PM] Frax314#7488 Wtf [18-Mar-21 02:58 PM] Frax314#7488 This boy has the whole world in his hard disk [18-Mar-21 02:58 PM] Raov#2531 lol [18-Mar-21 02:58 PM] Raov#2531 more like a 3000km swath [18-Mar-21 02:59 PM] Raov#2531 here ya go {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/822076653692780544/FY3B_2021-03-14_12-10-51.cadu-rgb-corrected.jpg [18-Mar-21 02:59 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Raov after doxxing a starving ethiopian child "to keep it till it gets useful" {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/822076691982581790/nothing_personnel.jpg [18-Mar-21 02:59 PM] Raov#2531 sdfjklsdfjklfsdjklsdfjklsdf lmao [18-Mar-21 02:59 PM] Raov#2531 lister can be compared to one tho [18-Mar-21 05:18 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 guys [18-Mar-21 05:18 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so the Ancient Gods Part Two DLC dropped [18-Mar-21 05:18 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 NO [18-Mar-21 05:18 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 DO NOT SPOIL [18-Mar-21 05:18 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 but yes [18-Mar-21 05:18 PM] KENSUKE21#1071 Am downloading it rn [20-Mar-21 05:08 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 so uh [20-Mar-21 05:08 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 we only got 11 days left till Listeronum's supposed release date grace period is up [20-Mar-21 05:11 PM] Frax314#7488 Yea I think it's gonna be later [20-Mar-21 05:15 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/822835788898107493/Screenshot_2021-03-20-16-13-44.png [20-Mar-21 05:15 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 kek [20-Mar-21 05:34 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 he killed him [20-Mar-21 05:58 PM] Frax314#7488 Murder [20-Mar-21 05:59 PM] Frax314#7488 This gives me hope for Grey Wolf then [20-Mar-21 05:59 PM] Frax314#7488 That was a pretty based comeback [20-Mar-21 05:59 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Hope? [20-Mar-21 05:59 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Wolf was never on anyone's side. [20-Mar-21 05:59 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I would know since he's an absolute bro of mine. [20-Mar-21 06:00 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Besides, he banned Lister before. [20-Mar-21 06:00 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 The only reason Lister is back on the server is because of his constant bitching to wolf. [20-Mar-21 06:00 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 So he just warned him and gave him a chance. [20-Mar-21 06:04 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 @Frax314 well then, I just told him about this group and he wants in [20-Mar-21 06:04 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Wolf Doom centrist conf1rmed [20-Mar-21 06:04 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 That was quick. [20-Mar-21 06:06 PM] Frax314#7488 w h y t h o [20-Mar-21 06:06 PM] Frax314#7488 I gotta do some stuff, brb, I'd rather you brief to him what we did [20-Mar-21 06:07 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but someone's gotta leave then [20-Mar-21 06:08 PM] Frax314#7488 Dont anybody move in or out till im back D:< [20-Mar-21 06:08 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 ... [20-Mar-21 06:08 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 I'll go [20-Mar-21 06:08 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 but only cus I can use this setup [20-Mar-21 06:08 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBNCsf3p8L4 {Embed} AESTHETIC WAVES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBNCsf3p8L4 DOOM Eternal Ancient Gods Part Two OST: End Credits Music (Full Sou... DOOM Eternal Ancient Gods Part 2 Ending End Credits Soundtrack Song DOOM Eternal Ancient Gods Part Two (Official OST Playlist) https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxKgOL62ZcRLKVzG1VtYnxsoI71kycL-z Music Composed by Andrew Hulshult and David Levy https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/C1A3k-x7dt8bPkiDR6BHBAkweTNVc4yaefex50buYOs/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/CBNCsf3p8L4/maxresdefault.jpg [20-Mar-21 06:08 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 bye [20-Mar-21 06:09 PM] Sinigang the Philippine Soup#1272 Removed a recipient. [20-Mar-21 06:09 PM] Frax314#7488 Bruhh i just said- [20-Mar-21 06:09 PM] Frax314#7488 Oh whatever lol [20-Mar-21 06:09 PM] Frax314#7488 @YourpalZ3R0 let Grey Wolf in [20-Mar-21 07:31 PM] polyzium#0481 Good evening [20-Mar-21 07:31 PM] Raov#2531 Evening [20-Mar-21 07:31 PM] polyzium#0481 So... what's the aftermath? Unknown? [20-Mar-21 07:32 PM] Raov#2531 Even I don't understand it tbh [20-Mar-21 07:32 PM] Raov#2531 We got some traction [20-Mar-21 07:32 PM] Raov#2531 But nothing really groundbreaking other than doomkids post [20-Mar-21 07:44 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 I'm a bit busy at the moment so let him check around. [20-Mar-21 07:45 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Added a recipient. [20-Mar-21 07:46 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 wait wtf [20-Mar-21 07:47 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 why did someone else leave for me [20-Mar-21 07:47 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 now I feel guilty [20-Mar-21 07:47 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 LIFE IS BASED ON THE DEATH OF OTHERS [20-Mar-21 07:48 PM] Frax314#7488 Because fucking Discord has a ten people group chat restriction [20-Mar-21 07:48 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 It's the Miura situation all over again [20-Mar-21 07:48 PM] Frax314#7488 I'll make a server when I have time [20-Mar-21 07:49 PM] Frax314#7488 I like you already lmao :D [20-Mar-21 07:49 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Not sure why you haven't already. [20-Mar-21 07:49 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Its easy business. [20-Mar-21 07:49 PM] Frax314#7488 Ik [20-Mar-21 07:49 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 kek [20-Mar-21 07:49 PM] Frax314#7488 But im lazy as fuck [20-Mar-21 07:49 PM] Frax314#7488 Brb [20-Mar-21 08:02 PM] Raov#2531 life is based [20-Mar-21 08:02 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 That's the spirit broski. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/822877884292792400/unknown.png [20-Mar-21 09:14 PM] shotfan#6872 Ohhhh [20-Mar-21 09:15 PM] shotfan#6872 Good day everyone. [20-Mar-21 09:15 PM] shotfan#6872 Good day Wolf. [20-Mar-21 09:15 PM] shotfan#6872 I suppose that Zero informed you of the situation? [20-Mar-21 09:16 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 isn't that a pretty old situation though [20-Mar-21 09:16 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 the whole schism thing and Lister's bullshit [20-Mar-21 09:16 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 unless you're talking about something else [20-Mar-21 09:16 PM] shotfan#6872 Still ongoing. [20-Mar-21 09:17 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 yeah figures [20-Mar-21 09:17 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 btw [20-Mar-21 09:17 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 he just can't help it {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/822896595015434261/f1d6d46730b71473ff04edaf5c85cbee.png [20-Mar-21 09:17 PM] shotfan#6872 Yeah? [20-Mar-21 09:17 PM] shotfan#6872 Just read that. [20-Mar-21 09:17 PM] shotfan#6872 So yeah, we need to keep him on short leash. [20-Mar-21 09:17 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 what a sad uninteresting life he's living [20-Mar-21 09:17 PM] shotfan#6872 I mean [20-Mar-21 09:17 PM] shotfan#6872 He is a Russian scammer [20-Mar-21 09:18 PM] shotfan#6872 So [20-Mar-21 09:18 PM] shotfan#6872 Anyways, he probably already probed our server with watchbots. [20-Mar-21 09:18 PM] shotfan#6872 His group does raids on anyone that offend them. [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] shotfan#6872 And he knows me and Zero from the Schism server. [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] Raov#2531 maybe we should out-scam him then? [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 how [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] Raov#2531 well [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] shotfan#6872 So if we ban him, we can expect retaliation. [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] Raov#2531 somehow [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 penis enlargement pills? [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] Raov#2531 lmao [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] Grey_Wolf#3646 he would probably buy [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] shotfan#6872 Glad to see you there, hehe [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] shotfan#6872 Just a little BTW. [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] Raov#2531 nah make a investment platform that gives insane payouts but at one point go scam [20-Mar-21 09:19 PM] shotfan#6872 So yeah [20-Mar-21 09:20 PM] Raov#2531 hes fuckin addicted to gambling [20-Mar-21 09:20 PM] shotfan#6872 Currently, we are awaiting the release of Listeronum or whatever the fuck it is called. [20-Mar-21 09:20 PM] Raov#2531 ye youre right [20-Mar-21 09:20 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Nah, Lister is the type of fella to buy Penis shrinking pills so he can tell people that his dick was too big for work. [20-Mar-21 09:20 PM] shotfan#6872 We tried to reach out to ZDF and warn them, but Rachael is a colossal twat. [20-Mar-21 09:21 PM] Raov#2531 and since we're kinda meming now [20-Mar-21 09:21 PM] Raov#2531 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/815606508410109992/zandrococks.mp4 {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786555353407029270/815606508410109992/zandrococks.mp4 [20-Mar-21 09:21 PM] Raov#2531 imma bring this up [20-Mar-21 09:21 PM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Shameless self-shilling huh, my style. [20-Mar-21 09:21 PM] shotfan#6872 Only Doomkid from Doomworld elected to make the topic related to Lister's dealings. [20-Mar-21 09:22 PM] shotfan#6872 So yeah, now we are waiting what Lister does, and then it is nagging Romero time. [20-Mar-21 09:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Also [20-Mar-21 09:22 PM] shotfan#6872 Why Bulalo left? [20-Mar-21 09:22 PM] Raov#2531 made space for wolf [20-Mar-21 09:23 PM] Raov#2531 we should make a server already [20-Mar-21 09:23 PM] shotfan#6872 But we need a Romero's Games insider? [20-Mar-21 10:14 PM] Frax314#7488 I still have him in my PMs ofc [20-Mar-21 10:14 PM] Frax314#7488 And he'll update us [20-Mar-21 10:15 PM] Frax314#7488 Lemme make the server now. DON'T leave this group chat as we still have the important messages and pins [20-Mar-21 10:18 PM] Frax314#7488 https://discord.gg/zJsUU3bh [20-Mar-21 10:19 PM] Frax314#7488 Obligatory @everyone :V [01-Oct-21 01:33 AM] YourpalZ3R0#7671 Removed a recipient. ============================================================== Exported 6,499 message(s) ==============================================================